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Old Jun 11, 2013, 06:51 AM   #91
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Looking at a few sites then it seems there is no native PS3 game support, possible support via a streaming service for PS1 and PS2 titles later but not sure what the point of that is really.

Without this then I'm not going to ditch my main console for a new one and start all over, sure I'd love to own one but it can wait now I think.
It's not "possibly", they have confirmed back in February that backwards compatibility will be handled via Gaikai streaming for all previous Playstation consoles, including the PS3.
I'm not quite sure how that will work for physical games you already own though. Maybe they check the disk and unlock the game in your library ?


In other news, in the midst of all this DRM talk, I'm glad they didn't forget they're also in charge of making wacky commercials:


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Old Jun 11, 2013, 06:57 AM   #92
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All I got to say Is Is I'm getting a PS4.

Jack Tretton, president and CEO of Sony Computer Entertainment America, announced that the company would not try to restrict used game sales. Tretton also said the PS4 would not require a persistent online connection.

"PlayStation 4 disc-based games don't need to be connected online to play or any type of authentication," said Tretton. "If you enjoy playing single-player games offline, PS4 won't require to you check in online period and it won't stop working if you haven't authenticated in 24 hours."
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Jesus, M$ will have to run a lot to catch the PS4.

This generation gets better and better.
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Yup, nothing new at all on either side. I completely agree. I also agree with your statement regarding offline or SP usage as well. In fact I agree with this entire post.
Do you agree that PS4 just won this generation?
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All I got to say Is Is I'm getting a PS4.

Jack Tretton, president and CEO of Sony Computer Entertainment America, announced that the company would not try to restrict used game sales. Tretton also said the PS4 would not require a persistent online connection.

"PlayStation 4 disc-based games don't need to be connected online to play or any type of authentication," said Tretton. "If you enjoy playing single-player games offline, PS4 won't require to you check in online period and it won't stop working if you haven't authenticated in 24 hours."
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Old Jun 11, 2013, 07:18 AM   #97
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Old Jun 11, 2013, 08:10 AM   #98
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Am I right in saying it's going to be $5 per month to play games online on the PS4? or did I just misinterpreted that? Playstation plus.
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Old Jun 11, 2013, 08:18 AM   #99
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Do you agree that PS4 just won this generation?
Definately won this E3, but there is still time for MS to revise their plans, even though that would admit to error..

Also a valid point I heard today is that there is a **** ton of people, who are not represented on the internet, who might not even be aware of these things and just figures the kinect is probably fun for the kids. (friggin kinect Adventures is the 4th most sold game on the yearly global charts over here)
Granted that may be a group of "Wii consumers", ie people who buy the system but dont really keep buying games for it on any tangible scale, which is bad when you´re selling the hardware at a loss.
Then again, the core gamers are probably the consumer group you want, the group that keeps buying all the CODs and whatnots.
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Looking at a few sites then it seems there is no native PS3 game support, possible support via a streaming service for PS1 and PS2 titles later but not sure what the point of that is really.

Without this then I'm not going to ditch my main console for a new one and start all over, sure I'd love to own one but it can wait now I think.
Considering the PS4 is a new architecture and it's only $400, I doubt you will see any PS3 compability.

It's how it is nowadays. Don't expect BC to come back at any point. PS3 will probably be supported for at least a year or two after PS4 launch though.
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It's not "possibly", they have confirmed back in February that backwards compatibility will be handled via Gaikai streaming for all previous Playstation consoles, including the PS3.
I'm not quite sure how that will work for physical games you already own though. Maybe they check the disk and unlock the game in your library ?


In other news, in the midst of all this DRM talk, I'm glad they didn't forget they're also in charge of making wacky commercials:

Haha, couple Diablo 3 references in there at the end (witch doctor and Diablo).

At the moment, my plans are for a PS4 only.
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The only negative, and it's big enough to be a dealbreaker for me, is Sony too putting multiplayer online behind a paywall.
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The PS4 can become the perfect media player.

If only it could read mkv´s .....
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The PS4 can become the perfect media player.

If only it could read mkv´s .....
I have found the use of http://ps3mediaserver.org to render such features useless.

What I find funny is that I use my PS3 mainly for terrestial TV and Netflix. Despite that I'm looking more forward to PS4 than XBONE even though MS touted all these TV features...

So I'm kind of hoping Sony will do another PlayTV receiver for PS4 or making the old one work.
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Good show Playstation. More powerful and comes in at $100 less than the competition. Only real negative I can see is you have to pay for online play now. Doesn't affect me much since I don't do MP, but for others its a real negative compared to what they are used to with PS3. As for backwards compatibility, I gave up on expecting consoles to do that during last gen.

Love the fact they didn't go the XBONE route with the used games policy. That was my only real concern with the new consoles. I still wont be buying a PS4 at launch however. No real interesting exclusives from what I can see yet, though I do have some catching up on all the E3 press so we'll see.

What the hell was Microsoft thinking this gen.
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The only negative, and it's big enough to be a dealbreaker for me, is Sony too putting multiplayer online behind a paywall.
At least with Sony's paywall you get their instant collection of games. Live didn't give you crap aside from some mediocre sale prices every week. If I had a PS I'd most likely pony up the cash just to have access to those games alone as I rarely if ever play multiplayer anymore.

It's not much, but at least it seems like you get more bang for your buck.


Ugh, hate to admit it but I might be switching to Sony this gen.
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I have found the use of http://ps3mediaserver.org to render such features useless.

What I find funny is that I use my PS3 mainly for terrestial TV and Netflix. Despite that I'm looking more forward to PS4 than XBONE even though MS touted all these TV features...

So I'm kind of hoping Sony will do another PlayTV receiver for PS4 or making the old one work.
the need to transcode everything make it troublesome.

It need native support
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Design is ridiculous. Should have made in look like a trash can...
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Design is ridiculous. Should have made in look like a trash can...


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I think it looks pretty cool. Would look slick in my all black tempered glass TV stand. But then again I think the XBONE looks cool as well.

Looks are a very small piece of the equation for me however. Functionality, consumer friendliness, and GAMES is what its all about.
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It looks pretty good to me. I think it is better than that PS3 slope.
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It looks pretty good to me. I think it is better than that PS3 slope.
its better than the ps3 for sure..
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Looks like Sony is starting to backtrack.

http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/11/441...-own-drm-terms
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Looks like Sony is starting to backtrack.

http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/11/441...-own-drm-terms
Thats not backtracking.
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Looks like Sony is starting to backtrack.

http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/11/441...-own-drm-terms
That is what they have been saying from the start and it doesn't differ in anyway of the current policies on PS3/360. You just have to face the facts that MS ****ed up and Sony went the right way.
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Thats not backtracking.
Saying that no PS4 disc will have DRM, and then saying...oh wait the publishers can do what they want...we only meant that no first-party titles will have it.

Yeah, that's backtracking.
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Now where was the button to ignore someone in this forum? I don't seem to find it anymore.
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no its not.

its no different to the system in place on ps3/360 and no publisher in their right mind will enforce a batshit insane system like the one currently in place on xbone. nothing like that is happening on ps4.

you are grasping at straws now.

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Now where was the button to ignore someone in this forum? I don't seem to find it anymore.
you gotta go to their profile page, just click crash's name and you'll get there.
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