Catalyst 14.3 v 1.0 Beta now out...

Qamly · Mar 18, 2014, 01:54 AM

http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-arti...dows-beta.aspx

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Last Updates: 3/17/2014
Article Number: RN-WIN-B14.3V1.0

The AMD Catalyst™ 14.3 Beta V1.0 Driver can be downloaded from the following links:

AMD Catalyst™ 14.3 V1.0 Beta for Windows®

http://www2.ati.com/drivers/beta/AMD...22_March12.exe

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Installing The AMD Catalyst™ Software Driver
Current driver MUST be uninstalled before updating to AMD Catalyst™ 14.3 Beta V1.0 driver. For detailed instructions on how to correctly uninstall or install the AMD Catalyst Software Suite, please refer to the following support resources:
How-To Uninstall AMD Catalyst™ Drivers From A Windows® Based System
How-To Install AMD Catalyst™ Drivers For A Windows® Based System

Feature Highlights of The AMD Catalyst™ 14.3 Beta V1.0 Driver for Windows®
Thief:
AMD Mantle and AMD True Audio support
Improves stuttering observed in CrossFire mode
Call of Duty: Ghosts: QUAD CrossFire profile update – improves level load times
Audio issues observed when using CrossFire configurations (and V-sync enabled) have been resolved
BattleField 4: V-sync issues observed on CrossFire configurations (with Mantle enabled) have been resolved

Known Issues
Intermittent driver stability issues when installing/un-installing on Desktop Kaveri platforms that support AMD Enduro technology under Windows 8.1. Please disable Enduro support to resolve the issue
Secondary GPUs do not enter low power state on CrossFire configurations; this issue will be addressed in the next AMD Catalyst beta release
Thief (DirectX): Lighting flickers on CrossFire configurations only after CrossFire has been enabled then disabled; this issue will be addressed in the next AMD Catalyst beta release
Battlefield 4 (DirectX): Quad CrossFire configurations with Eyefinity Display configurations suffer slowdowns and stability issues
Titanfall: Flickering occurs under AMD CrossFire configurations

Compatible Operating Systems
The AMD Catalyst™ 14.3 Beta V1.0 Driver for Windows® is designed to support the following Microsoft Windows platforms:
Windows 8.1 (32 & 64-bit version)
Windows 8 (32 & 64-bit version)
Windows 7 (32 & 64-bit version with SP1 or higher)

Dyre Straits · Mar 18, 2014, 01:59 AM

NOTES have now been added to the OP.

Ristogod · Mar 18, 2014, 02:18 AM

Only mention of Titanfall is to say its broken. Sigh... was hoping they'd maybe support this title in a timely manner. Maybe they didn't know about it. After all with the limited press coverage of the game.

Mangler · Mar 18, 2014, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Ristogod

Only mention of Titanfall is to say its broken. Sigh... was hoping they'd maybe support this title in a timely manner. Maybe they didn't know about it. After all with the limited press coverage of the game.

kakarot · Mar 18, 2014, 08:35 AM

Clocks still sticking with these, wtg amd!!!

joe3000 · Mar 18, 2014, 08:45 AM

Still no mantle support for HD7000, so what tha f are you doing AMD?????!

Lurk · Mar 18, 2014, 09:02 AM

that's what you get when patched drivers are released way before schedule!

Mantle is supported afaik; if I read the news correctly Eidos will release a patch for Thief to use the new API.

At least they aknowledge the Crossfire stuttering in Thief, but I would have rather read 'resolved' instead of 'improved'

Also someone pls explain the flickering lights in Crossfire when it has been enabled THEN disabled

Jerm357 · Mar 18, 2014, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by joe3000

Still no mantle support for HD7000, so what tha f are you doing AMD?????!

Yeah, whats going on with this... Im still waiting to play BF4 with mantle on my 270x and not have a bunch of stuttering going on. When will all the other cards be fully supported with mantle? Its been a while since AMD has even mentioned that this is even still a problem.

