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Old Sep 9, 2019, 09:09 PM   #1
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Default 2019 LG OLED's to get G-Sync

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I am a few days away from getting my 65" LG OLED and today and announcement came out that it will get a firmware update to enable G-SYNC support.

"We are excited to bring G-SYNC Compatible support to LG's 2019 OLED TVs and HDMI Variable Refresh Rate support to our GeForce RTX 20-Series GPUs."

LG Adding G-sync to 2019 OLED Models
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Old Sep 9, 2019, 10:07 PM   #2
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That is indeed tight. What refresh though?
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Old Sep 9, 2019, 10:18 PM   #3
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That is indeed tight. What refresh though?
1440p at 120Hz and 4K at 60Hz with current video cards. Since it already has HDMI 2.1 ports though, it will be able to handle [email protected] with HDR as well as 8K. Just need Nvidia to release HDMI 2.1 cards.

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1440p at 120Hz and 4K at 60Hz with current video cards. Since it already has HDMI 2.1 ports though, it will be able to handle [email protected] with HDR as well as 8K. Just need Nvidia to release HDMI 2.1 cards.
they need to release drivers to do G-SYNC and freesync over HDMI at all or maybe a card bios
it is displayport only right now I think still

and wonder if it will work with AMD as there is no G-SYNC chip it just a firmware patch this has to be freesync basically and AMD already does freesync over HDMI




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Due to be added via firmware upgrade to LG’s E9, C9 and B9 2019 OLED TV series

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what about oled burn in on a windows screen ?

wonder if "5-Year Standard Geek Squad Protection" covers oled burn in


if I was sure it would " be able to handle [email protected] with HDR " soon or even with a 3080 ti Q1 next year I would buy it soon

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Nvidia will add the HDMI support in a driver update simultaneously with the TVs getting a G-SYNC compatible firmware update from LG.

Here is the Nvidia press release that mentions this:

LG’s Big-Screen 4K OLED TVs First To Be Validated For Superior G-SYNC Compatible Gaming
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Old Sep 9, 2019, 11:50 PM   #6
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Nvidia will add the HDMI support in a driver update simultaneously with the TVs getting a G-SYNC compatible firmware update from LG.

Here is the Nvidia press release that mentions this:

LG’s Big-Screen 4K OLED TVs First To Be Validated For Superior G-SYNC Compatible Gaming
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If you don’t own a LG TV, but do own a display or TV that only supports Variable Refresh Rates via HDMI, you can try enabling HDMI VRR when the aforementioned driver is released. As these displays and TVs haven’t yet been through our comprehensive validation process, we can’t guarantee VRR will work, or work without issue
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LG can’t yet put an exact date on when the NVIDIA G-Sync support update will roll out to its compatible OLED TVs; only that it will arrive on the E9 and C9 first (before the end of the year) and the B9s at a later date.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarc.../#36faa814dced

so the B9's may not get it till next year

won't buy one till it has it and if that late maybe better to wait for all the 2020 TV's to hit

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Old Sep 10, 2019, 07:07 AM   #7
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Wish my freesync TV supported gsync..
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they need to release drivers to do G-SYNC and freesync over HDMI at all or maybe a card bios
it is displayport only right now I think still

and wonder if it will work with AMD as there is no G-SYNC chip it just a firmware patch this has to be freesync basically and AMD already does freesync over HDMI






https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-55-c...?skuId=6360612


what about oled burn in on a windows screen ?

wonder if "5-Year Standard Geek Squad Protection" covers oled burn in


if I was sure it would " be able to handle [email protected] with HDR " soon or even with a 3080 ti Q1 next year I would buy it soon
I use my OLED for only gaming with my PC, otherwise desktop stuff etc is on the monitor.
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Old Sep 11, 2019, 01:27 PM   #9
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I use my OLED for only gaming with my PC, otherwise desktop stuff etc is on the monitor.
I got a 55" 4k tv and a 40" 4k monitor in my office I would like to combine them into one big 55" screen

I don't know how bad OLED burn-in is now with 2019 tv
but what I can find best buy 5 year warranty does cover OLED burn-in

so deal with it for 4 years and let them replace it the last year

hopefully they will fix OLED burn-in at some point
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I got a 55" 4k tv and a 40" 4k monitor in my office I would like to combine them into one big 55" screen

I don't know how bad OLED burn-in is now with 2019 tv
but what I can find best buy 5 year warranty does cover OLED burn-in

so deal with it for 4 years and let them replace it the last year

hopefully they will fix OLED burn-in at some point
OLED phosphors degrade through use... no way around it.
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What's the difference between G-SYNC Capable and G-SYNC Compatible? I know one is the "real deal" while the other isn't but is there a difference in how well each performs?
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What's the difference between G-SYNC Capable and G-SYNC Compatible? I know one is the "real deal" while the other isn't but is there a difference in how well each performs?
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Supposedly, DP->HDMI2.1 adapters are being worked on. Who knows if they will see the light of day or not.

I use my LG OLED55B7 as my desktop display. I have not seen burn-in issues yet however it could happen eventually. I run no desktop icons, taskbar, and a black wallpaper with dark theme as much as I can.

The TV looks excellent with games and has the best PQ I've ever had in any TV or display. I do miss having a wallpaper though.

