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Old Oct 17, 2004, 01:21 PM   #361
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My local NBC affiliate broadcasts digital SD upconverted to 1080i in 16:9 widescreen. It's not true HD, but looks noticeably better than their normal stretched 480i feed.
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Old Oct 17, 2004, 04:14 PM   #362
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ATI Technologies Export required

The .vcr files are not playable by anything other than the library.
You have to save the file in HD MPEG format if you want to watch the content as it was originally recorded.

Export DTV recording using Library



Just export with full DTV resolution



Select were to place the new MPEG file



Export is quick but may take some time with a large capture.



Now we can play the file.

Display size is set to 50% in this example.



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Went through two aborted installs, one clean with new files, one clean with CD. The first claimed it couldn't find the hardware, the second blue screened and I couldn't load Windows until I did a system restore.

Finally got the new files to go on by deleting all the yellow exclamation points in device manager and pointing Windows to the WDM drivers on reboot.

ATI really should be ashamed, I've been doing this dance with their drivers since my first Mach 64 card. Once the software installs, the cards work great.

On to my current problem. DTV reception is fine, and I can record manually with good results.

Last night I recorded all four hours of the NASCAR race. This morning I find 18 gigs of .vcr files in my MMC folder, and the library contains an entry for "NBC12 HD Movie" corresponding to the start time.

But the player gives me an errors, saying the file can't be opened. In the MMC folder are numbered .vcr files. All are grayed out except the first, which is the smallest at 3kb. Double-clicking on any of them gives me an error.

Any suggestions on how to salvage or convert this recording?
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Old Oct 17, 2004, 04:29 PM   #363
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Thanks.

I'm pretty sure the file got corrupted somehow, it won't play and it's not giving me any export option.

I'll try again with today's Skins game.
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Old Oct 17, 2004, 08:12 PM   #364
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Im very pleased with my purchase, and i love this card/remote to death.. the only problem is, I can't seem to get ABC.. The first night I was able to see Jimmy Kimmel Live, but now when I go to ABC( past 3 days ) I get a "no signal" read.. my attena arrangement changed, but i've rotated it in all directions and still don't get squat..

anyone else in Cincinnati?
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Old Oct 17, 2004, 09:38 PM   #365
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Could someone send small sample?

Hey, I've been looking at getting one of these and would like to test to see what programs work with the HDTV file format (Like Nero and Vegas in particular). If anyone could send me a file like under 20mb or in increments of 20mb I would really appreciate it. If it has Dolby Digital 5.1 sound even better. I'm guessing most programs will accept normal 720x480 MPEG2 created from the ATI software so I'd like to try a larger one either from a 720p or 1080i stream if possible. Thanks alot everyone. I've looked over all the pages of this post and have learned alot about HDTV wonder.

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Old Oct 18, 2004, 12:26 PM   #366
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Funny, I'm having problems doing just that.

I have no "layout" button in Media Library, so I can't burn DVDs directly from the ATI software. I tried a manual install of AuthorScript from the SAS folder on the CD and get an "ATI card not found" error. Of course I have two of them in my PC, the HDTV Wonder and a Radeon 9700 Pro. Clean installs (and reinstalls) of the updated drivers and MMC don't give me the error, but no joy either.

Meanwhile Nero doesn't want to open or transcode my files when exported either as HD MPEG or High-Quality DVD.

Two questions:

Anybody know how to force the install of AuthorScript?

Are there simple directions for burning a DVD with Nero or a workaround for this file issue?
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Old Oct 18, 2004, 02:28 PM   #367
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Default dtv did not initialize

Still trying to install my hdtv without reformatting and I get the "dtv did not initialize". When I run system check it tells me the capture drivers are not installed but in device manager the capture drivers are listed with no yellow marks. Any ideas?
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Old Oct 18, 2004, 07:56 PM   #368
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http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/4586.html

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HDTV WONDER - DTV Player Failed to Initialize the Video error message

The information in this article applies to the following system 
configurations:

        * HDTV WONDER
        * Windows XP
        * DTV Player

In certain environments, the following error may occur upon 
starting the DTV Player:

"DTV Player failed to initialize the video"

TV Player (running analog TV) is not affected.