ShaidarHaran · Mar 18, 2014, 01:03 PM

Woohoo! I can finally use Vsync again.

bill dennison · Mar 18, 2014, 01:16 PM

i'm getting no crossfire in thief with mantle on, but cfx works fine in DX with mantle off

rms · Mar 18, 2014, 01:55 PM

Thief Mantle benchmarks!

A very quick run on my machine: Phenom2 x6 @3.8ghz, and single R290X, 1920x1200, all settings maxxed except SSAA turned off (I'd read there's some conflict between FXAA & SSAA, dunno if true), Catalyst 14.3

DirectX Mantle
Min 29.0 57.4
Max 92.2 111.7
Avg 44.4 78.1

Falcon1 · Mar 18, 2014, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bill dennison

i'm getting no crossfire in thief with mantle on, but cfx works fine in DX with mantle off

I can confirm this:

Code:

2560x1080
            Min FPS     Avg FPS      Max FPS
DirectX      42,3        66,1         92,2
Mantle        24         42,7         58,5

1920x1080
DirectX      44,3        65,6          104
Mantle       41,3        52,3         70,4

That is with all settings maxed, including SSAA set to High.

Flanker35M · Mar 18, 2014, 02:40 PM

S!

Thief works excellante with these drivers. Ran the benchmark with all maxed out at 1920x1080 121Hz, field of view 100. Minimum: 58.1fps Maximum: 95.4fps Average: 70.1fps. Not bad at all.

Falcon1 · Mar 18, 2014, 03:06 PM

OK, just tested some single GPU performance. There is something really strange going on. With Mantle and only one 7970, the game won't go in Fullscreen, it stays in borderless window, no matter what you set it to be (keeps reverting the option).

Therefore, my single GPU results are kind of bugged... Really annoying. Staying with DX on Thief for now. Works solid and flawless.

All results:

ThirdEye · Mar 18, 2014, 03:53 PM

2560x1080 with SSAA High

DX
Min: 28.9 Max: 52.9 Avg: 37.4

Mantle
Min: 32.7 Max: 56.6 Avg: 40.0

yawn

DarkFoss · Mar 18, 2014, 06:59 PM

Hmm, I'm thinking I'll stick with the 14.2 beta's. From what I see here there is no compelling reason to upgrade since I have 2 7970's and don't own Thief.
FAH performance is excellent as is.

Lurk · Mar 18, 2014, 10:15 PM

lovely. used amd uninstall utility and my Windows 7 installation is fried. BSOD, no repair, no safe mode, no nothing. Since I have no restore points, I'm totally fuk3d.

Falcon1 · Mar 18, 2014, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lurk

Since I have no restore points

Hah, that's why I set up an Image software to make complet images of my system drive twice a week

teiva · Mar 18, 2014, 11:19 PM

Definitely an improvement in Thief with Mantle on. It can only get better from here

Ninbri64 · Mar 19, 2014, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerm357

Yeah, whats going on with this... Im still waiting to play BF4 with mantle on my 270x and not have a bunch of stuttering going on. When will all the other cards be fully supported with mantle? Its been a while since AMD has even mentioned that this is even still a problem.

I have two 7970s in crossfire and until this 14.3 update I could not play in Mantle with Battlefield 4. I could physically select it but would give me a very very stuttery and awful experience. Now with Vsync on the game runs better than ever, like butter. I'm totally surprised this driver actually worked for me with Mantle in Battlefield 4. Is the 270x still not supported?

Dyre Straits · Mar 19, 2014, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Lurk

lovely. used amd uninstall utility and my Windows 7 installation is fried. BSOD, no repair, no safe mode, no nothing. Since I have no restore points, I'm totally ****3d.

There is a Warning about using the AMD Install Utility with any AMD CPU and system. It definitely can wreck havoc on your system.

Roadking · Mar 19, 2014, 01:04 AM

My Thief Benchmark
DX
Min-34 Max-78 Avg-53

Mantle
Min-59 Max-101 Avg-72

Got the driver and patch just in time to play the last two minutes of Thief. Gota love the bait and switch.

kakarot · Mar 19, 2014, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Lurk

lovely. used amd uninstall utility and my Windows 7 installation is fried. BSOD, no repair, no safe mode, no nothing. Since I have no restore points, I'm totally ****3d.

