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Old Jul 16, 2019, 03:53 PM   #571
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Sid loves to cherry pick the dramatic but he is not wrong with his extreme examples, yes Epic wants to make money. lol

He thinks that is shocking and wrong that Epic wants to make more money than Valve? That is silly. Why would a company not have that as a goal. "Lets not make money and lets for dang sure make less money than those guys over there because that would be bad."

He comes off as ignorant when he has other good points buried under the misplaced sentiment. Kind of like when people found out that Razor was not actual "by gamers for gamers" but actually a for profit company. Silly to see grown men crying on Twitter and Youtube.

Yes I want the crappy Epic store to improve and hopefully Sid can be part of making that happen but I still do not have my rose colored glasses for Valve and the random ban hammer on games they still have and the years it took their customer support to get to the point it is now. Which when you cherry pick like Sid, people still complain about.

But unless they fix the store it has been, how long, and the only games I buy here are the exclusives on extreme discount and collecting the free ones, which sounds like I will never get to play. lol
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Old Jul 16, 2019, 09:28 PM   #572
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Best case scenario; You buy a game and have a problem you need help with (stuck in the game, crashes, yada yada). You now have to goto the developers website and create an account for that ONE GAME and hope to find an answer on their forums. You now have to do this with other "best case scenario" games.

Worst case scenario; Game has problems you need answers to and they have no forums. Now you are screwed and have nowhere to turn except random places like reddit (which is hit or miss on pretty much everything).
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Worst case scenario; Game has problems you need answers to and they have no forums. Now you are screwed and have nowhere to turn except random places like reddit (which is hit or miss on pretty much everything).
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I hope this gets Epic to send the Email receipts. It is crazy not to do that, had no idea I was not getting one as I just assumed. (made an @$$ of U and me) lol

Glad Epic is working to fix this I looked and none of my early free games are listed. But they had been free and with no Email to show I purchased them and I had not installed them right away thee is no way to prove one way or another.

Not that I really care to much, as I have way to many games I never play already. But I do not think I am going to risk more money till I can get a receipt.
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I hope this gets Epic to send the Email receipts. It is crazy not to do that, had no idea I was not getting one as I just assumed. (made an @$$ of U and me) lol

Glad Epic is working to fix this I looked and none of my early free games are listed. But they had been free and with no Email to show I purchased them and I had not installed them right away thee is no way to prove one way or another.

Not that I really care to much, as I have way to many games I never play already. But I do not think I am going to risk more money till I can get a receipt.
Epic has always sent out receipt emails for any game purchased. They just didn't send out emails for any of the free games. I have bought 3 games from Epic over the months, and I have email receipts for all of them.

Also the purchase history now shows all purchase history, previously it was set to display only the last 90 days, so Epic changed the display setting to all instead of 90 days.
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I contacted Epic support about some of these missing games. I stated all the first 5 or 6 games were missing from my library but then realised it's probably only 3 or 4 as I couldn't be arsed grabbing some of the pixelated games...oops.

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All of my games still exist. Because of this though, I've started the installation process for Subnautica, World of Goo, and Slime Rancher. All games that I think my kids will play on the account when they're old enough. My hope is that once you're 'registered' as installing a game, it will treat your account differently and not delete any games, or at the very least the games that you've installed.
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"You'd be forgiven if you didn't notice that The Sinking City released last month. To find it on the Epic Store, you have to scroll past 15 big images promoting other games, some of which aren't even out yet, or search for it specifically. I'm not sure that's what developers who flocked to the store were hoping for..."


I'm not an EGS hater (I just hate having so many launchers), but was surprised to see they have over 100 games already and how their storefront makes 100 games seem as bad as Steam's 34,000.

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Picked up the latest free game off Epic, lo and behold a receipt for the claim was emailed.
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Old Jul 19, 2019, 05:02 PM   #582
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How much, in US dollars, were some developing countries paying Steam? I know some of the Aussies on here have been paying considerably more (no I'm not saying that's a developing country!)
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Depends where in the world. In the places I've visited not that much more than US citizens. Maybe 75 bucks for a 60 dollar title. (60 to Steam, and about 10-15 to the bank/government tax)

The problem was that 75 bucks might convert to say 1,000 of their local dollar, which might be a weekly salary for a middle class person. EGS game store stepped in and said to those countries, "ok how about 20 bucks or 250 local dollars for the title so you can afford it. We'll pay the devs the difference and you don't need to pirate anymore".
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Oh that's good. No sense in making games unaffordable. Also, it seems like that means there's ACTUAL competition going on for games on multiple platforms. This is what I'm interested in seeing.

