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Old Jul 18, 2002, 03:57 AM   #1
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Default WOOO HOOO "ATI’s Radeon 9700 (R300) – Crowning the New King"

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Old Jul 18, 2002, 03:59 AM   #2
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Default Re: WOOO HOOO "ATI’s Radeon 9700 (R300) – Crowning the New King"

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http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1656
where did you find that??
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Old Jul 18, 2002, 04:00 AM   #3
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nevermind.. had to refresh..
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Old Jul 18, 2002, 04:02 AM   #4
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this is how:

I clicked on the link that Hazmat gave, in this post:

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...eadid=33627103



.... then I saw the link on the 'Related Articles' section on the left of the screen
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Old Jul 18, 2002, 04:02 AM   #5
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Default Re: WOOO HOOO "ATI’s Radeon 9700 (R300) ECrowning the New King"

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http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1656
OOOMMMGGG!!!!

Are you looking at these graphs???? 38% faster than Ti4600, 54% faster, etc...

This f***ing ROCKS!!

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edit* HOLY S**T!!!! 251% faster with 4x AA at 1600x1200 in UT 2003...

I can't believe it!!!!!!!!
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Old Jul 18, 2002, 04:07 AM   #6
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Just look at that 256bit mem flipchip over 110m trans WOW If ihad anydoubts they are gone now ME WANT THAT
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Old Jul 18, 2002, 04:08 AM   #7
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joy-gasam #2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good to be alive!
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Old Jul 18, 2002, 04:08 AM   #8
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this is what we have ALL been waiting for, the BIG ONE
too bad i just lost my job or i'd have this puppy under the hood in no time
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Old Jul 18, 2002, 04:15 AM   #9
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Old Jul 18, 2002, 04:17 AM   #10
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$399!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?

thats like 2 8500 (maxx? )
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Old Jul 18, 2002, 04:17 AM   #11
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My favorite part !!

Quote:
At 1600x1200 with 4X AA enabled, the Radeon 9700 is 251% faster than the GeForce4 Ti 4600
HOLY COW !!
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Old Jul 18, 2002, 05:04 AM   #12
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That is one powerful card, and looks like it has the features I wanted, that I didn't get on my R8500. Most notably useable FSAA.

This card is going to be a must buy for me when it is released .

I like the fact that it is going to be that red PCB, because that will go great with my motherboard.

I hope it isn't to expensive in the UK, I am thinking that with it being $399 in the US, which is £255 in the UK, that it might be priced at about £299, and I should be able to manage that..
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Old Jul 18, 2002, 05:12 AM   #13
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Well it almost guaranteed to be a dollar for dollar exchange rate. So it looks like it'll be £399, I've got an email from a friend at a company I used to work for that has confirmed this But he also reckons that within a month or so, we should be able to get £30-£50 off the retail price.

Ha, and my contracts just been renewed so it looks like I'll have to pennies to spend
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Old Jul 18, 2002, 05:15 AM   #14
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dammit i want a new job
dammit i want a new job
dammit i want a new job

say, if i where to set up a paypal account, could ANY of you be suckered into sending me some money to buy this sweeeeeeeeeeet card ? I'm like really depressed and **** and a card like that could make me aaaaaaaallllllllllll better
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Old Jul 18, 2002, 05:17 AM   #15
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That card is beautiful *wipes tear from eye*

After recently getting an 8500 I'm gonna get one of these suckers in the .13u flavor for Doom3. /drool
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Old Jul 18, 2002, 05:20 AM   #16
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Oooh baby. Yeah... Touch me... touch me there!

Hot damn Well.... hopefully the AIW 9700 will be out before the end of the year and I put my faithful 8500 to rest... It's served me well, but it's time to move the Hell over
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im waiting for the .13 version as well, since thats likely what the AIW version will come in at.
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I want the $600 AIW version now! I hope it's not clocked lower.
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Old Jul 18, 2002, 05:37 AM   #19
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www.tomshardware.com has an article
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Old Jul 18, 2002, 05:46 AM   #20
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Old Jul 18, 2002, 05:46 AM   #21
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WOW!!!!! Very impressive indeed!!!!