Yeah don't run that on an amd system. Use DDU or Driverfusion instead.
Also i seen people just log in to windows and run it which is asking for trouble. Uninstalling the drivers and then running it in safe mode is the only way to avoid issues regardless of chipset.

Clocks are still sticking with these tho, tested on a clean install and its still the same. Funny how after all these betas and feedback the issue is still not on the known issues list

Jerm357 · Mar 19, 2014, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninbri64

I have two 7970s in crossfire and until this 14.3 update I could not play in Mantle with Battlefield 4. I could physically select it but would give me a very very stuttery and awful experience. Now with Vsync on the game runs better than ever, like butter. I'm totally surprised this driver actually worked for me with Mantle in Battlefield 4. Is the 270x still not supported?

I have not tried yet with the 14.3... the last time I tried was with 14.1 and it was stuttery. I now have 14.2 installed, but I did not try it yet because there was no word about it being fixed in the release notes. Since AMD said that all the other cards but the 290 cards still needed to be optimized for mantle in the 14.1 release notes I figured that once it was done they would tell us. I guess Ill install the new 14.3's today and give it a shot to see if anything has changed.

Edit: Just tested BF4 on Mantle with 14.3 and it is still stuttering more then DX 11 for me.

Pirate Neilsouth · Mar 19, 2014, 11:27 AM

Stop using AMD Install Utility, use the daily-weekly updated DDU!

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=379505

WaltC · Mar 19, 2014, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Lurk

lovely. used amd uninstall utility and my Windows 7 installation is fried. BSOD, no repair, no safe mode, no nothing. Since I have no restore points, I'm totally ****3d.

You may have something else going on.... I have an AMD system (cpu/gpu/core logic) and the only thing I noticed about using the AMD uninstall utility is the annoying fact that it deletes the "AMD" directory and that's where I kept my downloaded driver originals (along with their decompressed versions.) So I started keeping my driver downloads in a folder called "AMD Drivers" (cryptic, eh?) which the uninstall utility doesn't touch. No bsod's, no problems.

With the 14.3b's I installed those right over the top of the 14.2b's, and then read that I should have uninstalled before installing--so I uninstalled everything and then reinstalled 14.3's--again, no problem. No bsods.

Actually, I stopped using the AMD uninstall utility altogether as I found it to be overkill. What works reliably for me is the "Express Uninstall Everything" option in the normal driver uninstall routine--everything except game profiles is uninstalled. Works every time...which I'm glad of.

The major difference between our systems is Crossfire...AMD does indeed have some driver problems if merely the presence of Crossfire is causing problems like yours.

JohnEJohn · Mar 19, 2014, 12:32 PM

Argh Lurk, you should not be using that on an amd system it can severely break your windows install, works for some of course but I have read many horror stories just like yours.

The warning should be much bigger, in fact I would go further and say they should just contain it to a GPU driver cleaner not chipset/cpu, they should be manual update only.

Sorry mang

Lurk · Mar 19, 2014, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dyre Straits

There is a Warning about using the AMD Install Utility with any AMD CPU and system. It definitely can wreck havoc on your system.

funny how that same window appears when you use express uninstall from the AMD install manager or whatever it's called

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pirate Neilsouth

Stop using AMD Install Utility, use the daily-weekly updated DDU!

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=379505

thx 4 the link

Quote:

Originally Posted by WaltC

You may have something else going on.... I have an AMD system (cpu/gpu/core logic) and the only thing I noticed about using the AMD uninstall utility is the annoying fact that it deletes the "AMD" directory and that's where I kept my downloaded driver originals (along with their decompressed versions.) So I started keeping my driver downloads in a folder called "AMD Drivers" (cryptic, eh?) which the uninstall utility doesn't touch. No bsod's, no problems.

With the 14.3b's I installed those right over the top of the 14.2b's, and then read that I should have uninstalled before installing--so I uninstalled everything and then reinstalled 14.3's--again, no problem. No bsods.

