New ATI Eyefinity 5 (yes FIVE)

@md_Guy · Mar 5, 2010, 09:51 AM

hmm now really .. I see the total applicability for productivity and MAYBE 3x1 with Crossfire.. but 5 displays ?? From a lone 5770 ??
I'm betting traders and such will snap these babies up..

spyre · Mar 5, 2010, 10:08 AM

1 x 5 is a valid combo since the center view is in the middle monitor. Although you cant do 1920 x 1080 for all 5 unless they are in portrait as it would exceed 8000 pixels otherwise. You can do 1600 x 1200 for each of the 5 monitors in landscape.

caveman-jim · Mar 5, 2010, 10:13 AM

Given rumors of Apple switching from the 4850 to the 5750 this might be of interest to them as well.

aRandomRobot · Mar 5, 2010, 11:12 AM

Well if you want a lot of displays from a single card then it the HD5770 is a much better buy than this (is): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814139047

Or even this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814139055

Dwarden · Mar 5, 2010, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aRandomRobot

Well if you want a lot of displays from a single card then it is a much better buy than this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814139047

Or even this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814139055

hardly better it's not DX11 and slower ...

anyway i doubt that 5770 has power to run anything more than 5x1024x768 w/o AA

this acceptable as good for work or media ...

HQwHD a lot monitors gaming ... 5970 or higher ...

aRandomRobot · Mar 5, 2010, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwarden

hardly better it's not DX11 and slower ...

anyway i doubt that 5770 has power to run anything more than 5x1024x768 w/o AA

this acceptable as good for work or media ...

HQwHD a lot monitors gaming ... 5970 or higher ...

I'm don't think you read my post quite right because I'm certainly not saying people should spend $200 on a dual 8400GS card that uses A FREAKING PCI SLOT. The HD5770 card is CLEARLY a much better card.

However, that being said most of these cards that support 4 or more displays are mostly aimed at small work computers that only have a single PCI-e port (or as the case with the 8400 card, no PCI-e ports at all). For these kinds of setups gaming performance isn't the point.

@md_Guy · Mar 6, 2010, 03:06 AM

I could see this doing some serious hurt to Matrox's bottom line...

caveman-jim · Mar 6, 2010, 09:13 PM

Only if the price of DisplayPort monitors comes down, or the cost of Active Display port to DVI adapters drops significantly (i.e. into the $20 range).

5 Display Port output means you can use two Mini-DP to DVI adapters, but you still need three Active DisplayPort to DVI adapters, or three DisplayPort monitors. And from what I've been hearing the Active DP-DVI adapters aren't just plug and go, you need to have the right firmware on them etc.

@md_Guy · Mar 6, 2010, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caveman-jim

Only if the price of DisplayPort monitors comes down, or the cost of Active Display port to DVI adapters drops significantly (i.e. into the $20 range).

5 Display Port output means you can use two Mini-DP to DVI adapters, but you still need three Active DisplayPort to DVI adapters, or three DisplayPort monitors. And from what I've been hearing the Active DP-DVI adapters aren't just plug and go, you need to have the right firmware on them etc.

isn't the use of active ($70-100 usb powered) DP adapters only required for displays over 1900x1600 ? So I would imagine that this card could drive 5 19x16 displays . I can't recall if it's upto (and including 1900x1600) or displays under 19x16 (such as 2048x1080 and etc). I'm also not sure as how DP 1.3 (which added daisy chaining) would work on the HD5 sereis being they are DP 1.2.. can the DP part be updated via software (driver/firmware/bios) or are there actual differences in the DP hardware .. in which case I think it might be at least until the refresh of the next gen (HD6 ?) we see ATI cards with it.

spyre · Mar 7, 2010, 05:25 AM

No you need active ones regardless of the screen resolution.

@md_Guy · Mar 7, 2010, 06:08 AM

Its kind of confusing when there are multiple threads at H and WSG that have numerous people saying they've had no problems using passive DP to VGA to enable Eyefinity not to mention that ATI's dongle validation page: (http://support.amd.com/us/eyefinity/...y-dongles.aspx) shows otherwise.. it seems it's still painfully obvious while Eyefinity is "keen" and has it's purposes.. the requirements for expensive adapters places out it reach or adds substantially to the initial cost.. suddenly a $200 5 port 5770 becomes $500-600 .. just stupid really..

spyre · Mar 7, 2010, 07:34 AM

I was excluding VGA before since most normal people would be using DVI or HDMI.

