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Old Oct 13, 2019, 12:32 PM   #1
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Good. They deserve it
I mean, do they? In retrospect, they have earned it. Sure. But this is also after years of the inability to produce anything worthy of competition.
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I mean, do they? In retrospect, they have earned it. Sure. But this is also after years of the inability to produce anything worthy of competition.
better late than never


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lol so rehashing the same core for 2 more years.
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Hope they sell every cpu they can make but not sure about that metric. Lets see some oem sales or quarter financial numbers.
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I mean, do they? In retrospect, they have earned it. Sure. But this is also after years of the inability to produce anything worthy of competition.
Considering the have like 1/10th(?) the R&D budget, I'd say the fact they're competitive at all is amazing. Even the fact they were able to recover from the Bulldozer debacle at all is kind of impressive. They easily could have just kept sucking and proceeded to go out of business.

AMD historically has been more competitive with Intel than they really should be.
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lol so rehashing the same core for 2 more years.
Not a bad thing if the core architecture doesn't suck (unlike Bulldozer, which more or less sucked from the get go)
Obviously there is a shelf life before it needs to be redone from scratch.
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Totally agree. Competition is great for the rest of us. It's a shame that AMD couldn't compete for so long. The fact that they couldn't and didn't compete really reduced the innovation in the PC market for a long while.

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Well, it seems that rumor is turning out to not be true.
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Totally agree. Competition is great for the rest of us. It's a shame that AMD couldn't compete for so long. The fact that they couldn't and didn't compete really reduced the innovation in the PC market for a long while.



What is the deal with you, intel, and std's? Like every other thread is full of you talking about std's.



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maybe

but does anyone believe them

we will see or won't see 10nm and when if ever

and will AMD be over 50% CPU market by then
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but does anyone believe them

we will see or won't see 10nm and when if ever

and will AMD be over 50% CPU market by then
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but does anyone believe them

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Technically, the Ultrabook CPU in an Intel NUC is a "desktop CPU." Looks like Intel will put their discrete GPUs on the 10nm node. Should be a good fit as GPUs don't need to hit 4GHz+ and their modular design means you have many more opportunities to salvage a bad die by fusing off defective segments.
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Does anyone really believe their GPUs are going to be any good?
eventually sure

they did fine till vega while in the hole from buying ATI when they put everything into ryzen

now that that they have a good cash flow they should be back soon

what is it about 3 or 4 years for a GPU start to finish ?

so they fired Raja about two years ago so a year or two more for something completely new "next gen gpu"
all the navi gpu's are just filler
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eventually sure

they did fine till vega while in the hole from buying ATI when they put everything into ryzen

now that that they have a good cash flow they should be back soon

what is it about 3 or 4 years for a GPU start to finish ?

so they fired Raja about two years ago so a year or two more for something completely new "next gen gpu"
all the navi gpu's are just filler
I was actually talking about Intel.

I don't think Navi is actually that bad. It may not be competing at the very top, but it's competitive enough in its niche. There's no reason to think a larger Navi variant couldn't be competitive at the top, too. While it's still a step behind Nvidia, it's certainly the closest AMD has been for a number of years now. We're back at least to Fury or 290X levels of competitiveness.
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I was actually talking about Intel.

I don't think Navi is actually that bad. It may not be competing at the very top, but it's competitive enough in its niche. There's no reason to think a larger Navi variant couldn't be competitive at the top, too. While it's still a step behind Nvidia, it's certainly the closest AMD has been for a number of years now. We're back at least to Fury or 290X levels of competitiveness.
290x levels was head to head with the current titan at the time.

I think with more modern drivers it may actual be ahead of it as well.
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290x levels was head to head with the current titan at the time.

I think with more modern drivers it may actual be ahead of it as well.
290x crossfire was the high point
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It really depends on the usage. Intel has had some moderate success integrating the GPU into the CPU. Granted they are no where close to being as powerful as a discrete GPU. That being said, it does give them some experience in the field.

I'm interested in seeing what they can produce. I'm also hopeful that it is competition for AMD and Nvidia. Knowing Intel though, I'm willing to bet that they'll come out with a GPU that is 10% slower than the competition at 2 times the price.
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Does anyone really believe their GPUs are going to be any good?
AMD did well in the past when they didn't go head to head with the top dogs of the nvidia lineup or when Nvidia fell flat on their face.

Its whatever they had in between the few bullseyes that dragged them down.

I mean whats the point of releasing a waste of time Radeon VII series when it was just ****canned 6 months in?
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When paired with 16 GB of dual-channel DDR4-3200 memory, the Ryzen 9 3950X powered machine scores 32,082 points in the CPU-intensive physics tests of 3DMark. In comparison, the i9-10980XE, paired with 32 GB of quad-channel DDR4-2667 memory, scores just 25,838 points as mentioned by PC Perspective. Graphics card is irrelevant to this test. It's pertinent to note here that the 3DMark physics test scales across practically any number of CPU cores/threads, and the AMD processor could be benefiting from a higher all-core boost frequency than the Intel chip.

Although AMD doesn't mention a number in its specifications, the 3950X is expected to have an all-core boost frequency that's north of 4.00 GHz, as its 12-core sibling, the 3900X, already offers 4.20 GHz all-core. In contrast, the i9-10980XE has an all-core boost frequency of 3.80 GHz. This difference in boost frequency, apparently, even negates the additional 2 cores and 4 threads that the Intel chip enjoys, in what is yet another example of AMD having caught up with Intel in the IPC game.
Thats only the mainstream desktop chip. Can imagine how the Ryzen 3K TR lineup will be...
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Why would they run the 1090XE @ 2667 .. even in quad-channel that is going to hamper performance. I don't think that'll make up 6k points, but who the hell would run slow memory with a chip like that We'll see what the 10980XE will boost to when all-core boost is forced on. Once again though, advertising single-core boost will make this deceiving.
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Well the ryzen is dual channel vs the quad channel on intel and anyway this test isnt memory dependant.
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any cpu intensive test will benefit from memory bandwidth.

I pointed out that it's quad-channel but that's still dumb. i wanna know who threw garbage memory with a $1k chip should be slapped
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any cpu intensive test will benefit from memory bandwidth.

I pointed out that it's quad-channel but that's still dumb. i wanna know who threw garbage memory with a $1k chip should be slapped
Could it be they are running the memory at the speed recommended by Intel when they gave them the chip to test, or could it be possible that it's not stable with any higher speeds, all though the spec sheet states 2933 memory? This is a ES chip most likely.
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This is a huge plus for AMD as they now have the chance to sweep more customers out from under Intel ( while AMD had their own supply issues at launch now that the dust has settled AMD is in a very good position). AMD has since gotten better at producing CPU with little or no issues, Because of this many consumers and clients are switching AMD seeing as their CPUs offer more value, more cores, a modern feature set and the most important fact, that their CPUs are in stock.

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