Actually, I stopped using the AMD uninstall utility altogether as I found it to be overkill. What works reliably for me is the "Express Uninstall Everything" option in the normal driver uninstall routine--everything except game profiles is uninstalled. Works every time...which I'm glad of.

The major difference between our systems is Crossfire...AMD does indeed have some driver problems if merely the presence of Crossfire is causing problems like yours.

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Originally Posted by JohnEJohn

Argh Lurk, you should not be using that on an amd system it can severely break your windows install, works for some of course but I have read many horror stories just like yours.

The warning should be much bigger, in fact I would go further and say they should just contain it to a GPU driver cleaner not chipset/cpu, they should be manual update only.

Sorry mang

To both of you, on my previous system (Win7 - 890FX chipset - AMD PhenomX4 CPU and Crossfired 7950's), I used that darn utility many times w/o ANY issue, then it was removed from AMD's website for a while, then yesterday it re-appeared and I thought what the heck. For some reason this new Win7 installation on revamped system (990FX chipset - AMD FX CPU) didn't like what I was doing.
Pulling my hair thinking I got everything perfectly set up less than a month ago, and now here I'm all-over again having to restart EVERYTHING from scratch. Nothing, NOTHING I did last night allowed me to enter OS in any way, although drive content and RAID array are still intact. Can't believe what a nuisance this is going to be, I'm pissed like a suburban sidewalk.

Thx for your comprehension, guys.

JohnEJohn · Mar 19, 2014, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lurk

funny how that same window appears when you use express uninstall from the AMD install manager or whatever it's called

thx 4 the link

To both of you, on my previous system (Win7 - 890FX chipset - AMD PhenomX4 CPU and Crossfired 7950's), I used that darn utility many times w/o ANY issue, then it was removed from AMD's website for a while, then yesterday it re-appeared and I thought what the heck. For some reason this new Win7 installation on revamped system (990FX chipset - AMD FX CPU) didn't like what I was doing.
Pulling my hair thinking I got everything perfectly set up less than a month ago, and now here I'm all-over again having to restart EVERYTHING from scratch. Nothing, NOTHING I did last night allowed me to enter OS in any way, although drive content and RAID array are still intact. Can't believe what a nuisance this is going to be, I'm pissed like a suburban sidewalk.

Thx for your comprehension, guys.

It sucks man, sorry to hear about your problems, I thought it was a well known issue but as it has worked for you on other AMD systems I can see why you didn't hesitate.

This is why I always have the following: 1 drive for windows and apps, 1 (or more) drive for games and a couple mirrored for storage. I always make an image of the windows and app drive as soon as all drivers and tweaks have been installed/carried out and everything is pointing in the right direction.

If you have the space/drives to do this I would seriously consider going that route and using something like macrium reflect to image the windows drive.

Dwarden · Mar 19, 2014, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dyre Straits

There is a Warning about using the AMD Install Utility with any AMD CPU and system. It definitely can wreck havoc on your system.

it also breaks avast and some other software ...

definitely very bad to nonIT skilled users ...

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Mar 18, 2014, 02:18 AM	#3
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Mar 18, 2014, 08:35 AM	#5
kakarot Radeon Caribbean Islands Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Boston Posts: 4,041	Clocks still sticking with these, wtg amd!!!

Mar 18, 2014, 08:45 AM	#6
joe3000 Radeon R300 Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 123	Still no mantle support for HD7000, so what tha f are you doing AMD?????!

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Mar 18, 2014, 09:02 AM	#7
Lurk Going Nowhere Fast Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Torino Posts: 4,440	that's what you get when patched drivers are released way before schedule! Mantle is supported afaik; if I read the news correctly Eidos will release a patch for Thief to use the new API. At least they aknowledge the Crossfire stuttering in Thief, but I would have rather read 'resolved' instead of 'improved' Also someone pls explain the flickering lights in Crossfire when it has been enabled THEN disabled __________________ No question is dumb if you do not know the answer. Q: How can you move on in life if all you care about is pussy and videogames? A: You don't.

