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Old Oct 9, 2019, 03:01 PM   #31
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[b][size="3"][b]Tencent also holds only a 5% stake in Blizzard compared to Epic's 40%, which makes the Overwatch developer's decision even more peculiar)

It's not about ownership. It's about wanting access to all of the Chinese player base. The NBA isn't owned by the Chinese, but the NBA can be punished by being restricted access. Hollywood isn't owned by the Chinese (yet) but China can refuse to let films they dislike air in China.

If Epic stands up and says, "Fine... don't let Chinese players access our games" then I applaud them. Will they stick to it if it happens though? All well and good to make a statement when there's nothing on the line.
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Old Oct 9, 2019, 03:02 PM   #32
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I don't really think this is that big of a deal. What did you think would happen when you violated tournament rules and professional conduct?

Blizzard did what pretty much any company would have done in that situation. Tournament rules violated, player was punished. There isn't more to it.

I think it's hilarious people are trying to delete their accounts clowns. Thanks for making the Classic WoW queue shorter on Faerlina though!!
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Old Oct 9, 2019, 03:08 PM   #33
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I don't really think this is that big of a deal. What did you think would happen when you violated tournament rules and professional conduct?

Blizzard did what pretty much any company would have done in that situation. Tournament rules violated, player was punished. There isn't more to it.

I think it's hilarious people are trying to delete their accounts clowns. Thanks for making the Classic WoW queue shorter on Faerlina though!!
and both commentators also fired too?
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I don't really think this is that big of a deal. What did you think would happen when you violated tournament rules and professional conduct?

Blizzard did what pretty much any company would have done in that situation. Tournament rules violated, player was punished. There isn't more to it.

I think it's hilarious people are trying to delete their accounts clowns. Thanks for making the Classic WoW queue shorter on Faerlina though!!

Really, how can ANYONE not fall afoul of this clause?

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Engaging in any act that, in Blizzard’s sole discretion, brings you into public disrepute, offends a portion or group of the public, or otherwise damages Blizzard image will result in removal from Grandmasters and reduction of the player’s prize total to $0 USD, in addition to other remedies which may be provided for under the Handbook and Blizzard’s Website Terms.
A portion of the public will be offended at anything you say, which brings it back to "in Blizzards sole discretion"... ie they get to pick and choose who they punish and can be completely and totally arbitrary about it.

Ie. They're assholes. Are they within their rights based on these ridiculous terms? Guess so. They made sure they can be assholes legally. Doesn't mean that they're not totally sucking up to Chinese censors though.
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Old Oct 9, 2019, 03:11 PM   #35
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just as the NBA's original Chinese Weibo statement was pretty harsh on Daryl Morey compared to the English statement, Blizzard's official Hearthstone Weibo post made an additional comment condemning blitzchung and defending 'the pride of China'
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Epic's lawyers or PR staff would have most likely advised the higher ups to release a statement asap to get ahead of the inevitable questions that would have headed their way, as Tencent owns 40% of their company.

Better to get the statement out now before accusations start, looks more like common sense rather than just an opportunity to get some positive press.
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I am sure Tencent isn't happy with that though. Time to find out how big Tim Sweeney's balls are.
This... I really want someone associated with Epic to put this to the test, but chances are there was an equally strong internal-memo reminding Epic staff to STFU and not engage in any political mumbo-jumbo.
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and both commentators also fired too?
You mean the ones that egged on the player to say something that would get him in trouble? Yep. Easily replaceable with people that have some form of professionalism. People want ESports to be taken seriously but then think **** like this is A-OK. It’s a double-edged sword.
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According to this "walkout" article it seems only about 12% of Blizzard's income comes from that region of the world. Not sure how accurate a figure it is, but they link to the earnings report as a source.

Blizzard Employees Staged a Walkout to Protest Ban of Pro-Hong Kong Gamer
"A small group of Activision Blizzard employees walked out of work Tuesday afternoon to protest the company’s actions against a gamer who expressed support for pro-democracy protesters in Hong Kong during an official livestream."



"Blizzard’s actions inspired a negative reaction among lawmakers, who denounced the gaming giant. On Twitter, Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) said the company was willing to “humiliate itself” to please China. And Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) declared, “Implications of this will be felt long after everyone in U.S. politics today is gone.”"(source)
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- A Hearthstone player was punished by Blizzard because he obviously broke one of their competition rules, governing the HS Grandmasters tourney (that I happen to folow), namely:

Engaging in any act that, in Blizzard’s sole discretion, brings you into public disrepute, offends a portion or group of the public, or otherwise damages Blizzard image will result in removal from Grandmasters and reduction of the player’s prize total to $0 USD, in addition to other remedies which may be provided for under the Handbook and Blizzard’s Website Terms.