VGA can get by with a passive one but only for certain resolutions, otherwise it requires an active VGA converter. DVI or HDMI requires a active one for any resolution if you are using more than 2 displays at once.

Nunz · Mar 7, 2010, 09:45 AM

normal people....

... fail

spyre · Mar 7, 2010, 10:09 AM

The majority of people don't use CRT monitors these days nevermind having 3 or more of them for Eyefinity, so yes 'normal' people use LCD's. CRT's in Eyefinity would have even bigger bezels than LCD's.

OneCoolAMD · Mar 7, 2010, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spyre

CRT's in Eyefinity would have even bigger bezels than LCD's.

So I can LMFAO

spyre · Mar 7, 2010, 11:12 AM

The best pic I could find is someone using a matrox2go with 3x CRTs. Close enough I guess for demonstration purposes.

I feel sorry for the desk having to take the weight of those.

I'd like to see someone attempt a 2 x 3 Eyefinity setup with 6 CRTs

Zetsumei · Mar 7, 2010, 01:10 PM

Don't forget that a lot of the super cheap lcd's still only have a vga connection rather than a dvi one for some reason.

For 120 dollar you can get a 1080p 22" el cheapo acer with only a vga connection. For superwide gaming or office work requiring a lot of screen real estate those screens actually do quite fine.

A lot of gamers that i know care more for resolution and price, rather than image quality. And exactly that group probably wouldn't want to purchase a 100 dollar active converter. I actually ended up getting 2 gamers a new videocard purely for the reason that the cheap ass dp to vga converters work.

bill dennison · Mar 8, 2010, 08:04 PM

hmm fallout 3 with 5 screens
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...3&postcount=27

Treeckcold57 · Mar 8, 2010, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill dennison

hmm fallout 3 with 5 screens
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...3&postcount=27

Don't forget also two monitors can still working with Eyefinity gaming as well.

But I know the two monitors sounds horrible but it just working great anyway. And I think 4 monitors can do it the same thing. lol

EmpTe · Mar 10, 2010, 10:47 AM

Why have 5, when you can run 6 from one 5870

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/gra...ti-eyefinity/1

@md_Guy · Mar 10, 2010, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmpTe

Why have 5, when you can run 6 from one 5870

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/gra...ti-eyefinity/1

well being that the 5870 costs upwards of 2-3X as much for one extra screen might be a HUGE reason why.. I'd personally LOVE it if ATI could enable Eyefinity+Crossfire across multiple displays... then you could have each card drive 3+ displays.. a 5770 CFX would simply rock in price comparison.

caveman-jim · Mar 10, 2010, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by @md_Guy

I'd personally LOVE it if ATI could enable Eyefinity+Crossfire across multiple displays... .

Multi-card attached displays in CrossFireX would require split frame rendering at the least, I would think. Good job the Catalyst boys are working on that as a new feature....

@md_Guy · Mar 10, 2010, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caveman-jim

Multi-card attached displays in CrossFireX would require split frame rendering at the least, I would think. Good job the Catalyst boys are working on that as a new feature....

thats awesome to hear it is in the works !!

Treeckcold57 · Mar 10, 2010, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caveman-jim

Multi-card attached displays in CrossFireX would require split frame rendering at the least, I would think. Good job the Catalyst boys are working on that as a new feature....

Sweet! But I don't have a 5xxx card yet. I will buy it someday.

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Mar 5, 2010, 10:08 AM	#2
spyre ATI Beta Tester Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: England Posts: 18,438	1 x 5 is a valid combo since the center view is in the middle monitor. Although you cant do 1920 x 1080 for all 5 unless they are in portrait as it would exceed 8000 pixels otherwise. You can do 1600 x 1200 for each of the 5 monitors in landscape. __________________ I do work for AMD AMD/ATI Beta Tester

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Mar 5, 2010, 11:12 AM	#4
aRandomRobot Returned Lurker Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Salem, OR Posts: 1,331	Well if you want a lot of displays from a single card then it the HD5770 is a much better buy than this (is): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814139047 Or even this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814139055 Last edited by aRandomRobot : Mar 5, 2010 at 05:35 PM. Reason: Clarification

Mar 5, 2010, 10:13 AM	#3
caveman-jim Deposed King of Rage3D Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 48,999	Given rumors of Apple switching from the 4850 to the 5750 this might be of interest to them as well.

