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Old Mar 26, 2009, 04:21 AM   #1711
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Few random photos I took tonight messing around with the camera in my tiny garage. The composition sucks, but I achieved what I was after. The photos seemed to have turned out ok I guess.








Should have cleaned my rear window for that last one though. Oh well.
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Clean looking, like the rims . Hows the ride with it that low?
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Clean looking, like the rims . Hows the ride with it that low?
I was wondering the same question. With a drop that low, hopefully he backed it up with some nice shocks.

Also, I really think that looks kind of good. I think the drop is too low for that car, but maybe with some slightly larger and wider (if possible) wheels it would look outstanding.

Side note: What's hanging off the rear left side of the bumper? I can't imagine what would be poking up from the ground looking like that, so it has to be from the vehicle.
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Side note: What's hanging off the rear left side of the bumper? I can't imagine what would be poking up from the ground looking like that, so it has to be from the vehicle.
Anti-static strap

So you don't get shocked since any static charge you build up, gets dumped to the ground.

I've been contemplating getting one...
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Clean looking, like the rims . Hows the ride with it that low?
The ride isn't too bad, a bit bumpy sometimes, more so in winter. I just have to watch out for potholes and take it easy when entering driveways.
I'm on my third set of suspension. The first two where spring and strut combo and now it's on coilovers.

I do have an anti-static strap on the back. Part of the rubber strip froze and broke off in winter. It's useless now but it looks cool
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The ride isn't too bad, a bit bumpy sometimes, more so in winter. I just have to watch out for potholes and take it easy when entering driveways.
I'm on my third set of suspension. The first two where spring and strut combo and now it's on coilovers.

I do have an anti-static strap on the back. Part of the rubber strip froze and broke off in winter. It's useless now but it looks cool
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My wife and I removed her stock intake setup on her 08' Sky Redline and installed a 3" Dejon Intake Pipe. Quick and easy, and now we can REALLY hear the boost. This sucker is LOUD.





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Don't get me wrong, that looks totally awesome, but wouldn't the cold-air intake actually have performed better? Infact I'm going risk saying that yes, the cold air intake was going to give you cooler air, and make the car run better. It just doesn't sound loud by design. They put air-pockets along most cold-air intake assemblies to reduce the intake noise, and also reduce variance in high and low air pressure, which makes again, less noise but more power.

I'm not a car guy at all, but I believe my reasoning is sound. Again I could be wrong, but it's worth thinking about.
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Don't get me wrong, that looks totally awesome, but wouldn't the cold-air intake actually have performed better? Infact I'm going risk saying that yes, the cold air intake was going to give you cooler air, and make the car run better. It just doesn't sound loud by design. They put air-pockets along most cold-air intake assemblies to reduce the intake noise, and also reduce variance in high and low air pressure, which makes again, less noise but more power.

I'm not a car guy at all, but I believe my reasoning is sound. Again I could be wrong, but it's worth thinking about.
This intake pipe is known to increase horsepower over the stock intake setup. Which cold air intake are you referring to, the stock setup? It gets air from the exact some place as this unit. Only difference being the stock intake has the mazelike air silencer box in front, then the restrictive stock intake and airbox, and smaller diameter piping to the turbo.

I have a good understanding of air intake designs, and know full well that they keep it quieter by design which is the entire point of the huge mazelike air silencer setup mounted to the frount of the factory airbox. It has nothing to do with air pressure differences, but with just plain keeping it quiet. The air intake noise is MUCH louder with this pipe, and the average person would be driven nuts by it. It is pretty restrictive, and I believe the only temperature variance between the two units would be from the materials used in the construction. For example, the stock setup is made of plastic where our new pipe is made of aluminum that absorbs more heat. As always, real power gains from the intake setup are debateable...I wouldn't expect virtually any power increase if this were a regular 4cyl. But being turbocharged and running a very aggressive tune at 22.5psi of boost...I would imagine ~5rwhp wouldn't be too difficult to belive.
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This intake pipe is known to increase horsepower over the stock intake setup.
Again, I am not a gear head and can only barely change my oil, but how is it that you really know this? Have you done or seen repeat dyno results confirming it? I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I'm still not convinced that it's a difference. Perhaps if it allows more air in at a time, but because that air is directly from your engine bay, it is going to get hotter and hotter. That is just not a good thing no matter how you spin it.

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Which cold air intake are you referring to, the stock setup? It gets air from the exact some place as this unit.
Really? The stock setup isn't drawing air from a duct outside the engine bay? You should be isolating that pod filter from your engine bay's hot air, like air-tight seals.

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Only difference being the stock intake has the mazelike air silencer box in front, then the restrictive stock intake and airbox, and smaller diameter piping to the turbo.
I would have to agree that a greater diameter has to be beneficial.

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I have a good understanding of air intake designs, and know full well that they keep it quieter by design which is the entire point of the huge mazelike air silencer setup mounted to the frount of the factory airbox. It has nothing to do with air pressure differences, but with just plain keeping it quiet.
I don't really know for sure, but I thought the pressure variance is partly what creates so much of that noisy goodness. I do love the sound of a nice meaty engine with a less restrictive and loud intake, it's just

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The air intake noise is MUCH louder with this pipe, and the average person would be driven nuts by it.
Again: - got a recording of some revving?