- the casters doing the interview were fired too, as they obviously encouraged this player ("Just say the 8 words now!") and when he did they hid behind the desk and giggled.

You can check it out here:
https://youtu.be/X0EsfXd7ZbE?t=18


My personal opinion (tldr; contrarian):

Last night I almost cancelled my WoW Classic sub. But that’s just because in the heat of that moment I didn’t immediately realize that supporting China opression and banning a player for tournament rules violation are really two different things, no matter how much people's emotions and political views may incline them to conflate the two.

I asked myself this:

Had it been a Chinese player, voicing their support of the Chinese regime and calling for even harsher measures against the HK protests, would Blizzard have done the same?

I pondered this question and came to the conclusion that there is no rational (read: based on known facts) reason that I can see why they wouldn’t. And that I will only be rightfully offended, lose my trust and quit AFTER such an event actually transpires. Now sure you may hypothesize they wouldn't ban a China supporter because they are in business cahoots with China. But if they chose to do that and not ban such a person, that would mean a real cause for concern seeing as THAT would be them taking sides. And a third alternative, if they allowed everybody to say what they want, it would mean opening up their gaming platform to political views and then next season you may get not only a Pooh shoutout from China, but also a Greta shoutout/rant from Europe, followed by a Trump shoutout/rant from NA, and next thing you know you’re watching an open world politics forum instead of a game because “muh freedom of speech” and Blizz was too afraid to follow their own rules to set a precedent.

So I think it’s extremely unfortunate that people are misconstruing the ban as “Blizzard siding with China” just because the banned player happened to express his anti-China political views. Had Blizzaard not done anything, the message would have been “we set rules but you are free to just walk all over us if you think your opinion happens to side with the majority of viewers”. I mean had a player expressed a pro-Trump view in the same manner, I can even see the player base decrying Blizzard for not issuing a ban (I mention this regardless of my own personal opinion on Trump or China or any other political topic).

So to conclude, I think it's perfectly fine to be upset about a company choosing to remain apolitical on a hot issue - if people want to change the way companies like Blizzard operate in this regard, then more power to them (I personally don't think they will get far).

But what people are doing here instead is they are letting their emotions and assumptions get the better of them (hell I almost cancelled my sub too and I like to think of myself as rational) and are accusing this company of being political on this issue, which is not supported by actual facts. P.S. I'm not a native speaker but is it correct to use the term "shortcut thinking" here?
It sounds to me more like the ban is them being political. Also that verbiage being in there is total bullshit, and frankly a reason to boycott Blizzard in itself. It literally says they can void someone's winnings for any reason.That makes a joke about the whole thing. It's "get out of jail free" language in the contract that never should have been used in actuality.

What if a team won the NBA championship and their coach or star player said something unpopular and the championship was revoked? It would be total bullshit, just as it is in this case. People can say things, even unpopular things, or act in unacceptable ways, and that should be separate from whether or not they won a tournament.

If someone spouted off in praise of Trump after winning, I might think they're an idiot, but I wouldn't want them to be banned or forfeit their winnings. Over the years, athletes have said all kinds of stupid crap after winning, it doesn't mean I necessarily respect their intellect, but it also doesn't void their win. I mean, it's their right to say it, whether I agree or not.

I'd go so far as to say that if someone said something truly heinous after winning, I don't know, supporting the Holocaust or something, that still should not void their winning. Fine if they're not invited to further competition, but it should not retroactively cost them their winnings. In this case, the statement was far more innocuous and less offensive than that.

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In this case, the statement was far more innocuous and less offensive than that.
Not to communist china it wasn't.
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While Trumps trade war with China might hurt in the short term, it's in our best interest to see that through. We built this beast by sending all of our production there, and now we get to live with it.

Their people went from dirt poor to either rich or slightly above poor all while their government reaped all the benefits. They have no freedom, and as you can see here they're afraid of their government.

They steel all of our tech, treat their people like ****, and try to spread that bullshit via stuff like this.

If the world thinks the US is the bad guy, they have a HUGE "woke" moment coming if China keeps growing.

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I think it’s pretty crazy how the cold-war era line of thinking has carried forward generations
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I had Battle.net uninstalled for over a year now. Since they perma banned me for their own mysterious interpretation of "Abusive Chat" in Overwatch. The fact that they refused to give specifics on the matter and treated me really badly with their support tickets. Yes I do rage, no more than I did in WoW, Dota 2, SFV, CSGO and whatever other online game in which I was never ever was permanently banned.


