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Old Nov 22, 2017, 01:00 AM   #1
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My current phone is the Motorola Moto X (2nd Generation), has Android 5.0 on it.

The phone I am planning to buy this one from Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/LG-G6-Unlocke.../dp/B075TZQRHN

LG G6 - 32 GB - Unlocked - Platinum - Prime Exclusive - with Lockscreen Offers & Ads

I am waiting through Amazon's Black Friday sale to see if it gets cheaper.

The camera looks like it is pretty darn good for the price. Looks like it will do a lot better in low light vs my Moto X.
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Old Nov 22, 2017, 02:13 AM   #2
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What about Oneplus 5T?
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Old Nov 22, 2017, 07:04 AM   #4
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yuck, no. On screen keyboard is perfectly fine. Also it cost way to much for what the phone has. The Moto X (4th Generation) is better than that and costs $200 less
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What about Oneplus 5T?
Never heard of them. Also costs more than what I want to pay. Plus it isn't supported by Jedi Challenges. Plus it has it's own version of an OS (though still based on Android), but I don't want to be stuck with potential incompatibilities.
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Old Nov 22, 2017, 07:24 AM   #6
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What about Essential Phone? Only $450 at Best Buy (I think) unlocked, 128gb. I love mine.
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Old Nov 22, 2017, 07:57 AM   #7
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What about Essential Phone? Only $450 at Best Buy (I think) unlocked, 128gb. I love mine.
Is the charging port on the center bottom?
I wonder if it will work with Jedi Challenges?
The Essential Phone is also $450 on Amazon.
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Get the Essential Phone for $450 or the Pixel 2 for $650.

I wouldn't even consider other Android phones.

Brand new models are shipping with old versions of Android (ie not Oreo) for christ sake. Android's whole ecosystem is just a mess.
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Get the Essential Phone for $450 or the Pixel 2 for $650.

I wouldn't even consider other Android phones.

Brand new models are shipping with old versions of Android (ie not Oreo) for christ sake. Android's whole ecosystem is just a mess.
This. If you don't upgrade often, buy a Pixel 2. 3 years of software and security updates direct from Google.
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Pixel 2 is too expensive.
I am reading that the camera for The Essential phone is terrible in low light, where as the LG G6 is showing to be great
Lg g6 is getting the Android Oreo update soon.
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Pixel 2 is too expensive.
I am reading that the camera for The Essential phone is terrible in low light, where as the LG G6 is showing to be great
Lg g6 is getting the Android Oreo update soon.
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I haven't taken too many pictures with it, but I don't think it's that awful. G6 looks okay and it's water proof, just throwing another option out.
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Thank you for pointing out a different option.

So I have found out that the LG G6 does have an 128GB version for $450 from Amazon.

The 128GB was very tempting with The Essential Phone.
So now it comes down to this on which phone I am going to pay $450 for.

LG G6, slower CPU/GPU but with better Camera and Camera features
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The Essential Phone with faster CPU/GPU but with lower quality camera and less camera features.

I am guessing the CPU/GPU on the LG G6 will still be plenty to play any Android game, right?
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Have you held both phones? The Essential Phone is small, much smaller than you'd expect for the screen size. I did a quick CAD mockup for the length x width compared to the G6 (inside rectangle is Essential Phone).



the Essential is ever so slightly thinner.

Snapdragon 821 isn't bad, even outperforms 835 in floating point operations, but it's not going to be as good on battery as the 835.

Another way the Essential is better is that it's Gorilla Glass 5 on the front, the LG is only Gorilla Glass 3, and the Essential has a nearly indestructible ceramic back, while the LG has Gorilla Glass 5 (no idea why they put the 5 on the back but not the front).

I am a bit biased though, my wife's G4 had the infamous boot loop issue, and was really not a well built phone. Just not a big fan of LG. Essential is also vanilla Android, which is a plus in my opinion, and Oreo beta is already out. The LG does have a slightly bigger battery, but likely offset by the Snapdragon 835 and slightly lower res panel (~550ppi vs 506ppi).
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Those are pretty good prices. Canada getting ripped again.


https://mobilesyrup.com/2017/09/01/e...-phone-review/

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Lockscreen ads sounds like ****. I'd just buy an Xperia Z5. It's cheaper and no ads, and my Xperia Z3 has been nothing but solid.
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So I got the LG G6+ Amazon Prime edition 128gb

The lock screen offers and the ads on the home screen that you can swipe away won't bother me at all, especially for a $350 savings.