It is believed that this issue occurs should Windows XP Service 
Pack 1 not be installed prior to the installation of software from 
the HDTV WONDER installation CD. 
It is highly recommended that Service Pack 1 be installed first. 
There is also a required DTV fix to address DTV Player that must 
be installed.

In addition, to allow for full functionality of the HDTV Wonder product, 
a DirectX 9.0 hardware compliant display card is required. For example, 
a RADEON 9500 series product or higher. Please check with your graphics
card manufacturer to confirm if your display card is DirectX 9.0 hardware
compliant.

Users have reported the following steps to correct this issue:

       1. Ensure to upgrade to Windows XP Service Pack 1
       2. Uninstall ATI Multimedia Center from Add/Remove Programs
       3. Run the CUSTOM SETUP off of the installation CD, 
           and select ONLY the DTVQFE from the list. 
            Restart when prompted.
       4. Run the full install (EASY SETUP) from the installation CD.

Users have reported the following steps to correct this issue:

        * Install the DTV Decoder manually using the following steps:
              o Browse the CD to the Install\Decoder folder
              o Double click on the Setup file to start the install

INFO-BASE# 4586
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Still trying to install my hdtv without reformatting and I get the "dtv did not initialize". When I run system check it tells me the capture drivers are not installed but in device manager the capture drivers are listed with no yellow marks. Any ideas?
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Old Oct 19, 2004, 12:32 PM   #369
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also anyone find a fast MPEG2 transcoder ala DVD2one/dvdshrink(or rejig?) that work with the ATI's HDTV mpeg2 format? Most of the transcoder I tried tend to crash although it may have to do with the artificats problem I mention above? since Small(couple seconds) recording the exported to HDTV MPEG2 seem to get transcoded ok...
I convert all my shows into 720p Xvid using Xmpeg.


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Old Oct 19, 2004, 08:11 PM   #370
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16:9 and Dolby Digital 5.1

I have a couple brief questions that I've had trouble finding the answer to.

1. Is the 16:9 aspect ratio preserved when creating DVD file from ATI software? I read a review that said the software automatically converted to 4:3 but I thought someone said newer version of software fixed this.

2. Is Dolby Digital 5.1 sound preserved on HDTV recordings, DVDs burned from ATI software, and MPEGs exported from ATI software? I would like to have this original 5.1 sound on m home theater setup after burning my hdtv clips to DVD.

Thanks alot.
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Old Oct 20, 2004, 03:32 PM   #371
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Quote:
Originally Posted by grog
http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/4586.html

Code:
HDTV WONDER - DTV Player Failed to Initialize the Video error message

The information in this article applies to the following system 
configurations:

        * HDTV WONDER
        * Windows XP
        * DTV Player

In certain environments, the following error may occur upon 
starting the DTV Player:

"DTV Player failed to initialize the video"

TV Player (running analog TV) is not affected.

It is believed that this issue occurs should Windows XP Service 
Pack 1 not be installed prior to the installation of software from 
the HDTV WONDER installation CD. 
It is highly recommended that Service Pack 1 be installed first. 
There is also a required DTV fix to address DTV Player that must 
be installed.

In addition, to allow for full functionality of the HDTV Wonder product, 
a DirectX 9.0 hardware compliant display card is required. For example, 
a RADEON 9500 series product or higher. Please check with your graphics
card manufacturer to confirm if your display card is DirectX 9.0 hardware
compliant.

Users have reported the following steps to correct this issue:

       1. Ensure to upgrade to Windows XP Service Pack 1
       2. Uninstall ATI Multimedia Center from Add/Remove Programs
       3. Run the CUSTOM SETUP off of the installation CD, 
           and select ONLY the DTVQFE from the list. 
            Restart when prompted.
       4. Run the full install (EASY SETUP) from the installation CD.

