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Old Apr 10, 2014, 07:05 PM   #1
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Someone leaked the press drivers, thread I believe at guru3d and OC net wioth D/L links.
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Old Apr 10, 2014, 07:17 PM   #2
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Old Apr 10, 2014, 07:25 PM   #3
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I was about to post that one...lol

...I'm not gonna install that leaked driver. Use your risk. I find 14.2 Beta works better for me anyway....
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Old Apr 10, 2014, 07:28 PM   #4
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they work great for me. no more sticky clocks, and powertune works now.
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Old Apr 10, 2014, 07:47 PM   #5
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Titanfall doesn't flicker with crossfire anymore. Still locked to vsync though. Game probably needs patched not, AMD's fault here I believe.

Diablo 3 CFX still only works with VSYNC and limited to 60 fps (AKA useless)

BF4 Mantle still exhibits the strange capped fps phenomena with the new framepacing method ( probably a dice problem) Didnt have time to test teh old method to see if the memory leak/FPS spike every few minutes was still there.

Thief Mantle CFX still broke
Thief DX CFX seems to work (I only ran the bench).

3DMARK once again loses another 100 points compared to previous betas, and still way behind the 13.12's..

So looks like titanfall CFX support, and not much else. Same old probs with the other new games.

keep in mind thats just a few minutes with the drivers, checking crap.
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Old Apr 11, 2014, 04:26 AM   #6
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I think for thief mantle cfx problem, the game needs a patch not a driver.
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I think for thief mantle cfx problem, the game needs a patch not a driver.
Most likely; the part of the point of Mantle was to push this stuff into the domain of the game developer.

Their might be some driver issues making life hard for them but for the most part CFX control should now be in their hands.
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Offtopic: I downloaded the leaked from this link:

https://mega.co.nz/#!Yx82QCKL!_pGacc52C6dK2IToGXGj1ggAsoRsprhCOowsAfZGcxQ<br />Include file key

And i downloaded with 10MB/s from Mega...I tracerouted the site and is mirrored in EU but still 10MB/s ... Kudos to DotCom for such speedy service and mirrors...
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Old Apr 11, 2014, 11:41 AM   #9
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Offtopic: I downloaded the leaked from this link:

https://mega.co.nz/#!Yx82QCKL!_pGacc52C6dK2IToGXGj1ggAsoRsprhCOowsAfZGcxQ<br />Include file key

And i downloaded with 10MB/s from Mega...I tracerouted the site and is mirrored in EU but still 10MB/s ... Kudos to DotCom for such speedy service and mirrors...
I agree it was quite fast for me as well.
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3DMARK once again loses another 100 points compared to previous betas, and still way behind the 13.12's..
Can't believe a rage3d supposed "veteran" worries about 100 points in 3Dmark... which could be due to all kind of external factors. I get those kind of differences between two tests made just one after the other.

No, seriously...
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Old Apr 11, 2014, 12:55 PM   #11
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Can't believe a rage3d supposed "veteran" worries about 100 points in 3Dmark... which could be due to all kind of external factors. I get those kind of differences between two tests made just one after the other.

No, seriously...
Because it's consistent, I change drivers like people change underwear. I can go from 13.12's and consistently it will be 300 points higher than the beta 14's and beta 13's. and 400 points higher than the leaked drivers. Every single time. I'm not the only one who has noticed this either. Some drivers are just better at 3dmark and the 13.12's were pretty darn good. Also mine don't fluctuate like yours by 100 points maybe 20 points. Maybe because my fan profiles allow no throttling, so from the moment of go, I'm full tilt til the end? Fire strike extreme is pretty dang consistent. No seriously.

So not sure what your beef is, but your wrong. But please insult me more....


13.12's: 12552;12561;12556 etc.... (stock clocks) not sure why you fluctuate like you do, but I don't.



btw my driver change process is run 3dmark on 13.12's, install new drivers, run 3dmark, test some games go back to 13.12's. So I've compared it alot and benched the beta drivers alot. Always the same. 13.12's 300 points higher then betas every time (400 for press leaked 14.1's). benching is fun, and trying to get higher numbers is fun, so whats it to you if I care about 100 points? why did you buy a 290x instead of a 290? 290 is plenty fast enough and not much slower than a 290, cant believe someone from 2004 would do that, no seriously?? maybe because you wanted that extra bit of performance you will never notice, but like nonetheless, same here, same reason I care if I lose 100 points, that could mean the beta drivers don't perform in other situations (besides a bench) as well as the 13.12's could it not?

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I have two reasons for my previous post, friend:

1) indeed, some external factors can impacts benchmarks, specially for such small amounts. And that can be as simple as a single software installation or upgrade, or even a windows update.

2) 100 less points on a synthetic benchmark like 3DMark, which always does the same thing using the same algorithms, exactly the same way, can be due to the driver dealing with things a bit less nicely for 3DMark but much better for everything else, which is real applications like games. This happened a lot of times before.

So yeah, I'm still amazed when veterans here are alarmed by a 100 point decrease in 3DMark score. Would you say 1000+ points, then yes, there's most likely something wrong.

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Old Apr 11, 2014, 04:52 PM   #13
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I have two reasons for my previous post, friend:



2) 100 less points on a synthetic benchmark like 3DMark, which always does the same thing using the same algorithms, exactly the same way, can be due to the driver dealing with things a bit less nicely for 3DMark but much better for everything else, which is real applications like games. This happened a lot of times before.

So yeah, I'm still amazed when veterans here are alarmed by a 100 point decrease in 3DMark score. Would you say 1000+ points, then yes, there's most likely something wrong.

1st off that's obvious , but it also just as equally plausible that what ever causes less performance in 3dmark will also have an adverse effect in some games.


Secondly, it amazes you that on an enthusiast website people care about benchmarks scores......ok.

100 points consistently less is a huge deal when you overclock trying to make your way up the HOF chart. Hence why knowing which drivers give the best performance is of interest. So unless they get the 400 points back when the next whql's arrive ill bench using 13.12's if I want to move up the chart.

Btw it's not just 100 points. You see only whql drivers actually count, so....it was whql , than 1st beta lose 300 points, next beta no additional loss, next driver an additional 100, which doesn't bode well for the next whql's because it's a negative trend and it's currently at a 400-500 point deficit.

But please continue, I'm amazed friend at your amazement and ability to insult and call people friend.

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The App has to enable Crossfire support in Mantle, nothing to do with the drivers. Would require a game patch.
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The App has to enable Crossfire support in Mantle, nothing to do with the drivers. Would require a game patch.
yeah i kind of figured that, but I still had hope. Same with titanfall. Been putting off titanfall until i can play it with crossfire with no vsync, but I know deep down that's more than likely up to the devs on the game to unlock the fps in some other fashion. That said, I am pretty sure that titanfalls ability to properly use crossfire even with vsync on is an AMD issue ( it never uses the cards to their full potential) and by issue I mean they will need a profile for it now.

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Thief is far from being the only game I have played in Crossfire, yet it's the only one I'm experiencing problems with. The fan on the second card is continuously changing speed, there is occasional flickering and UI corruption.
I don't really care who has to fix what, I'd just hope these problems would be acknowledged and taken care of.
PC games run on GPU's, GPU's are made for running pc games, can't see a more straightforward and intertwined relation than this; I might be naive, but it still amazes me how game and drivers bugs take forever to be fixed when not going often completely ignored. Besides a few exceptions, I have a feeling that software quality is definitely decreasing, and I'm even more surprised at the number of major bugs that seem to literally slip unnoticed.
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