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Old Nov 17, 2013, 05:12 PM   #1
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Question Anyone tried the Gelid Solutions Icy Vision Rev.2 cooler with a R290?

As the title says, i'm finally upgrading the good old 5870s crossfire as the 1GB VRAM limit is killing bf4. I'm going to buy the beast that is the R290 but I think it might still be a while for the after market coolers. The Gelid Icy Vision Rev.2 looks like it could be the answer, anyone any ideas on how it would perform?

http://www.quietpc.com/gel-icy-visio...FfMctAodJhsArA
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there was some thread about it at ocuk i think, also somewhere in the radeon 290x thread theres a link for it
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Old Nov 18, 2013, 03:53 AM   #4
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Great, thx guys.
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The Icy Vision will take up three spaces when installed in your case, so if you only have two PCI-E slots that are placed really close together the you probably won’t be able to run a dual card configuration with the Icy vision installed.
Not very suitable for most crossfire configurations...
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Don't know that I'd use these in CFX even if you had a 3 slot design motherboard.
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Not very suitable for most crossfire configurations...
well except of course that the 290(x) series don't use crossfire bridges and thus you aren't limited to space requirements normally set by the length of the crossfire/sli bridge.
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Old Nov 18, 2013, 04:12 PM   #8
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Not very suitable for most crossfire configurations...
Yea that is abit of a pisser, the heat generated between both cards would be high but I have a decent gap in my board between cards just now but would have to replace the cooler if i wanted to go CFX. Maybe I should wait & get a cooler that will keep the VRMs temps down, i read that they're pretty high with the Gelid cooler.
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let us know how it works do a build log or something please.
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^ Ok dude, will do.
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Yea I am interested how that cooler turns out, I am definitely gonna get one but first I have to get r9 290x that actually works(cough).
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Ok now,

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...20Xtreme%20III which is ARCTIC Accelero Xtreme III

From Q&A on newegg"

Brett O:Yes it will fit the 290. I recently bought and installed one on my 290x and the 290 is almost identical. The Xtreme III comes with 12 heatsinks for the memory but the 290 needs 16 of them, so you will also have to purchase atleast 4 more heatsinks for the memory. Something similar to the following links should work. Just search for "vga heatsink", you'll need at least 4 of them. They should be roughly .25 inches (13mm) square in size. I'm not sure how tall they can be.Nov 9, 2013


PATRICK K:Yes, but it extends 2 inches beyond the length of the card, so you must account for this when installing into your chassis. Also you won't be using all of the included heatsinks. Tomshardware is supposedly coming out with a guide on how to install this cooler onto the R9 290. I did it on my own, took about 2-3 hours.


SO.... does it come with enough stuff for 290x? like ram heatsinks?

Seems based on toms hardware review its 4 short for vram chips of the heatsinks so my question is where one would buy just heatsinks ?

would this work? - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835708009 (Enzotech BCC9 VGA Cooler)

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Yep ur right DJSatane they would need another four ram heatsinks which i've found. I'm also going to buy some thermal adhesive tape. Toms did finish their test with the R290 & the ARCTIC Accelero Xtream III;

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/r9-290...iew-32828.html
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Yep ur right DJSatane they would need another four ram heatsinks which i've found. I'm also going to buy some thermal adhesive tape. Toms did finish their test with the R290 & the ARCTIC Accelero Xtream III;

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/r9-290...iew-32828.html
Did you find the ram heatsinks you already had or you bought them? and if so where and what?

Also reading that tomshardware article I came upon:
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Clean the GPU's surface with isopropyl alcohol and tidy up any residual thermal grease to prepare the assembly. To avoid short circuits, apply insulating strips over the surface-mount components, since the VRM sinks are larger than they need to be and overhang
I am not extremly well versed all this stuff so I am confused about applying insulating strips, I do see in the product package there is 5 x insulation tape but when he refers to using insulating strips what does that mean exactly?

Also they were not very clear on the fan situation, and if you look at their results vrams still heat up quite a bit with that setup.