The Essential Phone was a real contender for me, and what pushed me over the edge in choosing the LG G6+ was:

Better camera and Camera features
The IP68 rating that will allow to me to take pictures even under water and in the rain.

The Essential phone has the better CPU/GPU and Gorilla Glass 5 on the front (Gorilla Glass 3 on front of LG G6+), and that was very enticing. But in the end LG G6+ won out, but only by a little.
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I wonder if you can root it to get rid of the ads?
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Lockscreen ads sounds like ****. I'd just buy an Xperia Z5. It's cheaper and no ads, and my Xperia Z3 has been nothing but solid.
Wow they force ads on you on top of having a premium price? Ya G6 is a much better deal then.
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Wow they force ads on you on top of having a premium price? Ya G6 is a much better deal then.
Getting an $800 phone for $450 ($350 savings) and all I have to see is an offer on the lock screen, and an offer on home screen that I can swipe away, really is an excellent deal. Those offers will not bother me at all.
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I got my LG G6+ yesterday. Played around with it for a little bit and loving it so far. I like that I can have 2 apps running at the same time, each taking half of the screen. The pictures are excellent especially at low light.
The lock screen offers are not bothersome at all. There is a widget that shows up on one of the home screens with an offer that I can move around, which I moved i to a page all by itself
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A Cyber Monday deal has the Essential phone for $399.

https://www.amazon.com/Essential-Wor...3f002ea66694a1
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A Cyber Monday deal has the Essential phone for $399.

https://www.amazon.com/Essential-Wor...3f002ea66694a1
Wow, I wish I waited!
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Old Nov 27, 2017, 08:50 AM   #23
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A Cyber Monday deal has the Essential phone for $399.

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I'd be all over that if I weren't trading in my iphone and watch for it.
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Buy it and return the other one. I really wish this at the same camera processing as the Pixel 2. I can't find any info if Google is going to release it to others.
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I got my LG G6+ yesterday. Played around with it for a little bit and loving it so far. I like that I can have 2 apps running at the same time, each taking half of the screen. The pictures are excellent especially at low light.
The lock screen offers are not bothersome at all. There is a widget that shows up on one of the home screens with an offer that I can move around, which I moved i to a page all by itself
So its all new phones have these ads now?
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So its all new phones have these ads now?

No, about a dozen phones from Amazon, which are available only through Amazon have these ads. On one hand they have ads, on the other hand you're getting decent pieces of hardware for a couple hundred bucks off for having Amazon ads. If money is an issue and a nice phone is desired it makes a lot of sense.
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Oh ok I thought it was US thing that would make its way up here at some point.

Amazon no big surprise I suppose. Pretty soon I bet they'll not just subsidize but give out hw for free like alexa units to get ads in our homes.

Depending on the deal I might go for it. Phones with top end mobile soc's are crazy priced now.
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No, about a dozen phones from Amazon, which are available only through Amazon have these ads. On one hand they have ads, on the other hand you're getting decent pieces of hardware for a couple hundred bucks off for having Amazon ads. If money is an issue and a nice phone is desired it makes a lot of sense.
Yeah, that is correct. I am guessing they did this because the Amazon Fire Phone did not do so well and they quit making Fire Phones, so this was the next best option, subsidize unlocked phones and put ads on the Lock screen and a moveable Widget on the home screen.

Here are the current phones that Amazon is subsidizing
https://www.amazon.com/Prime-Exclusi...de=14613304011
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A Cyber Monday deal has the Essential phone for $399.

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And they ran out during the sale and are not taking orders at that price and shipped when they get more in.

Actually it is rather curious that they don't even show when they expect to get more in stock.
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And they ran out during the sale and are not taking orders at that price and shipped when they get more in.

Actually it is rather curious that they don't even show when they expect to get more in stock.
Almost all the Bestbuys in my area sold out too, and no info on when more are incoming.
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