Users have reported the following steps to correct this issue:

        * Install the DTV Decoder manually using the following steps:
              o Browse the CD to the Install\Decoder folder
              o Double click on the Setup file to start the install

INFO-BASE# 4586
Greg
Tried that fix before I posted and it hasn't worked.
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It's been 3 days of non-stop trying to get the HDTV Wonder to work. I was having freezes and crashing because of the High CPU (99%) due to MMC. I read somewhere else to use Catalyst 4.6. I tried it and now the CPU load is about 20% to 40%. Will check tonight to see if primetime HDTV runs smooth. I was using the latest CAT 4.10 which crash the system when a broadcast of 1080i would come on.


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Asus A7N8XE-Deluxe
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Capture Drive (4 ATA133 Maxtors in Raid 0 mode)
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Old Oct 21, 2004, 03:28 PM   #373
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Thumbs up Finally works for me

Well, it has taken a full week of tweeking, system is finally working. Quick specs:

(Pretty modest system)

Intel 845GRG with P4 @ 1.8ghz
512 MB RAM
HD Wonder
GeForce 4/440MX (64 Megs AGP)
19" Monitor
New Aria "Cube" case

Only PCI in the system:
HDTV Wonder
VIA Firewire card

I will go over my experience which differs in some areas, but mimics other's experiences.

Started with a clean install.
Downloaded and installed latest "Nvidia" drivers. - Reboot
Popped HDTV card in and powered up. On logging in, allowed new hardware wizard to install correct drivers for PCI card from original CD.
Used the ATI installation CD in "advanced" mode. Loaded EVERYTHING.
Once system was finished with that (2 cups of coffee later), installed the 4 files provided on ATIs website (in order). Rebooted.

When things came back up, loaded DTV app. Like expected, it found all my channels (12). In the wizard, specified a 30 minute limit on the buffer. Selected the drive for that buffer, etc. Now the card works like a charm.

Okay, that sounded TOO easy, right? well that's just what I did after 2 days of pulling my hair out trying to install this thing. Being a long time ATI customer , I knew what to expect in terms of a nightmarish install. First things I did to reduce this:

1. Video card: Raise the performance quality in "properties" (mhz, of course!) - it's screamin for a 440.
2. MOST IMPORTANT!!!! Install 2nd hard drive: Exclusive hard drive on secondary IDE BY ITSELF. This is the drive I specify in my buffer settings. No matter how many ways I tried, video is choppy when it shares the hard drive with the system folders. Save yourself HOURS of headache, and make sure you place an isolated high speed hard drive on your system. I bet that well over 50% of you will reduce the choppiness. This is a trick from my old AIW, trying to capture AVI!

3. For the other 50%, there is something else wrong. Let me tell you a story about my ATI Video cards. I have an AIW Radeon (not even 7500, the original 7100 with ONLY 32MB DDR, by-the-way). Pop it in (with drivers on HDwonder CD), it works FINE! Purchased the Radeon 9600se from CC yesterday. Popped it in, screwed around with drivers for 2 hours (old, new, original, etc). No go. studdering like crazy. Couldn't get it to work to save my life. Well, put the Nvidia back in, back in heaven....good picture quality at 100%.

Now - realize that I don't get down that low in CPU Usage - while recording (well, anytime it's running), I am at 50% - 70%. Not bad (high enough that opening a new application "pauses" the Wonder. However, I can use the web with HDTV in the background in "medium" view. Additionally, the AIW Radeon is at about the same CPU speed, so I wonder if the card really makes that much of a difference? Like I said, the 9600se was choppy as heck, and still (again) around 70% CPU. Hmmm. All figures are for true 1080i res, not 480i

If I get bored, I might find out how it works in the old Duron 1ghz with 512 RAM. Rather - if I am insane enough to take it out of a working system!

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

TJD

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Old Oct 22, 2004, 02:34 AM   #374
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I suggest using a RAID 0 setup to capture the video.
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Old Oct 22, 2004, 11:11 AM   #375
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I just got my MCE 2005 rig up and running. Now that its available publically, I thought I'd give it a shot.

