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Old Aug 25, 2019, 02:57 PM   #3721
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Did SirPauly get his account hacked? He doesn't sound like his usual calm and collected nvidia shill self....
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Old Aug 25, 2019, 02:57 PM   #3722
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What is diminishing returns? That increasing the core from 1900-2000 isn’t the same as 2000-2100? I don’t get it.

My lame response .. lol can’t bench for people at work pal. My favorite part is I was joking with demo and a bunch of people who don’t even own the card t to interject their worthless opinion
Offering KAC search Google instead of first hand examples is lame. The performance context was a core of 2025 compared to 2100.
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Old Aug 25, 2019, 03:07 PM   #3723
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Did SirPauly get his account hacked? He doesn't sound like his usual calm and collected nvidia shill self....
I've been called a 3dfx shill, Ati shill and a Nvidia shill over the years by a few foolish posters.
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Old Aug 25, 2019, 03:44 PM   #3724
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I've been called a 3dfx shill, Ati shill and a Nvidia shill over the years by a few foolish posters.
If the shoe fits...considering you post exclusively in nvidia threads and you talk like a duck...that is until recently

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Old Aug 25, 2019, 03:51 PM   #3725
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Offering KAC search Google instead of first hand examples is lame. The performance context was a core of 2025 compared to 2100.
Hold on let me bring my PC to this airplane real quick.. are you dense?

The card has been out almost a year. My benches are the same as anyone else’s. Go look at stock 2080TI aftermarket cards. Most boost normally to 2000-2025. Then go look at an OC’d 2080TI. These numbers are not new or exclusive just have to have some initiative which KAC has shown he doesn’t have on a regular basis in more than just this thread.

I’m not some ****in slave that has to go make first hand benches for something obvious for a person with a clue
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Old Aug 25, 2019, 04:41 PM   #3726
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If the shoe fits...considering you post exclusively in nvidia threads and you talk like a duck...that is until recently

I would agree with posting about features that improve upon the gaming experience, quality of features, flexible tools, fidelity, go beyond numbers and benchmarks over the years. You have poor investigation skills Sherlock Holmes.
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Old Aug 25, 2019, 04:45 PM   #3727
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I would agree with posting about features that improve upon the gaming experience, quality of features, flexible tools, fidelity, go beyond numbers and benchmarks over the years. You have poor investigation skills Sherlock Holmes.
There's my gai back to his usual passive self ^_^

Now show me on the leather jacket where jensen toggled your bopper and made you a sour puss for nvidia doings >:E
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There's my gai back to his usual passive self ^_^

Now show me on the leather jacket where jensen toggled your bopper and made you a sour puss for nvidia doings >:E
Nunz hacked his account and was arguing with himself.
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Hold on let me bring my PC to this airplane real quick.. are you dense?

The card has been out almost a year. My benches are the same as anyone else’s. Go look at stock 2080TI aftermarket cards. Most boost normally to 2000-2025. Then go look at an OC’d 2080TI. These numbers are not new or exclusive just have to have some initiative which KAC has shown he doesn’t have on a regular basis in more than just this thread.

I’m not some ****in slave that has to go make first hand benches for something obvious for a person with a clue
My point without any emotion is the performance difference between a 2025 and 2100 core isn't going to noticeably change the gaming experience and more-so diminishing returns. You may disagree but it's my view.
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Figure out how to use google instead where the plethora of reviews and benchmarks have been readily available at your fingertips because the card has been out for over 10months.
What?????!!!!?? You can’t be serious!!! The card has been out for 10 months already?? How time flies.



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There's my gai back to his usual passive self ^_^

Now show me on the leather jacket where jensen toggled your bopper and made you a sour puss for nvidia doings >:E
I'll tell ya a Nvidia shill story: gaming on an Ati x1900 xtx CrossFire platform and discovered that it was tough to be gpu limited. Shared my findings at Beyond 3d and offered a diatribe about innovation is needed to offer new gpu limited experiences or the gpu may be irrelevant. I was mocked. No one likes to be mocked and actually hurt my feelings. Chris Ray reached out to me for the first time about my post that was mocked, he basically offered, Nvidia read your post and agree with it, they wanted you to know. That was my first contact from Nvidia and discovered they really read forums.
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What?????!!!!?? You can’t be serious!!! The card has been out for 10 months already?? How time flies.



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My point without any emotion is the performance difference between a 2025 and 2100 core isn't going to noticeably change the gaming experience and more-so diminishing returns. You may disagree but it's my view.
I said tell me 2025 to 2100 isn’t going to increase performance. At the end of the day it was friendly ribbing w/ demo that other people get involved who have no clue what they’re talking about.
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It's all good brah, I know you were just muckin around.
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It's a forum; posters get involved; they interject. You just did get frazzled and defensive when KAC offered, "e-stupidity."
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I called his post stupid and flamed him because what he posted was ****ing stupid
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Don’t get your panties in a bunch Nunz. It’s ok if you made a poor claim and are unable to back it up.
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Don’t get your panties in a bunch Nunz. It’s ok if you made a poor claim and are unable to back it up.
Or you could just go look at the bunch of benches already out. I don’t have time to bench stuff for you my dude. I barely even game as it is
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nunz was right tho, i just googled overclocking 2080 ti and first result was this

https://www.techspot.com/article/170...ing/page2.html


From those five games, including Shadow of the Tomb Raider that we looked at earlier, for the 2080 Ti we achieved a performance improvement of 14% on average compared to the stock clocks, and 10% compared to the Founders Edition clocks. For the RTX 2080 those margins were a little narrower: 11% over stock clocks and 9% over Founders Edition.

