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Radeon HD 4830
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Bilbao(Spain)
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I tried to flash my bios with "Flashradeonv201" and i chose an 8500 retail pal original bios. My crd is an 8500LE built by ati, 250/250 hinyx 3,6 64MB. The problem is that that program failto flash the bios giving an error wich said "the data is not erased" but after this it shows Flahsing Ok, reboot... I rebooted and my 8500 is not recognized and the mobo "cries". Normal bios are 50 KB but the "bios" which my card has is 130KB and i cant erase or do anything. Now im usin an S3virge pci to try something but without succes. I need a hand . |
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Radeon HD 4600
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Canada
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First of all get a pci card so you can boot to dos at least. Second download atiflash and new bios, if you are in North America use NTSC if not use PAL. Boot to dos and run atiflash, it should see your ati card in the agp slot. After flash shut down and unplug. Remove pci vid card and then re-boot. That should fix it.
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Radeon HD 4830
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Bilbao(Spain)
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thanks, but where can i find "atiflash"? i heard that they dont give suport to flashing bios no matter, i just find it. Ill try and then repost. Last edited by SirJpg : Nov 5, 2002 at 02:14 PM. |
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Radeon HD 4600
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Canada
Posts: 92
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Radeon HD 4830
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Bilbao(Spain)
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thanks, i just find it and submit hehehe Ill try...
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Radeon HD 4830
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Bilbao(Spain)
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It doesnt work. When i execute the program, says: Serial Rom _ and nothing more!!! What can I do? ![]()
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Join Date: Jun 2002
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Did you try my suggestion?
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Radeon HD 4830
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Bilbao(Spain)
Posts: 107
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yes, since the begining. The problem is that the "big bios" is empty and the flasher cant erase it. The Atiflash stunt when i try to do anything
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Radeon HD 4830
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Bilbao(Spain)
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please any sugestions?? i dont know wht to do and dont find nothing more to do?
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Santa Ana, Ca
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Sir Jpg You have multiple problems going on. If you haven't got your problems sorted out by now then Email me at MarginJohn@Yahoo.Com and I will try to help you out of this mess. John |
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Radeon HD 4830
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Bilbao(Spain)
Posts: 107
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Need help, always the same error: Data not erased; Must to change something in the mobo, even in the radeon??
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Radeon HD 4600
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Canada
Posts: 92
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Make sure your 8500 is securely plugged in, if not it will not read your vid bios properly, also try setting the motherboard bios settings to failsafe default.
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Radeon HD 4830
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Bilbao(Spain)
Posts: 107
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Are you married? blkskull? I LOVE YOUU It works and now i have a Radeon8500RETAIL Thanks to all for your atention and help The strange is that such a ****ing problem has a solution so simple Next time ill try the very first, things like this "of lesser technical requirements hehehe" Bye and thnx to all
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Radeon HD 4600
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Canada
Posts: 92
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I'ts usually the simplest solution that works for a lot of problems, we just sometimes tend to overlook them. Glad you got your problem fixed.