My initial impression is that MCE 2005 seems very polished indeed. My AIW 9700pro tuner isn't supported out of the box (don't have the "encode" drivers, I hadn't intended to use the AIW, its awaiting the X800XT I have on order)

I'm using the HDTV Wonder and dual eHome Wonder cards (one with FM) and they are supported (windows update has the HDTV Patch). I use the YPbPr output to my Widescreen display where I run MCE (It works on the secondary screen fine...but you lose your mouse for the Primary screen (My CRT) big bummer here for using your PC and MCE at the same time)

So far I'm impressed. The PQ is very good both with HD, and the analog tuners (haven't tried the analog tuner on the HDTV Wonder yet however)
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Do you have any pics or screenshots?

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MCE 2005
Here's a shot of the Program Info page (check out the original air date!)
eHome Wonder(x2) + HDTV Wonder


Let me know if there's ashot you want to see specifically
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MCE 2005
Here's a shot of the Program Guide Showing SDTV and DTV listings
eHome Wonder(x2) + HDTV Wonder
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Got tuner? I do LOL

MCE 2005
Here's a shot of my backplate
AIW 9700pro + eHome Wonder(x2) + HDTV Wonder
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Stacked tuners
AIW 9700pro + eHome Wonder(x2) + HDTV Wonder
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OMG

Great setup there....... Really great setup!!!!

OMG-OMG

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Great setup there....... Really great setup!!!!

OMG-OMG

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MCE 2005
eHome Wonder(x2) + HDTV Wonder

Recording 2 analog + 1 digital at once. The DTV was SD however. I'll check my cpu use next time. All 3 recordings came out nice, good audio and in sync. The PQ is really nice even on the analog as well. The skip feature is great, it really works nice to blow through the commerials.
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Here's a screenshot from Cops.
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Here's a screenshot from RealTV (these are the 3 that were recording together)
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Old Oct 22, 2004, 08:21 PM   #386
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Ehhh. You have 4 analog tuners and one hdtv tuner in your machine.(all ati!) lol. Amazing post rbv5. Decisions decisions decisions. (I get my 2000/xp/server2003 for free from my university but not mce 2005)

Any chance you could check to see if the analog part of the hdtv wonder works in mce 2005? Secondly I know you said a windows update for mce2005 gives support for the hdtv wonder. Did you install any ati hdtv drivers before the windows update?

BTW - Additional props for posting all of this.

Postscript - Additional, additional props for posting all of this.
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Old Oct 22, 2004, 08:42 PM   #387
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Here's the shot from Anderson Cooper.
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Any chance you could check to see if the analog part of the hdtv wonder works in mce 2005? Secondly I know you said a windows update for mce2005 gives support for the hdtv wonder. Did you install any ati hdtv drivers before the windows update?
Yes, first when I booted up, I put the HDTV Wonder Install CD when it asked for drivers..then to Windows update. I'll test the analog tuner on HDTV Wonder.
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Alright. The analog tuner of the HDTV Wonder does not work with MCE, HOWEVER, both The analog tuner and the AIW tuners work with amcap!! (and I'm sure any other direct show application)

So basically, every tuner is up and running on my rig.
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Alright. The analog tuner of the HDTV Wonder does not work with MCE, HOWEVER, both The analog tuner and the AIW tuners work with amcap!! (and I'm sure any other direct show application) So basically, every tuner is up and running on my rig.
Answers on demand. I kind of like this. Thanks for checking this out for me. There may be another person on the block with mce2005, an hdtv wonder, and an ehome wonder in a few weeks. Again thanks.
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Answers on demand. I kind of like this. Thanks for checking this out for me. There may be another person on the block with mce2005, an hdtv wonder, and an ehome wonder in a few weeks. Again thanks.
I'd wait for the Theatrix, or another card with Theater 550 if I didn't already have the eHome wonder cards since they should be here soon. I did get one OEM and the other refurbed, so I've got about $110 US into both cards..not bad for 2 analog + FM tuners and they do work well however.

My 350watt enermax is doing quite well powering the whole thing I might add, I also have 3 hardrives and a NEC DVD Burner in the mix.
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