Depending how fast I will get replacement(they waiting till my shipment arrives and its across border) so I may not get my replacement till next week and maybe by then there will be more 3rd party cooling solutions showing up(I hope).
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Found the ram heatsinks from here in the UK;

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=HS-038-AL

Sorry, i'm not sure either about applying the insulating strips. If you have a side door fan then that should be enough to push air onto the VRM1 which sits at the top left, edge of the card.
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well except of course that the 290(x) series don't use crossfire bridges and thus you aren't limited to space requirements normally set by the length of the crossfire/sli bridge.
You're not aware of the fact that many crossfire capable boards do not have 2 free slots between both PCI-e x16 slots?

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You're not aware of the fact that many CHEAP crossfire capable boards do not have 3 free slots between both PCI-e x16 slots?
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Many, if not most quality Crossfire capable boards do have more than just two PCIe 16x slots available. The last board I had that did not was an $85 Asrock. even my old Fatal1ty AN9 32X had enough room between PCIe slots to support triple slot fan assemblies. A good amount of quality boards have (full length) multiple PCIe slots that allow 3 slot cooling.

I'd almost say it's harder to find modern boards that do not (excluding m-ATX/economy boards)
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You're not aware of the fact that many crossfire capable boards do not have 3 free slots between both PCI-e x16 slots?
Exactly, I think water is the only solution for crossfire on these. I have a 3rd slot further over, but I think that slot is 8x only.

Here is the space i have:

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Many, if not most quality Crossfire capable boards do have more than just two PCIe 16x slots available. The last board I had that did not was an $85 Asrock. even my old Fatal1ty AN9 32X had enough room between PCIe slots to support triple slot fan assemblies. A good amount of quality boards have (full length) multiple PCIe slots that allow 3 slot cooling.

I'd almost say it's harder to find modern boards that do not (excluding m-ATX/economy boards)
My board (Asus Maximus IV Extreme-Z) was very expensive, has 4 pci-e 2.0 X16 slots. When used in crossfire, 2 + 4 are pci-e 2.0 X16 speed. Only 1 free slot between them.
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Exactly, I think water is the only solution for crossfire on these. I have a 3rd slot further over, but I think that slot is 8x only.

Here is the space i have:

Still enough space for 3x cooler..

the 8x slot , is that a intel limitation or something ?
From what I recall, the AMD boards only limit is there is one 4x (full length) PCIe slot on cheaper/economy boards. On the Crosshair/Sabertooth boards the 1st, 3rd, 4th pcie are 16x if only 2 are occupied.. of 3 are occupied the 1st/3rd becomes 8x PCIe 2.0 (equal to 16x PCIe 1.0), with the exception of the Sabertooth R2.0 that has PCIe 3.0 by inclusion of a 3rd party pcie bridge chip.
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My board (Asus Maximus IV Extreme-Z) was very expensive, has 4 pci-e 2.0 X16 slots. When used in crossfire, 2 + 4 are pci-e 2.0 X16 speed.
Pretty sure x79 platforms are the only way to get dual 16 Pcie3. I am probably wrong, but they have 40 lanes for 2x16 and1x8. and xeon stuff can get 80 lanes, but thats some serious dough.

here is a write up on x79 shiz:

For the gamers and GPU users, we finally get full x16/x16 native compatibility in the PCIe world, without the need for any performance reducing NF200 solutions. X79 for the most part will see motherboards spouting x16/x16, x16/x16/x8, x16/x8/x8/x8, x8/x8/x8/x8 or even x16/x8/x8/x4/x4 variations depending on the PCIe layout of the board, the size of the board, and the manufacturer. For all intents and purposes, in gaming, we are not expecting this to make any difference for the first two GPUs. Very few gamers will be using more than two, and again, this chipset is aimed at ‘no price too much’ style scenarios. Where it will probably be handier is in the land of GPGPU, where CPU to GPU bandwidth may have been the major limitation in running simulations.

We cannot get away from the fact that for a lot of X79 motherboards, the PCIe GPU lanes will be post-specified at PCIe Gen 3. The chipset, and the motherboards in X79, should all display Gen 3 compatibility for the GPU slots (usually for the PCIe x8/x16), but this currently means relatively little for consumers until Gen 3 products are released to the market. There is also the fact that it cannot be properly tested in a real-world context until then – depending on how exactly the GPU manufacturers utilize the new technology. As a result, the initial batches of X79 motherboards may require a BIOS update to activate this functionality. I was lucky enough to observe an ASUS Z68 Gen 3 board running an Ivy Bridge processor at a recent invitational event, where ASUS were clearly stating that all their PCIe Gen 3 products are correctly implemented.