Real FSAA and fixed ansio with performance to spare in all areas!!!! Excellent!!!!

If the NV30 is better than this I'll be in video heaven.
Nvidia certainly has their work cut out for them to top this.


WOW!!!!!


That said my biggest concerns have not been addressed and this statement from the Anand article does little to alleviate them.

"So much for a Unified Driver Architecture
When ATI showed us the Radeon 8500, they promised that they would finally be moving to a Unified Driver Architecture (UDA) like NVIDIA. But after conversing with one of ATI’s software engineers, we have learned that the R300’s DirectX drivers are completely new.

For starters, they are not based off of the Radeon 8500’s DX drivers, which means that the move to a UDA back with the Radeon 8500 was never really made since the next-generation architecture cannot use the codebase from the previous generation UDA. The benefit of this is that a number of the DirectX problems ATI had in the past should now be fixed. That benefit is also a significant downside because anything that was fixed in the old drivers may now be broken in the new R300 drivers. ATI has told us that the R300’s DirectX drivers will be the basis for the next-generation UDA for future chips; all we can say to this is that for ATI’s sake, they had better be.

ATI’s drivers have always been their weakness and, unfortunately, it does not look like much has changed with the R300. On the positive side, we didn’t encounter any performance, compatibility or image quality issues with the current build of the R300 drivers during our time with it. The card and its drivers ran through our entire benchmark suite just fine; but it is obvious that a significant amount of time has been wasted by redesigning the R300 drivers and we hope that no issues crop up in other games, though it is hard to believe that they will not.

ATI has come too far with the R300 to let drivers hold it back this time, hopefully with their renewed dedication to software engineering, we will not see many, if any, issues with the R300’s drivers upon its release."

Please, please, PLEASE!!!!!!! ATI do not let drivers be the achilles heel for the R700. This hardware is just too awesome to let drivers hurt its impact.

Meanwhile I'll wait to see how many bug reports pop up when this thing starts shipping.

Looks like I will be buying a new video card this x-mas!!!!!
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Radeon 8500 Transform Rate 69 million tris/sec
Radeon 9700 Transform Rate 324 million tris/sec

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Old Jul 18, 2002, 07:15 AM   #23
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Please, please, PLEASE!!!!!!! ATI do not let drivers be the achilles heel for the R700. This hardware is just too awesome to let drivers hurt its impact.

R700, WOW ATI is way ahead in the development process. Here I am getting all excited about the R300 and the R700 is soooo close.








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Old Jul 18, 2002, 07:31 AM   #24
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Don't want to add fuel to any fire, but hasn't Anandtech (and Tom's) reviews been labeled as "biased", "unreliable" and "full of sh!t" countless times before?

And before i get labeled as anything, yes, i haven't stopped drooling yet

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Old Jul 18, 2002, 07:34 AM   #25
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Oh man, my long lost dream has come true. I want one of these babies in my system right now!! I currently have a hard-on for this card
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Old Jul 18, 2002, 07:36 AM   #26
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Anand's wasn't that bad, toms is still full of s**t, well what tom said was actually ok, what Lars said though.....that guys is really quite bias...
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Old Jul 18, 2002, 08:02 AM   #27
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I just bought a Radeon 8500 2 weeks ago. someone shoot me now

Anyway, I think this card will rock, thing i'm a bit afraid about. Does this mean we'll be seeing seperate drivers for 9000/9700, and seperate ones for 8500? Suppose we'll be getting less driver updates
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man!! I want one, NOW!! haha
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I just bought a Radeon 8500 2 weeks ago. someone shoot me now

Anyway, I think this card will rock, thing i'm a bit afraid about. Does this mean we'll be seeing seperate drivers for 9000/9700, and seperate ones for 8500? Suppose we'll be getting less driver updates
No, it's same package, only files are different.
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Too bad they allow markup margins of more than 100%, at least here in Canada
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