We’re pretty much running into a power limit here, looking at the design of the power delivery system on the FE cards there might be a bit more headroom available if Nvidia properly unlocked voltage controls, but this is as good as we’re getting from what we can configure at the moment.


seriously how hard was that?
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If you’re wondering about the actual clock speeds I achieved with the 2080 Ti, I was averaging around 1680 MHz in Shadow of the Tomb Raider with the stock clocks, 1770 MHz with the FE clocks, and 1980 MHz when overclocked, with a peak around 2100 MHz.
That's a difference of 210 MHz over the FE though [300 over the other card], but sure, point still stands.


I'm seeing roughly what they get under air [slightly higher at 2025]. I imagine a slight boost under water, perhaps 60MHz due to not dropping clocks from temps. Nothing to write home about.


As for power limits - my card 360W, Nunz 376W iirc.
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nunz was right tho, i just googled overclocking 2080 ti and first result was this

https://www.techspot.com/article/170...ing/page2.html


From those five games, including Shadow of the Tomb Raider that we looked at earlier, for the 2080 Ti we achieved a performance improvement of 14% on average compared to the stock clocks, and 10% compared to the Founders Edition clocks. For the RTX 2080 those margins were a little narrower: 11% over stock clocks and 9% over Founders Edition.

We’re pretty much running into a power limit here, looking at the design of the power delivery system on the FE cards there might be a bit more headroom available if Nvidia properly unlocked voltage controls, but this is as good as we’re getting from what we can configure at the moment.


seriously how hard was that?
The discussion was more in-depth or specific than an over-all overclocking article that can be easily found.

The context was this: performance difference between a core clocking of 2025 and 2100.

And I offered, "diminishing returns" and the reason was the performance gains are not going to noticeably change the experience.

Nunz did take offense to this by basically offering you don't know what you're talking about because you don't own a RTX 2080ti.

Then KAC and I offered, "prove it" meaning it isn't diminishing returns.
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KAC will buy the 2080Ti two months before the 3080Ti is released because he'll bitch and moan about the 3080Ti for all the same reasons he bitched and moaned about the 2080Ti at launch.
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He's passed on several good deals so at this point I doubt that he will.
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He's passed on several good deals so at this point I doubt that he will.

That 1080Ti is gonna be on its last legs in 2020, so he will need an upgrade to something. So he's gonna buy a 2080Ti (at full price ) after finding out the 3080ti will be too much for him, not worth the upgrade price over the 2080Ti for the performance, yada yada
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But hey, let us not forget that while you bemoan about how Hollywood is bending over backwards for that market, you're also asking them to simultaneously consider the 'delicate' sensibilities of those state side who need to see a flag plastered all over the place like some Michael Bay movie barfed into another equally worse Michael Bay movie that then **** into the mouth of the team who designs the Call of Duty campaigns with all of their red, white and blue awesomeness with such an overly large boner for America that one does not need to actually 'fly' to the moon, they simply could tight rope on top if it. And if you're concerned about whether or not that penis is strong enough to be load bearing for such a journey, you forget that what fills all of those engorged crevices is freedom.
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Old Aug 26, 2019, 12:42 PM   #3745
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People need to read. 2025 to 2100 can’t be that big of a difference. Nobody claimed that overclocking a 2080 Ti will not yield returns.

As for me buying a card. Need that game that requires it.
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These guys seems to think that the new freestyle filter>>>>>>dlss.
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DLSS still has more potential for the simple fact it uses a raw 4k reference image. Something no sharpening filter will ever achieve.

People need to realize "DLSS" is used in other industries outside of Nvidia/gaming. Specifically medical imaging, satellite imagery, and plain old photography. Any professional in these fields will tell you a sharpening filter, no matter how good, will not provide the same level of detail as deep learning super resolution. These AI farms exist within these industries for a reason.

Now, that still needs to translate into games. Perosnally I think Metro Exodus still handled this well and no need to use free style, DLSS is just better unless you wanna start micromanaging and pulling your hair out playing with resolution downsampling to use freestyle with.
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But hey, let us not forget that while you bemoan about how Hollywood is bending over backwards for that market, you're also asking them to simultaneously consider the 'delicate' sensibilities of those state side who need to see a flag plastered all over the place like some Michael Bay movie barfed into another equally worse Michael Bay movie that then **** into the mouth of the team who designs the Call of Duty campaigns with all of their red, white and blue awesomeness with such an overly large boner for America that one does not need to actually 'fly' to the moon, they simply could tight rope on top if it. And if you're concerned about whether or not that penis is strong enough to be load bearing for such a journey, you forget that what fills all of those engorged crevices is freedom.
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DLSS still has more potential for the simple fact it uses a raw 4k reference image. Something no sharpening filter will ever achieve.
"It's not real 4K!!"
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looks dlss is a fail and will be the next NV gimmick to disappear

wondered how long NV would keep up the resources and costs to do all the deep learning on each new game
and the answer is not long and it will be dead as a door nail by the 3080 ti release

thanks AMD Curses, foiled again!

4k freestyle does look better than 4k dlss and is almost as fast
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"It's not real 4K!!"
Those who love that quote should tell that to Google "but but... it's not real 4k! (or whatever)"

https://newatlas.com/google-raisr-im...olution/46434/

They should just tell Google to sharpen the image itself with just a sharpening filter.

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