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Santa Ana, Ca
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I responded to your Email to me but it looks like you got your problem solved. Specifically in some instances the reason you can't erase or flash your bios is because you have Video Rom Shadowing enabled in your System Bios. What was happening was the Flash program was trying to erase and flash the shadowed copy of the cards bios that was residing in system memory. When you went to fail-safe settings in your system Bios that disabled the Video Shadowing and the flash program was actually able to write to the cards EEPROM instead of the trying to write the video memory shadow. System Rom Shadow, Video Rom Shadow, System Rom Caching and Video Rom caching are all obsolete DOS enhancing settings that are no longer needed with Windows 95 or later operating systems because they do not use system or video bios calls. Enabling these settings when running Win95 or later can cause system instability/problems and memory conflicts as well under certain circumstances. The above being a good example. These settings worked great for DOS and Window 3.1 back in the days when ROM bios of any kind was slower than molasses running uphill during an arctic winter. Todays EPROM's and EEPROM's are every bit as fast or faster than system memory and often just as fast as cache memory as well so even when working in DOS they can actually slow you down instead of speeding you up. FlashRadeon uses an older version of the ATIflash program and it can cause problems sometime from what I have read in these forums. The later versions of ATIflash.exe are reliable and easy to use from the command line. They are also a hell of a lot faster than FlashRadeon when running from a floppy. John Last edited by MarginJohn : Nov 6, 2002 at 06:36 PM. |
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Radeon HD 4830
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Bilbao(Spain)
Posts: 107
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yeah, i fixed it but with a lot of help. Thanks for the bios rom system settings advices, ill turn off all. About the speed of the program, what i made was to boot froom a W98se cd, without cd compatibility and from Dos system, enter the hd wich is hell faster than the floppy. Now im trying to decide if i make the voltage mod or not hehehe
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Radeon HD 4550
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Central Honshu, Iga Perfecture
Posts: 38
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Hi, Can somebody suggest which bios version to use? I have a Joytech Apollo 8500LE 250/250 european ver. (PAL), which works nice, but i can't get past the 6000 3dmark score and want to upgrade to retail. Bios ID: 113-85704-103 Bios ver: 1009 I have several retail bios roms (both original and tweaked) but i'm not sure which one to use.. Thanks, T.
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Radeon HD 4830
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Bilbao(Spain)
Posts: 107
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I would try the 1009 Reatil bios which it seems to be one of the best or maybe the 7008 but for more information click HERE
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Porto Alegre - Brazil
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I try Flash my Radeon 8500 Bios... but i can't, I made a Flash Bios in Win98SE, but now I have only a winXP in my HD. |
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Radeon HD 4830
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Bilbao(Spain)
Posts: 107
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Yes i do hehehe but with a "small trick". First i configured my mobo to start from the CD-Rom. Then i put a W98SE on the cd-rom and chose start with no cd compliance ( faster) so : A: is ram disk B: is your floppy etc But since i dont use my floppy i go to my hd and start the flash program from there , which is faster very faster than the floppy a, if your keyboard is not well configured, you can execute "keyb xx" where xx is your country´s configuration.Bye and good luck ![]()
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Porto Alegre - Brazil
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HELLLLLPPPPP! I made a Flash .. and reebot, and not happens.... my monitor don't display nothing...... I my God.... I broke my video card???? ( for this message I use a notebook ) Help me please!! Last edited by vini : Nov 12, 2002 at 05:24 PM. |
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Santa Ana, Ca
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Vini don't panic. What kind of card do you have? Built by ATI or Powered by ATI .... 64Mb or 128Mb, etc. What operating system? John |
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Radeon HD 4830
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Bilbao(Spain)
Posts: 107
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Try doing what i did, thanks to the people of the forum: Try re-flashing the bios but this time put heavily the card onto the agp port like i did and try Margin´s mobo settings.
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Radeon HD 4850
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Virginia Tech
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Porto Alegre - Brazil
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SirJpg, i'm calm now.. and read all posts in this topic...I try now rebbot with 2 videocards; one PCI and other Radeon 8500 in AGP Slot.. and try reflashing now with the original retail and not the improve Bios... (thanks |
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Porto Alegre - Brazil
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Hip HIP HURRA! I solved.. with a PCI video Card... Now a new Bios settings with a PAL-M brazilian TV! Muchas Gracias SirJpg! Valeu! |
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Radeon HD 4830
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Bilbao(Spain)
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De nada hombre!!! Estamos para ayudar, in english, spanish, vasque(euskera), portugues hehehe even chines ![]()
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Radeon HD 4350
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 21
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DUDE!!! I flashed my Ati Radeon 8500LE 128MB DDR with retail and its scrwed, garbled messages on the screen....its horrable!!! ARGH!!!! I tried many bios still no luck, i can't even volt mod it, the mem won't even take 240 and then it artifacts .....now its horriable...please help...i can't violt mod it because look, www.japuram.com/card/ |
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Radeon HD 4830
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Bilbao(Spain)
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What u need is a bios for an 8500 128 megs radeon. About the mem...if your mem is 4ns you ont be able to reach a lot of speed ![]()
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