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Old Nov 9, 2004, 07:10 AM   #1
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Default New Intel CPU Roadmap for 2005 S*CKS...

Hexus have the plans of Intel 2005 sollution and i am disappointed

http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews...mlld19JRD05MDY


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For the enthusiast and workstation followers, it's easy to summarise the roadmap and its vision.

2005 for the Pentium 4 means no more than 3.8GHz, EM64T, a new Extreme Edition on the 1066MHz bus, a couple of new chipsets that support DDR2-667 and dual-core P4 right at the end of the year.

Xeon gets a basic 2M DP part but nothing faster than 3.6GHz.
Again P4 processors (where is Pentium 5??) with max at 3.8 GHZ only

Are Intel insane or they want to get crashed by AMD in 2005

Again some P4 sollutions available with just some tweaks
nothing really new


I guess my next system upgrade will be AMD 64...
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Old Nov 9, 2004, 07:18 AM   #2
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Well, next year we should see dual core CPU's from Intel, which is quite exciting.
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Old Nov 9, 2004, 07:27 AM   #3
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Late next year though. Yeah Intel needs to start comming out with some new tech.
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Well, next year we should see dual core CPU's from Intel, which is quite exciting.
It says that the DUAL INTEL CPU's will be ready at the End of next year (Q4 2005)

They will keep the same P4 prescot architecture with just some tweaks at max 3.8 GHZ (just little better FSB and DDR2 mem etc)

I think Intel has really screwed things up
AMD 64 is already planning for a AMD 64 4000+

and probably will have a AMD 64 5000+ until the end of 2005



I do not understand why Intel still keeps the Pentium 4 architecture technology (which is really old by now and has reached to it's limits)


Without competition AMD will start it's monopoly and rise prices
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Old Nov 9, 2004, 07:42 AM   #5
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It says that the DUAL INTEL CPU's will be ready at the End of next year (Q4 2005)
Someone needs to re-read the article it seems.

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2005 for the Pentium 4 means no more than 3.8GHz, EM64T, a new Extreme Edition on the 1066MHz bus, a couple of new chipsets that support DDR2-667 and [hey, look here tag]dual-core P4 right at the end of the year[/hey, look here tag].
P.S. Oh, by the way, AMD 4000+ is already out on store shelves.
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Someone needs to re-read the article it seems.
Oopps my mistake
These year

But again what are the possible benefits (except for some programs like EXCEL etc) compared to a single CPU sollutions ??
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AMD 64 is already planning for a AMD 64 4000+

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Without competition AMD will start it's monopoly and rise prices
AMD released the 4000+ almost a month ago.

Do you know how long it would take for AMD to establish a 'monopoly'? They will need to have the best luck along with the best products coupled with intel having the worst of both for 5-10 years for AMD to have a monopoly. That's how far behind they are. No matter how good AMD's processors are, people just don't care because the majority just don't know. Lack of advertising is AMD's problem.. of course their chips are so great because they put all their money into R&D. But, even if they did start a strong advertising campaign, it would take years for it to even establish half the 'integrity' Intel's advertising has over the years. Then there are problems with supply - even if AMD convinced the market, they don't have the manufacuturing ability to create enough chips to take the majority of the market from intel. As of now, best they can manage is around 25% market share (from the dismal ~16% they have).

AMD will most likely never maintain a monopoly over Intel. Up times like these and 2000-2001 are just what keeps them in business. Be thankful for them while they still manage to survive.
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fyi. amd plans to have 3ghz amd 64 by the end of 2005. yeah intel you might want to consider doing something instead of taking the attitude of "We are too big of a company to crash and burn"
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Well, next year we should see dual core CPU's from Intel, which is quite exciting.
And in about 2 years thereafter, we'll finally start seeing games that actually benefit, sigh.

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amd needs to make video cards..
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AMD already has a prototype dual core processor. Intel doesn't

I believe AMD's dual core processors will be out by mid 2005 beating intel

AMD Athlon 64 in games is faster then anything intel has and is gaining ground is the only benchmark intel has left media encodeing. by next year AMD will surpass intel in even this.

Windows XP 64 bit edition will be out by Q1 2005 benchmarks are still out on this though. although untill intel has x86-64 support they will not be able to use it.


Next year intel isn't bringing out anything bran new. And even at dual core they will have to compete with AMD with there integrated memory controller already working 64 bit and hypertransport architecture. innovations that will set AMD above intel.
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amd needs to make video cards..

don't agree, they need to partner with either ATI or nvidia or both which is already happening. Soon you will be abel to get


Motherboard with ATI chipset
ATI Radeon video card
AMD PRocessor

or

Nforce chipset
Geforce video card
AMD processor

with the same company making both the chipset and the video car you will end up with the best compatibility around, compatibility that will rivel intel. not only in performance but price.
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