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It is pretty restrictive, and I believe the only temperature variance between the two units would be from the materials used in the construction. For example, the stock setup is made of plastic where our new pipe is made of aluminum that absorbs more heat. As always, real power gains from the intake setup are debatable...I wouldn't expect virtually any power increase if this were a regular 4cyl. But being turbocharged and running a very aggressive tune at 22.5psi of boost...I would imagine ~5rwhp wouldn't be too difficult to believe.
No I don't doubt that under full boost it would be beneficial, EXCEPT that it's drawing in HOT air from your engine bay! That is something the stock intake is NOT doing.
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I've been trying to tell you, the stock intake setup drew air from the exact same place as this. The stock air silencing portion did not snake it's way into the side fenders, there are no open spots in the front bumper, and the lower air dam intake is blocked entirely by the front mount intercooler. The intake temperature is exactly the same as before, only variance being that the piping is now aluminum and may get a bit warmer. I'm not going to get into debates on how much power this setup truly makes, I have seen a couple dynos where they have gained power but it's never enough to really be a big deal...it's only an air intake after all. I have yet to see anything say it's actually worse.

Once again, the only thing that could possibly make it worse is that the piping is aluminum. It gets air from the exact same place, and on this vehicle there is no way to seperate the engine compartment from a place where it might get cooler air. No such place exists. It's a clamshell design and the fenders are also open to the engine bay heat. Without extreme major modifications including body work, you can't change the air intake setup. People have used this intake in the same way and added intercooler, bypass pipe, and exhaust and are running 300rwhp with the same tune we have. It gets the job done.

Cold air intakes and how they work is pretty basic stuff. The volume of air this setup takes in compared to stock is substantially more, there are extensive flowrate test done by Dejon, Hahn, and RPi. They have released their own versions of this intake, but they are basically the same thing. The point is that the substantial increase in flowrate apparently negates any negative effects the aluminum piping has on the intake charge. As always with any air intake swap, we could debate it forever.
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I've been trying to tell you, the stock intake setup drew air from the exact same place as this.
Oh.

I'll sit down now

Thanks for explaining this btw, I am of the opinion that one who asks a stupid question is an idiot for five minutes, one who doesn't is an idiot forever.

Great pics btw, am I right in guessing a flash was used in the before example, and not used in the after shots? At any rate the after shots look better
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Oh.

I'll sit down now

Thanks for explaining this btw, I am of the opinion that one who asks a stupid question is an idiot for five minutes, one who doesn't is an idiot forever.

Great pics btw, am I right in guessing a flash was used in the before example, and not used in the after shots? At any rate the after shots look better
Yeah, normally they do draw air from somewhere slightly cooler, but the clamshell design of the car changes it a lot from a normal car setup. What annoys me is that there is a perfectly good mesh area in the front of the car that they could have opened up for cool air to flow right through, but its a fake mesh that has no openings in it. I've thought about removing it and putting my own mesh material in. Maybe someday, as that would feed cool air directly into that AEM filter. Once we get the better front mount intercooler though, it won't matter much anyway.

The first shot was flash, 2nd/3rd were not.

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No problem whatsoever, your thoughts made perfect sense and are usually the case in 99% of car designs. I highly doubt we lose power with this intake setup, but gaining power is questionable. At the very least we gain good looks and can hear the turbo portion much better.
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My wife and I removed her stock intake setup on her 08' Sky Redline and installed a 3" Dejon Intake Pipe. Quick and easy, and now we can REALLY hear the boost. This sucker is LOUD.





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Don't get me wrong, that looks totally awesome, but wouldn't the cold-air intake actually have performed better? Infact I'm going risk saying that yes, the cold air intake was going to give you cooler air, and make the car run better. It just doesn't sound loud by design. They put air-pockets along most cold-air intake assemblies to reduce the intake noise, and also reduce variance in high and low air pressure, which makes again, less noise but more power.

I'm not a car guy at all, but I believe my reasoning is sound. Again I could be wrong, but it's worth thinking about.
Its intercooled, cold air intakes are pointless with an intercooler.
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haha try tellin that to any mk4 1.8t guy hahahahahaha. Some people man.
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Thanks, I was wondering about that too.
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haha try tellin that to any mk4 1.8t guy hahahahahaha. Some people man.
My buddies Jetta VR6 has a huge cone style air intake with aluminum piping and is completely out in the open air engine environment and heat. He's pushing 450hp at the front wheels and has never had any problems at all. He recently went to meth injection to cool the intake charge.

Cold air intakes aren't really all that. The theory is sound, but it's not the absolute requirement. There are other methods of getting the cool intake charge for power and lowering the octane requirement.
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My buddies Jetta VR6 has a huge cone style air intake with aluminum piping and is completely out in the open air engine environment and heat. He's pushing 450hp at the front wheels and has never had any problems at all. He recently went to meth injection to cool the intake charge.

Cold air intakes aren't really all that. The theory is sound, but it's not the absolute requirement. There are other methods of getting the cool intake charge for power and lowering the octane requirement.
haha you said vr6 and then threw out the 450 whp, and then meth injection. Cold air intake is useless in this situation, throw a filter over the turbo and call it a day.
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haha you said vr6 and then threw out the 450 whp, and then meth injection. Cold air intake is useless in this situation, throw a filter over the turbo and call it a day.
I know the guy who buit the car from the ground up to handle the boost he's throwing at it. If he felt that it was utterly necessary to remove the intake for any reason, he would have done so. The guy knows his ****, and 4+years with 450whp on his JETTA with no parts ever replaced,(although with constant tweaking and tuning weekly) I'll just leave him to his car before I come in and tell him he's doing it all wrong.
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I know the guy who buit the car from the ground up to handle the boost he's throwing at it. If he felt that it was utterly necessary to remove the intake for any reason, he would have done so. The guy knows his ****, and 4+years with 450whp on his JETTA with no parts ever replaced,(although with constant tweaking and tuning weekly) I'll just leave him to his car before I come in and tell him he's doing it all wrong.
WTF? He needs to sell that mofo right away and buy a beat up ass old E8-something ASAP! F'n noob!
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WTF? He needs to sell that mofo right away and buy a beat up ass old E8-something ASAP! F'n noob!
I don't know what that is! :embarrased:
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