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Mar 18, 2014, 01:03 PM	#9
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Mar 18, 2014, 01:16 PM	#10
bill dennison Radeon Arctic Islands Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: phoenix Posts: 17,880	i'm getting no crossfire in thief with mantle on, but cfx works fine in DX with mantle off

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Mar 18, 2014, 01:55 PM	#11
rms Radeon R420 Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 259	Thief Mantle benchmarks! A very quick run on my machine: Phenom2 x6 @3.8ghz, and single R290X, 1920x1200, all settings maxxed except SSAA turned off (I'd read there's some conflict between FXAA & SSAA, dunno if true), Catalyst 14.3 DirectX Mantle Min 29.0 57.4 Max 92.2 111.7 Avg 44.4 78.1

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Mar 18, 2014, 02:40 PM	#13
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Mar 18, 2014, 03:06 PM	#14
Falcon1 Free Bird Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bergen (Near Munich) Posts: 1,138	OK, just tested some single GPU performance. There is something really strange going on. With Mantle and only one 7970, the game won't go in Fullscreen, it stays in borderless window, no matter what you set it to be (keeps reverting the option). Therefore, my single GPU results are kind of bugged... Really annoying. Staying with DX on Thief for now. Works solid and flawless. All results: __________________ My Blog \| My PC System \| My Audio Equipment \| Last.FM Last edited by Falcon1 : Mar 18, 2014 at 03:46 PM.

Mar 18, 2014, 03:53 PM	#15
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Mar 18, 2014, 06:59 PM	#16
DarkFoss Radeon R700 Join Date: May 2002 Location: Illinios Posts: 802	Hmm, I'm thinking I'll stick with the 14.2 beta's. From what I see here there is no compelling reason to upgrade since I have 2 7970's and don't own Thief. FAH performance is excellent as is. __________________ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety,deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Ben Franklin, 1755

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Mar 18, 2014, 10:15 PM	#17
Lurk Going Nowhere Fast Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Torino Posts: 4,440	lovely. used amd uninstall utility and my Windows 7 installation is fried. BSOD, no repair, no safe mode, no nothing. Since I have no restore points, I'm totally fuk3d. __________________ No question is dumb if you do not know the answer. Q: How can you move on in life if all you care about is pussy and videogames? A: You don't. Last edited by Lurk : Mar 19, 2014 at 12:58 PM.

Mar 18, 2014, 11:19 PM	#19
teiva Radeon R200 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Townsville Posts: 72	Definitely an improvement in Thief with Mantle on. It can only get better from here

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Cooling Solution	Thermaltake Water 3.0 Extreme
Display	Samsung 34inch 790CE
Soundcard & Speakers	Onboard
Hard-Drives	Samsung 256GB SSD 840BW Pro + Seagate ST4000DM000 4TB
Optical Drives	LG BH16NS40(Retail) Blu-Ray
Power Supply	Antech 800W
Case	Thermaltake VN300M1W2N Chaser MK-I Full Tower
Input Devices	Logitech G500 Mouse
Operating System	Win8.1 64bit

Ninbri64's System Specs
Motherboard	Gigabyte G1 Assassin 2
CPU	Intel Core i7 3930k 4.4GHz
Graphics	Geforce GTX Titan X - 2x SLI
Memory	16GB G.Skill 2133
Cooling Solution	Corsair H80i
Display	ASUS 27" VE278Q
Soundcard & Speakers	Sound Blaster X-Fi \|Klipsch Promedia 5.1
Hard-Drives	Samsung 840 Pro 256 \| 850 1TB \| Seagate 3TB
Optical Drives	LG Bluray Burner
Power Supply	Corsair AX 1200
Case	Silverstone Raven RV-01
Input Devices	Logitech G19 Keyboard \| G9 Mouse
Operating System	Microsoft Windows 8.1 Professional

Mar 19, 2014, 01:04 AM	#22
Roadking Radeon R300 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Arizona Posts: 113	My Thief Benchmark DX Min-34 Max-78 Avg-53 Mantle Min-59 Max-101 Avg-72 Got the driver and patch just in time to play the last two minutes of Thief. Gota love the bait and switch. Last edited by Roadking : Mar 19, 2014 at 10:42 AM.