It is worth having a look at PCIe Gen 3, if only for a couple minutes. Inside the Intel Chipset implementation, it states:

Intel Core i7 and Intel Xeon processors in an LGA2011 package support PCI Express add-in graphics cards via the board’s PCI Express x16 connectors. These processors support the following generations of PCI Express:

- PCI Express 3.0 with a raw bit rate of 8.0 GT/s results in an effective bandwidth of 8.0 Gb/s each direction per lane. The maximum theoretical bandwidth of the x16 interface is 16 GB/s in each direction, simultaneously, for a bandwidth of 32 GB/s.

- PCI Express 2.x with a raw bit rate of 5.0 GT/s results in an effective bandwidth of 4.0 Gb/s each direction per lane. The maximum theoretical bandwidth of the x16 interface is 8 GB/s in each direction, simultaneously, for a bandwidth of 16 GB/s.

I want to draw attention to 3.0 and 2.x, and the comparison between GT/s (GigaTransfers per second) and bandwidth. It states, for 3.0, that there is a raw bit rate of 8.0 GT/s, and an effective up/down bandwidth total of 32 GB/s. For 2.x, there is a raw bit rate of 5.0 GT/s, and an effective up/down bandwidth total of 16 GB/s. This means there is a distinctive change in how PCIe 3.0 and 2.x operates – PCIe 2.0 uses an 8b/10b encoding scheme, which causes a 20% overhead; whereas PCIe 3.0 uses a ‘scrambling’ technology using binary polynomials and a 128b/130b encoding scheme, reducing overhead to 1.5%. So whereas PCIe 2.0 was a natural progression to PCIe 1.x, this is where the new 3.0 specific features are required in terms of processor and chipset.

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Still enough space for 3x cooler..

the 8x slot , is that a intel limitation or something ?
From what I recall, the AMD boards only limit is there is one 4x (full length) PCIe slot on cheaper/economy boards. On the Crosshair/Sabertooth boards the 1st, 3rd, 4th pcie are 16x if only 2 are occupied.. of 3 are occupied the 1st/3rd becomes 8x PCIe 2.0 (equal to 16x PCIe 1.0), with the exception of the Sabertooth R2.0 that has PCIe 3.0 by inclusion of a 3rd party pcie bridge chip.

You think there would be enough space for two of those coolers in there? I'd really rather do that go water and save alot of $$$$
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As the title says, i'm finally upgrading the good old 5870s crossfire as the 1GB VRAM limit is killing bf4. I'm going to buy the beast that is the R290 but I think it might still be a while for the after market coolers. The Gelid Icy Vision Rev.2 looks like it could be the answer, anyone any ideas on how it would perform?

http://www.quietpc.com/gel-icy-visio...FfMctAodJhsArA

Check out this installation video I just made of the Gelid Icy Vision rev2 on my R290
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im gonna sound stupid but when everything is connected such as the fans to the mobo and PSU will i still need to plug in the 6 and 8 pin power to the graphics card for it to still work normally ?
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Old Mar 19, 2014, 01:42 PM   #26
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im gonna sound stupid but when everything is connected such as the fans to the mobo and PSU will i still need to plug in the 6 and 8 pin power to the graphics card for it to still work normally ?
yes.

The fans plug into the header on the board itself.

My gelid on my 290pro has been plugging along quietly since december. I get a nice 1100 core OC out of it without even coming close to the thermal cap. VRM1 is a but warm though.
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check this out
about 2 weeks ago I got my frozencpu.com cooler in for my r290
well that turned into a disaster (it didn't sit flush,due to back workmanship)
and hosed my 2 mth old card ,so I set up a rma with Powercolor
witch was the easiest thing on earth btw.
I had to wait 10 to get my card back but prior to sending it out
raymond(rma mgr) emailed me and said they didn't carry my card
anymore ,and offered me a PCS+ card instead (newer and aftermarket cooler)
Powercolor was great to do my rma with
btw that cooler from frozencpu.com doesn't fit the r290 series cards
even though the say it does(tips of heatpipes will sit on top of memory
heatsinks and prevent the base from sitting flush
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