Amazingly, after my ban, they got into so many shenanigans such as the Soldier 67 is gay, increased diversity pandering in OW, Diablo Mobile, Core members leaving, ...etc. They even have a tight grip on social media where they silent delete posts and threads on Reddit and youtube.


They have reached far and it just a continued downward trend and I really hope the decision makers in that organization get impacted.
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Well, out of the games you listed, OW is the only one where they are actively trying to counter toxic behavior.
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This about sums this whole mess up:



Only thing the guy gets wrong is the extradition law he mentions was never passed and eventually scrapped by the HK government this summer, and so the HK protesters came up with other 4 demands. He's saying the protesters are still fighting this particular law while that's obviously not the case any more.
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According to this "walkout" article it seems only about 12% of Blizzard's income comes from that region of the world. Not sure how accurate a figure it is, but they link to the earnings report as a source.

Blizzard Employees Staged a Walkout to Protest Ban of Pro-Hong Kong Gamer
"A small group of Activision Blizzard employees walked out of work Tuesday afternoon to protest the company’s actions against a gamer who expressed support for pro-democracy protesters in Hong Kong during an official livestream."



"Blizzard’s actions inspired a negative reaction among lawmakers, who denounced the gaming giant. On Twitter, Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) said the company was willing to “humiliate itself” to please China. And Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) declared, “Implications of this will be felt long after everyone in U.S. politics today is gone.”"(source)
You dun goofed when both Republicans and Democrats are attacking you.
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Blizzard and NBA should do a team up on this!
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Old Oct 11, 2019, 01:40 PM   #54
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Blizzard and NBA should do a team up on this!
wonder how much unrest China would have if both fully pulled out of China

blizzard could turn off the China servers and none of the games would work in China


google is the worst in this and they are not getting heat like blizzard is
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wonder how much unrest China would have if both fully pulled out of China

blizzard could turn off the China servers and none of the games would work in China


google is the worst in this and they are not getting heat like blizzard is
It would be the same as it is now. Chinas government couldnt give any less ****s about its people playing Overwatch and watching the NBA. They might even pull the plugs themselves on both.

The fact of the matter is they both want that slice of the china market so in reality neither of them will do it.
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It would be the same as it is now. Chinas government couldnt give any less ****s about its people playing Overwatch and watching the NBA. They might even pull the plugs themselves on both.

The fact of the matter is they both want that slice of the china market so in reality neither of them will do it.
China is so scary that if they decided the NBA no longer exists, they would wipe it off their Internet, news services, history books, etc. just like they did with South Park. Instead of giving their people freedom and democracy, risking they choose someone else to make political decisions, they rule by controlling information, removing choices and fear. I admit that it's not perfect anywhere and winners get to rewrite history the way they want, but to actively be able to wipe out something from a population's shared consciousness is unbelievable.

That said, if Overwatch was blackballed and disappeared from the Chinese market, it would ultimately hurt Blizzard which I guess is the point. It would be a proof of concept if anything.
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I wouldnt be surprised if they wiped Blizzard from its country just to make a statement. Absolute control like that is crazy

If they continue to go on like that I wonder what would be the straw that broke the camels back and creates a real revolt.
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Honestly, it could be one of these. The mainland seems a lot more stable than some of its other, ahem, holdings, but China's been rapidly growing and rapidly moving towards non-communist ideals for a long time now. You cut off a significant source of entertainment for a long time (think of how big WC3 and stuff was, if they cut all of Blizz stuff from their internet there will be a huge shakeup in their games market), and that may be more than enough for the younger generation, raised under a largely capitalist status-quo over the official communist stance, to start really pushing for reform.




I guess we'll see, though. This is certainly enough of a fiasco to warrant an official response out of China, and it could even get worse if there are demonstrations and things at Blizzcon (in 3 weeks).
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Honestly, it could be one of these. The mainland seems a lot more stable than some of its other, ahem, holdings, but China's been rapidly growing and rapidly moving towards non-communist ideals for a long time now. You cut off a significant source of entertainment for a long time (think of how big WC3 and stuff was, if they cut all of Blizz stuff from their internet there will be a huge shakeup in their games market), and that may be more than enough for the younger generation, raised under a largely capitalist status-quo over the official communist stance, to start really pushing for reform.




I guess we'll see, though. This is certainly enough of a fiasco to warrant an official response out of China, and it could even get worse if there are demonstrations and things at Blizzcon (in 3 weeks).
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Well they released a statement. It's about in line with what I expected and while it sounds reasonable and plausible enough, do we think people will believe them when they say " our relationships in China had no influence on our decision."




My guess is no, and I think the haste at which they reacted to it is really plenty of evidence.





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