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Honestly one of the worst **** about the Epic Store is the password policy. First it won't let me use my normal password because it was "compromised" somewhere. Then I promptly forget WTF I used for a password instead, and now when I try to reset my password it won't let me set it to one of my last five passwords. So now I have to use another random password.

Seriously, **** this password protection strategy, just let me use whatever insecure password I want. If I can't remember the damn password then wtf is the point?
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Just do the 'forgot password' thing each time you need to log in.
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Honestly one of the worst **** about the Epic Store is the password policy. First it won't let me use my normal password because it was "compromised" somewhere. Then I promptly forget WTF I used for a password instead, and now when I try to reset my password it won't let me set it to one of my last five passwords. So now I have to use another random password.

Seriously, **** this password protection strategy, just let me use whatever insecure password I want. If I can't remember the damn password then wtf is the point?
You got a mobile phone? Write that shite down in password keeper or some such. Worse write it in notes.
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Honestly one of the worst **** about the Epic Store is the password policy. First it won't let me use my normal password because it was "compromised" somewhere. Then I promptly forget WTF I used for a password instead, and now when I try to reset my password it won't let me set it to one of my last five passwords. So now I have to use another random password.

Seriously, **** this password protection strategy, just let me use whatever insecure password I want. If I can't remember the damn password then wtf is the point?
You can blame all the Fortnite players who do what you do for passwords, had their accounts hacked due to that and then blame Epic for having a security breach, cause none of the account holders are wanting to take responsibility, and now we see all over thw internet of accusing Epic for being insecure even though it was the users an fault.
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Doesn't people say that they're unsecure because they lacked 2FA back then?
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You can blame all the Fortnite players who do what you do for passwords, had their accounts hacked due to that and then blame Epic for having a security breach, cause none of the account holders are wanting to take responsibility, and now we see all over thw internet of accusing Epic for being insecure even though it was the users an fault.
more like epic didnt have 2 factor authorization like every other launcher/game-store ...

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No, talking about now.

They implemented the 2FA over a year ago, yet people still getting hacked now because they are not using it, using the same passwords as other sites, or falling for social engineering by giving their credentials through a "fake" website to get free or discounted Fortnite currency. And people still blame Epic for all of that.

Not much Epic can do on the side of social engineering, but at least they can help people not to have passwords that are already compromised, since they are being blamed for something that really isn't their fault to begin with.
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I mean the best course of action to stop exclusivity is to just not buy those games on epic and instead buy games that are not exclusive.

The ooblets subreddit just deleted all threads for the last 24 hrs, and I think it's run by the devs themselves, so that's pathetic.
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They brought that on themselves. It's one thing to opt for the money up front via exclusivity. It's quite another thing to be a patronizing douche about it.
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Old Aug 5, 2019, 07:47 AM   #597
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Glumberland has received "thousands if not tens of thousands" of threats as a result of signing an exclusivity deal with the Epic Games Store.

The indie studio -- which is just two people, Rebecca Cordingley and Ben Wasser -- announced that it had signed a temporary PC exclusivity deal for Ooblets last week.

The terms of the deal effectively covered Glumberland's sales forecast across all storefronts, allowing the small studio to raise its ambitions and bring in help without worrying about commercial failure.

The UK developer anticipated some backlash, publishing a blog post that explained its reasoning and addressed the most common complaints with the Epic Games Store's divisive exclusivity strategy. It also tweeted: "Okay, so we did the thing! The thing people get angry about. But maybe don't get angry about it?"

People did get angry about it, and to a degree that shocked Glumberland's co-founders.

"We really misjudged how angry so many people would be," Cordingley and Wasser said in a message to the Ooblets Patreon community.

"This whole thing has just devastated us. We've been getting thousands if not tens of thousands of hateful, threatening messages across every possible platform nonstop. It's especially hurtful since we've had such a positive, supportive relationship with our audience throughout development."

The Patreon community has also been the source of messages of support, Glumberland said, but the intensity of the response was such that "I have been crying nonstop for the last two days and feeling like the world has collapsed around me."
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Old Aug 5, 2019, 08:54 AM   #598
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People sending threats are a bunch of fat ****ing pussies. Developers are free to do what you want, same as the consumer is free to be pissed and not buy it, but sending threats? Billy the 350lb ****ing sloth telling you to kill yourself shouldn’t matter much.

I do understand how it must feel to be close to your consumer audience and have a good rapport, and then have that ruined by a decision that doesn’t technically have an affect on the development or design of the game. That has to be frustrating.

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People sending threats are a bunch of fat ****ing pussies. Developers are free to do what you want, same as the consumer is free to be pissed and not buy it...

Exactly. A free market never stipulated using threats if you didn't like something. You just don't buy it. Plain and simple.
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