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Old Jun 6, 2011, 01:06 PM   #31
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Finally something actually useful to me: the split keyboard.

And no freakin' cable. Welcome to 2011, Apple.
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Old Jun 6, 2011, 01:06 PM   #32
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Over the Air syncing...





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Now, when you take the phone out of the box, you just see "Welcome" instead of a prompt to tether it. "You can now setup and activate your device right on the device and you are ready to go. It's that easy."
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And those updates are delta updates, so again you're just getting what's changed -- which should put less of a hurting on your newly capped data plan.

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Old Jun 6, 2011, 01:07 PM   #33
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http://www.comscore.com/Press_Events..._Market_Share\

I see what Apple did there. They threw in iPad and, BAM everyones numbers drop, and theirs goes up.

Compare tablets with tablets and phones to phones.
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http://www.comscore.com/Press_Events..._Market_Share\

I see what Apple did there. They threw in iPad and, BAM everyones numbers drop, and theirs goes up.
It's actually even higher now for Android, up to 36.4%.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/06/c...subscribers-a/
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Yup, I just didn't know where to find the latest but that will work for the sake of the argument.
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Old Jun 6, 2011, 01:10 PM   #36
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http://www.comscore.com/Press_Events..._Market_Share\

I see what Apple did there. They threw in iPad and, BAM everyones numbers drop, and theirs goes up.

Compare tablets with tablets and phones to phones.
Mobile OS, is Mobile OS. Period.
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http://www.comscore.com/Press_Events..._Market_Share\

I see what Apple did there. They threw in iPad and, BAM everyones numbers drop, and theirs goes up.

Compare tablets with tablets and phones to phones.
No different when Microsoft throws in enterprise software into the overall market numbers to downgrade the loss of their base in home computing.

All companies do it because Wall Street analysts are so doped up on coke and hookers...
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Old Jun 6, 2011, 01:11 PM   #38
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Mobile OS, is Mobile OS. Period.
Yeah, if you count iPhone and iPad they are the same OS though, everyone says they aren't.

Can't fight it man. You've fallen into their trap.
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Old Jun 6, 2011, 01:12 PM   #39
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Yeah, if you count iPhone and iPad they are the same OS

Can't fight it man.
and ipod touch
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Old Jun 6, 2011, 01:13 PM   #40
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Mobile OS, is Mobile OS. Period.
Unfortunately for the customers, the devices are not the same (and, ergo, the customer experience is not the same), so having the same experience on both is limiting (to the customer, not Apple's bottom line). I'm still hoping Apple will do something about this, but it's looking more and more they won't.
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Old Jun 6, 2011, 01:14 PM   #42
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Yeah, if you count iPhone and iPad they are the same OS though, everyone says they aren't.

Can't fight it man. You've fallen into their trap.
This isn't news, he's never gotten out of their trap
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Yeah, if you count iPhone and iPad they are the same OS though, everyone says they aren't.

Can't fight it man. You've fallen into their trap.
What are you talking about. Everyone says iPad is "just a big iPhone". Lay down the pipe man.
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What are you talking about. Everyone says iPad is "just a big iPhone". Lay down the pipe man.
Do you believe that too?
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Finally. Messenge services on my iPad.
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Yeah, if you count iPhone and iPad they are the same OS though, everyone says they aren't.

Can't fight it man. You've fallen into their trap.
The OS between iPhone, iPad and iPod are virtually the same, though not identical given the differing hardware found on each.

I thought Core Image was already in iOS? I hope they add more Quartz functionality (*cough* PDFDocument, PDFPage and annotations *cough*).
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Do you believe that too?
Anyone who has an iPad KNOWS it's not. Same OS, but scalable for different devices.
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The lack of facebook integration is pretty crappy.

And what's up with their keyboard? why is it always in uppercase
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I'm just happy with the new notfications (although I don't see a way to delete them en masse) and the OTA updates and wireless iTunes sync.

iCloud time!!!
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Anyone who has an iPad KNOWS it's not. Same OS, but scalable for different devices.
No, not different devices, one device. All they did was bump up the resolution.
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The lack of facebook integration is pretty crappy.

And what's up with their keyboard? why is it always in uppercase
Because the keyboard assumes you want to capitalize the first letter of a sentence. It goes to lower case after the first letter is typed.

These are the comments you get from a non iOS user.
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Still prefer my LockInfo compared to the new system.
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Anyone who has an iPad KNOWS it's not. Same OS, but scalable for different devices.
So why do you bring it up? Only when it helps your argument?
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Because the keyboard assumes you want to capitalize the first letter of a sentence. It goes to lower case after the first letter is typed.

These are the comments you get from a non iOS user.
No, the physical keyboard doesn't switch between upper and lower case. This is coming from a non iOS user.
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iCloud:

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2:23PM "Everything happens automatically and there's nothing new to learn. It just all works."

2:23PM "iCloud stores your content in the cloud and wirelessly pushes it to all your device. It automatically uploads it, stores it, and pushes it to all your devices."

2:23PM "Some people think the cloud is just a big disk in the sky... We think it's way more than that."
And yes, Steve, MobileMe was a disaster.
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The lack of facebook integration is pretty crappy.

And what's up with their keyboard? why is it always in uppercase
Facebook demands too much money.

Ping was supposed to integrate with Facebook but Facebook wanted too much so that feature got canned. Ping is totally dead... shouldn't have been created in the first place IMHO.
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iCloud is a free service? Wow.

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Hey look, propogate your purchased/downloaded apps/books on a new device....


Just like Android.

How's it feel for the 'most advanced mobile OS'(as stated by Razeus) to finally get some parity with features Android has had forever now?
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Hey look, propogate your purchased/downloaded apps/books on a new device....


Just like Android.

How's it feel for the 'most advanced mobile OS'(as stated by Razeus) to finally get some parity with features Android has had forever now?
Can Android create a document on my phone and have that same document in its latest form available on a tablet?

Didn't think so.

Does your Android device auto backup all your purchases and content to a Google cloud service? No? Thought so.
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