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Mar 6, 2010, 03:06 AM	#7
@md_Guy <strike>out</strike> Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 4,791	I could see this doing some serious hurt to Matrox's bottom line... __________________ Fermi Paradox*: "The apparent size and age of Fermi die suggests that many technologically advanced GPUs ought to exist. However, this hypothesis seems inconsistent with the lack of observational evidence to support it."

Mar 6, 2010, 09:13 PM	#8
caveman-jim Deposed King of Rage3D Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 48,999	Only if the price of DisplayPort monitors comes down, or the cost of Active Display port to DVI adapters drops significantly (i.e. into the $20 range). 5 Display Port output means you can use two Mini-DP to DVI adapters, but you still need three Active DisplayPort to DVI adapters, or three DisplayPort monitors. And from what I've been hearing the Active DP-DVI adapters aren't just plug and go, you need to have the right firmware on them etc.

Mar 7, 2010, 05:25 AM	#10
spyre ATI Beta Tester Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: England Posts: 18,438	No you need active ones regardless of the screen resolution. __________________ I do work for AMD AMD/ATI Beta Tester

Mar 7, 2010, 06:08 AM	#11
@md_Guy <strike>out</strike> Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 4,791	Its kind of confusing when there are multiple threads at H and WSG that have numerous people saying they've had no problems using passive DP to VGA to enable Eyefinity not to mention that ATI's dongle validation page: (http://support.amd.com/us/eyefinity/...y-dongles.aspx) shows otherwise.. it seems it's still painfully obvious while Eyefinity is "keen" and has it's purposes.. the requirements for expensive adapters places out it reach or adds substantially to the initial cost.. suddenly a $200 5 port 5770 becomes $500-600 .. just stupid really.. __________________ Fermi Paradox: "The apparent size and age of Fermi die suggests that many technologically advanced GPUs ought to exist. However, this hypothesis seems inconsistent with the lack of observational evidence to support it." Last edited by @md_Guy : Mar 7, 2010 at 06:17 AM.*

Mar 7, 2010, 07:34 AM	#12
spyre ATI Beta Tester Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: England Posts: 18,438	I was excluding VGA before since most normal people would be using DVI or HDMI. VGA can get by with a passive one but only for certain resolutions, otherwise it requires an active VGA converter. DVI or HDMI requires a active one for any resolution if you are using more than 2 displays at once. __________________ I do work for AMD AMD/ATI Beta Tester

Mar 7, 2010, 10:09 AM	#14
spyre ATI Beta Tester Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: England Posts: 18,438	The majority of people don't use CRT monitors these days nevermind having 3 or more of them for Eyefinity, so yes 'normal' people use LCD's. CRT's in Eyefinity would have even bigger bezels than LCD's. __________________ I do work for AMD AMD/ATI Beta Tester

Mar 7, 2010, 11:12 AM	#16
spyre ATI Beta Tester Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: England Posts: 18,438	The best pic I could find is someone using a matrox2go with 3x CRTs. Close enough I guess for demonstration purposes. I feel sorry for the desk having to take the weight of those. I'd like to see someone attempt a 2 x 3 Eyefinity setup with 6 CRTs __________________ I do work for AMD AMD/ATI Beta Tester Last edited by spyre : Mar 7, 2010 at 11:15 AM.

Mar 7, 2010, 01:10 PM	#17
Zetsumei Rage3D Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,260	Don't forget that a lot of the super cheap lcd's still only have a vga connection rather than a dvi one for some reason. For 120 dollar you can get a 1080p 22" el cheapo acer with only a vga connection. For superwide gaming or office work requiring a lot of screen real estate those screens actually do quite fine. A lot of gamers that i know care more for resolution and price, rather than image quality. And exactly that group probably wouldn't want to purchase a 100 dollar active converter. I actually ended up getting 2 gamers a new videocard purely for the reason that the cheap ass dp to vga converters work. Last edited by Zetsumei : Mar 7, 2010 at 01:16 PM.

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