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Old Jun 14, 2011, 07:49 AM   #901
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Old Jun 14, 2011, 09:26 AM   #902
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Doh, "3D Spotting" seems to be in again then, which is rubbish frankly.

I just don't get it, why shove that into the game? Did the thousands of BF2 players say, "y'know, this whole map-spotting thing is great, but what we really need is a big red finger to come down from the sky and actually point to where the enemies are on the landscape". I don't think so.

For me its just another nail in the coffin. I'm still interested, but my interest is being eroded. I know its been said before, but BF3 looks more like BC3 to me.
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Doh, "3D Spotting" seems to be in again then, which is rubbish frankly.

I just don't get it, why shove that into the game? Did the thousands of BF2 players say, "y'know, this whole map-spotting thing is great, but what we really need is a big red finger to come down from the sky and actually point to where the enemies are on the landscape". I don't think so.

For me its just another nail in the coffin. I'm still interested, but my interest is being eroded. I know its been said before, but BF3 looks more like BC3 to me.
what don't you like about it? i like that feature, especially when choppah gunning. just aim below the red finger not to mention shooting people through smoke and obstructions.
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Is it too much to hope that such will be limited to beginner mode?

Also, what is Herr Hitler's mention of dinosaurs in reference to?

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Dinosaurs as always is the pretty please with the cherry on top. You know when you get dinos you have an ubah game.
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Doh, "3D Spotting" seems to be in again then, which is rubbish frankly.

I just don't get it, why shove that into the game? Did the thousands of BF2 players say, "y'know, this whole map-spotting thing is great, but what we really need is a big red finger to come down from the sky and actually point to where the enemies are on the landscape". I don't think so.

For me its just another nail in the coffin. I'm still interested, but my interest is being eroded. I know its been said before, but BF3 looks more like BC3 to me.
Spotting is a communication feature.

You press Q on a medic and your player asks for medical assistance.
You press Q on assault and he asks for ammo.
You press Q on a vehicle and he asks for a ride.
You press Q on an enemy player or vehicle and he says "enemy spotted" with an icon that lasts for a couple seconds. Pretty simple really and very beneficial for team play, I think its a great feature.

Much better than screaming on the mic over 32 screaming kids "Hes over there behind the tree!!1!" "Which Tree?" "The Tree to the left!!!1!" "Dont see him!" "No further to the left!!1!!" etc. Not to mention you couldnt type enemy positions quick enough in battle either.

Great feature I'm glad they kept it. It would be better if the icon didnt track the player though imo and just stayed at the position where the enemy was at the time they were spotted.
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Bf 2 had spotting of some sort it worked the way hardcore servers work now with bc2 with enemies only showing up on the map and not on your main screen, I like it working that way the whole 3d in your face wall hack style spotting just doesn't feel right.
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I like the idea of 3D spotting - it makes up for the inherent lack of communication between players.

However I don't think it should be a live GPS tracking system. IMO, it would be perfect if it was a 5 second static marker that fades out; it remains on the initial spot location and can be updated by a spot from a different player.
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Counter Strike BBQ Source does it best, when spotted the mini map only shows the last know location and not actual location, and it only shows on the mini map and not the main screen.
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I didn't mind the spotting so much in BC2, on one hand it's noobtastic but on the other hand it means you don't have to look at the damn minimap constantly. Maybe if they had a static 3D marker? I still think it's better to have the comm rose in the game though.

Also the lack of regen health when surrounded by enemies or under fire is a good thing. Not as great as no regen but it's a compromise from BC2. Hated running across the map under fire to heal a guy and get there and he's already healed when I get there :/
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Spotting is a communication feature.

You press Q on a medic and your player asks for medical assistance.
You press Q on assault and he asks for ammo.
You press Q on a vehicle and he asks for a ride.
You press Q on an enemy player or vehicle and he says "enemy spotted" with an icon that lasts for a couple seconds. Pretty simple really and very beneficial for team play, I think its a great feature.

Much better than screaming on the mic over 32 screaming kids "Hes over there behind the tree!!1!" "Which Tree?" "The Tree to the left!!!1!" "Dont see him!" "No further to the left!!1!!" etc. Not to mention you couldnt type enemy positions quick enough in battle either.