The newer LG TVs support VRR but it's unclear to me what exactly the GSync announcement actually means. With GPUs unable to output the necessary bandwidth for 4k120hz 4:4:4 HDR10 I'm not sure how this matters if that is what you're after.
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Supposedly, DP->HDMI2.1 adapters are being worked on. Who knows if they will see the light of day or not.

I use my LG OLED55B7 as my desktop display. I have not seen burn-in issues yet however it could happen eventually. I run no desktop icons, taskbar, and a black wallpaper with dark theme as much as I can.

The TV looks excellent with games and has the best PQ I've ever had in any TV or display. I do miss having a wallpaper though.

The newer LG TVs support VRR but it's unclear to me what exactly the GSync announcement actually means. With GPUs unable to output the necessary bandwidth for 4k120hz 4:4:4 HDR10 I'm not sure how this matters if that is what you're after.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14535...i-21-converter

I think we will see hdmi 2.1 cards first

I had to use a displayport active adapter at one point for 2560x1600
they are a pain in the ass always displayport link failures


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Note that Nvidia's Matt Wuebbling, head of GeForce marketing, stated that HDMI VRR support was only coming to RTX 20 series graphics cards. No mention of GTX 16 series graphics cards has been made in Nvidia's announcement. Remember that all GTX 16-series GPUs are Turing-based and are less than a year old. HDMI VRR support will release with a new Geforce driver, where we expect to learn more about the limitations of Nvidia's VRR support.
https://www.overclock3d.net/news/gpu..._series_gpus/1

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I really loved the picture of my 55" 1080P OLED which I had for about a year, used it as my Desktop monitor and while there was image retention it never got to burn in at that point. Cat broke it and that was the end of that. Bought a Samsung KS8500 65" as I was unwilling to pay the extra 1k for the 4K OLED at the time and wanted a bigger screen. Still a bit leery of the burn-in factor as it definitely is a thing as proven by rtings. Since I use my display as a PC monitor I still may opt for a high end LCD TV as long as it has 2.1 support which not many to none do right now. Also another reason to wait for the 3080 as I would hope Nvidia will support it with this card.
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The newer LG TVs support VRR but it's unclear to me what exactly the GSync announcement actually means. With GPUs unable to output the necessary bandwidth for 4k120hz 4:4:4 HDR10 I'm not sure how this matters if that is what you're after.
They can do 4k @98hz 4:4:4 though or [email protected] 4:2:2 which supposedly you can't tell the difference in games but I play @98hz. With G-Sync, I wouldn't notice the difference between 98 and 120 any way.
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I picked up a cable off monoprice so I'm ready when I do end up getting a TV and gpu to support this. Most likely, will end up getting the TV first and wait until I can get a GPU that supports HDMI 2.1 and not just VRR over 2.0.

For people who are concerned about the burn-in factor, which is improved but still possible, the TCL 8 series with mini LED may be a good alternative. Not sure if it supports HDMI 2.1 though.
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I picked up a cable off monoprice so I'm ready when I do end up getting a TV and gpu to support this. Most likely, will end up getting the TV first and wait until I can get a GPU that supports HDMI 2.1 and not just VRR over 2.0.

For people who are concerned about the burn-in factor, which is improved but still possible, the TCL 8 series with mini LED may be a good alternative. Not sure if it supports HDMI 2.1 though.
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https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1565874061

only LG has full HDMI 2.1 this year as far is I know
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I think next year for a new HDMI 2.1 screen and a 3080 ti maybe a AMD card also

they should all have VRR next year and both NV and AMD should work with it by then
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Yah so far it's just OLED and I think that highest end Samsung QLED.

The 5700XT aftermarket cards like the ROG and Nitro+ are intriguing to me. Would be a minor step down in speed vs. my Radeon VII at the advantage of better noise and thermals.

No HDMI 2.1 though and so far only Gsync has any compatibility with the few HDMI 2.1 enabled TVs you can get. And even then, that hasn't actually happened yet it's just an announcement.

Very off putting and difficult to justify switching GPUs atm.
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Yah so far it's just OLED and I think that highest end Samsung QLED.

The 5700XT aftermarket cards like the ROG and Nitro+ are intriguing to me. Would be a minor step down in speed vs. my Radeon VII at the advantage of better noise and thermals.

No HDMI 2.1 though and so far only Gsync has any compatibility with the few HDMI 2.1 enabled TVs you can get. And even then, that hasn't actually happened yet it's just an announcement.

Very off putting and difficult to justify switching GPUs atm.
freesync works on all the most newer Samsung's over hdmi 2.0 2018 and newer
https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00079940/
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Wish my freesync TV supported gsync..
These LG TV's will be Gsync COMPATIBLE which means they are basically adaptive sync and NOT proprietary NV Gsync modules. Technically an AMD card and driver should work also if AMD decide to support it.
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These LG TV's will be Gsync COMPATIBLE which means they are basically adaptive sync and NOT proprietary NV Gsync modules. Technically an AMD card and driver should work also if AMD decide to support it.
Not without paying nVidia no? Or did G-Sync go actually free?
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Not without paying nVidia no? Or did G-Sync go actually free?
G-sync compatible is just what they call their support for VRR. Their is no G-sync chip.
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