Roadking's System Specs
Motherboard	ASUS CH V Formula 990FX
CPU	AMD FX-8350 4.6GHZ
Graphics	Sapphire R9 290X 1150/1350 @1.251v
Memory	4Gx4 GSKILL F3-17000CL11D-8GBSR 16GB @ 2133
Cooling Solution	XSPC Raystorm RX240 Extreme Universal CPU Water Cooling Kit w/ 2 RX240 Radiators
Display	Asus VG248 144Hz
Soundcard & Speakers	Asus Xonar D1
Hard-Drives	Samsung 840 EVO 1TB
Power Supply	ENERMAX REVOLUTION85+ ERV1020EWT
Case	Cooler Master COSMOS II
Input Devices	MS Wireless 360 for PC & Logitech Wireless Rumble Pad
Operating System	Win 8.1 Pro
Extra Info	125

Mar 19, 2014, 11:27 AM	#25
Pirate Neilsouth The undead have returned! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Here and there Posts: 22,391	Stop using AMD Install Utility, use the daily-weekly updated DDU! http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=379505 __________________ The undead Pirate Mod has returned to claim his victims!

Pirate Neilsouth's System Specs
Motherboard	Gigabyte z80
CPU	I5 4.7
Graphics	MSI 280x
Memory	8GB
Cooling Solution	Uprated Cooler
Display	SyncMaster T240
Soundcard & Speakers	Creative XFI-GAMER
Hard-Drives	50GB/120GB SSD - 2TB EXT
Optical Drives	Super WriteMaster
Power Supply	OCZ 600w
Case	Coolermaster
Input Devices	Logitech MX518
Operating System	Win 8 64bit

WaltC's System Specs
Motherboard	MSI AMD 970 Gaming
CPU	FX-8320E @4.2GHz 8-cores
Graphics	MSI R9 380 4GB , 1.1GHz core/6GHz ram
Memory	8GB HyperX @2133 (2x4)
Cooling Solution	Standard coolers
Display	HannsGHZ281HPB 28" of Eye Candy
Soundcard & Speakers	RealTek ALC 1150 & Headphones
Hard-Drives	250GB EVO 850 boot, 1 Seagate 320GB S2; 1 WD Blue S3 1TB ; 2 Seagate ST3500418AS Sata3's in RAID 0
Optical Drives	1 LG DVD R/W
Power Supply	Corsair CX-750M 62a 12v rail x1
Case	Lian-Li PCV-1200
Input Devices	Logitech Internet Keyboard & Perrix MX2000II @~5600 dpi
Operating System	UEFI boot of Windows 10 Pro x64, Secure Boot ON
Extra Info	Martian air-filtration unit XC-V51

JohnEJohn's System Specs
Motherboard	ASUS P8z68-v Pro Gen 3
CPU	2700K @ 5GHZ
Graphics	ASUS 7970 Matrix Platimun @ 1200/7000
Memory	GSkill RipjawsZ 16GB DDR3 2133 MHz
Cooling Solution	H80, lots of silent fans
Display	Dell SP2309W 2048*1152
Soundcard & Speakers	Creative XFI Extreme Gamer
Hard-Drives	21TB Mirrored for Storage, 2Vertex3 120GB Raid 0, Vetex III 60gb for os, vertex 4 256GB for steam
Optical Drives	Typical BlueRay player, DVD Burner
Power Supply	Hiper 4m780
Case	Thermaltake Xaser IV
Input Devices	G15, G9
Operating System	Win 8.1x64 Professional
Extra Info	Null

Dwarden's System Specs
Motherboard	ASUS P5B-E Deluxe v1.01G
CPU	Intel E6300 @ 2333MHz
Graphics	HIS X1950Pro 51MB PCIe
Memory	2GB A-DATA DDR2-667 4-4-4-12
Soundcard & Speakers	X-Fi XtremeGamer
Operating System	WindowsXP Pro SP2 English