Great feature I'm glad they kept it. It would be better if the icon didnt track the player though imo and just stayed at the position where the enemy was at the time they were spotted.
command rose in bf2/bf2142 was better though, im not into all this console dumbing down ****
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Old Jun 15, 2011, 09:04 AM   #914
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Counter Strike BBQ Source does it best, when spotted the mini map only shows the last know location and not actual location, and it only shows on the mini map and not the main screen.
Yup, this is what i prefer. Then again BF is more chaotic so it might be more frustrating than anything else. I dont mind its current state, needs to be a bit more responsive maybe, but i do prefer the way CS:S does it.
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It would be better if the icon didnt track the player though imo and just stayed at the position where the enemy was at the time they were spotted.
That would be a great solution
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This is how it should be.
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there is an added bonus with this method too, and that is that snipers could sit on a hill and instead of just shooting everything, could spot for the rest of the team.
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Well the general consensus around the usual gaming sites is that since EA is now pulling its games from Steam and is pushing it's own DD platform (Origin) - they are most likely not going to release BF3 on Steam but use the game as a tool for pushing Origin unto a wider playerbase of PC Gamers by having it exclusively on the Origin platform.
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I'm sure they'll have hardcore again. That's all I played in BC2.
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well if they that with bf3, then they just lost at least one sale, i have problem with origin myself really, but i already have impulse and steam (and now the gog downloader), and i simply don't want any more programs like this. It's not like a retail store where you buy the game and that's it, you don't ever have to go to the store again.

EDIT: i may not have a problem with origin, but i do apparently have a problem with skipping words!
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I don't have any sound here at work... Are these more of those crappy videos that go like;

"Ok, this is a gun. So it looks like they've re-introduced GUNS into the game! It also looks like they fire BULLETS!"

and

"This man walks funny... Notice how he holds his gun in his right hand? He's right handed and probably limping! Let's replay that 2 second footage 50 times over at ever-increasing zoom levels and scrutinize crappy little details like the colour of the bullets he's firing and the size of his hand to indicate possible DLC glove purchases for cosmetic modification possibilities!"

Goddamn they are some boring videos

Anyone heard if this will be on Steam? Now that EA's doing this Origin crap, I'm not sure what or where to purchase. Might find it as cheap as possible on retail if it's going to be Origin-only, but then I might still be forced to install Origin.

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i'll be getting this retail, as i am leery of origin.
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I don't have any sound here at work... Are these more of those crappy videos that go like;

"Ok, this is a gun. So it looks like they've re-introduced GUNS into the game! It also looks like they fire BULLETS!"

and

"This man walks funny... Notice how he holds his gun in his right hand? He's right handed and probably limping! Let's replay that 2 second footage 50 times over at ever-increasing zoom levels and scrutinize crappy little details like the colour of the bullets he's firing and the size of his hand to indicate possible DLC glove purchases for cosmetic modification possibilities!"

Goddamn they are some boring videos

Anyone heard if this will be on Steam? Now that EA's doing this Origin crap, I'm not sure what or where to purchase. Might find it as cheap as possible on retail if it's going to be Origin-only, but then I might still be forced to install Origin.

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Doh, "3D Spotting" seems to be in again then, which is rubbish frankly.

I just don't get it, why shove that into the game? Did the thousands of BF2 players say, "y'know, this whole map-spotting thing is great, but what we really need is a big red finger to come down from the sky and actually point to where the enemies are on the landscape". I don't think so.

For me its just another nail in the coffin. I'm still interested, but my interest is being eroded. I know its been said before, but BF3 looks more like BC3 to me.
Just play on a hardcore server with the spotting diabled. It is a lot more fun!
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i'll be getting this retail, as i am leery of origin.
Hmmm, from what I am reading, you will have to enable it through Origin anyway. But you can probably get it cheaper in a store.
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I don't have any sound here at work... Are these more of those crappy videos that go like;

"Ok, this is a gun. So it looks like they've re-introduced GUNS into the game! It also looks like they fire BULLETS!"

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Yes, yes they are. It brings to mind aspects of a gossip show such as The View.
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Old Jun 16, 2011, 05:49 PM   #927
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That would be a great solution
Or show the motion for something like 5 seconds, so you can at least get a general idea of which direction they are going. A spotter in real-life would tell the location and which direction the enemy is heading. After 5 seconds, have it disappear or stay static.
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Old Jun 16, 2011, 11:53 PM   #928
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The DLC problem has been fixed. They'll be releasing all of the features free after a certain amount of time has passed. It's purely for gain sales for pre order.

Good riddance.
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Yeah, thats great news
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The DLC problem has been fixed. They'll be releasing all of the features free after a certain amount of time has passed. It's purely for gain sales for pre order.

Good riddance.
Lately there has been alot of "PC gamers are whiners" talk.
But I rather see it as people get pissed and speak up, and sometimes someone will listen.
Better then just dropping your pants and bending over IMO, for everyone involved.
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