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Old Aug 6, 2020, 05:32 PM   #1
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Moved my office in my house to a room more suited for that purpose, especially since I'm now working from home until likely next year some time. I was using a 49" Sony X900F, and it was fantastic...but I'm sitting at my desk like a normal person now and that's overkill.

This won't be the primary PC gaming rig since I still have the Sony in the other room, which is now strictly a movie/gaming space (gaming PC in my sig is in that room). The office will be productivity, but also some gaming here and there if the mood strikes me or a particular games is better at a desk. I've already built a 2nd PC with my other hardware, and one of my 1080Ti's will be going in it whenever I get my hands on a new 3080Ti. I kind of want want to dabble in something different, like higher refresh rates. If I do go 4k, it should probably have GSYNC.

Considering a variety of options, and I'll be sitting ~30" from the display(s). Budget is ~$1000, but I'd be willing to splurge on a VERY good display if it hits every criteria and is perfect.

1. 27" 2560x1440
2. 32" 4k
3. No curved displays

I've been looking for a week now at different options and countless reviews/videos. Curious what you guys think are good monitors in these options, and why.
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Old Aug 6, 2020, 06:55 PM   #2
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As someone who now regularly works on their gaming setup more than I game as I work from home now. Loving having an ultra-wide vs the triple(technically 4 if I include the laptop's screen and 5 if I also include my trouble shooting screen) setup I have at my office desk.

Not as much workspace, but I don't really miss it. The 21:9 is like having 2 x 5:4 monitors in a single screen. Snapping windows around is WAY more functional in this aspect ratio as such I just don't find the need to have 3 screens.

SOooo imho..

1. 60hz...., no... Although potentially affordably awesome.
2. Nicer resolution to work at for the size.
3. If your considering dual screens, look at 21:9 or 32:9 instead(although 32:9 is la pricey unless you find a sale)
4. , but will feel giant given the distance.
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LG 34GN850 has just been released which is a refresh of my current display (34GK950F). 160hz, 21:9, IPS, 3440x1440, 1ms, Freesync+Gsync support.


Or if budget allows, look at the 38" versions with 3840x1600 resolution. Two models, the 38GL950G (Gsync module) and 38WN95C-W (Freesync+Gsync). I'd probably choose the latter due to price.
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I've looked at ultrawide quite a bit the past week. I even went as far as cutting out cardboard representations of the exact screen size of the 34" and 38" models and taped them on the wall in front my desk. I just don't care for the width vs height. They're not tall enough, I think it would be annoying to play games on them, odd resolution for video content, and I can't stand curved screens.

Maybe I need to see one in person, but that's currently impossible.




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I think you need to see them in person. Initially height was an issue for folk that still want to work on these monitors but the resolutions have improved such that should not be an issue anymore.
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I absolutely love 21:9, perfect for gaming and can't go back. I also didn't like curved at first, but it makes sense on these displays. I would never use curved on 16:9 displays or TV, but it looks right on 21:9 monitor. I had the same reservations as you, but I'm 100% converted to 21:9 curved now.
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Unless you are buying a CX OLED, wait for this.

https://videocardz.com/press-release...gaming-monitor


It'd be kinda silly to not buy something without HDMI 2.1 right now.
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Unless you are buying a CX OLED, wait for this.

https://videocardz.com/press-release...gaming-monitor


It'd be kinda silly to not buy something without HDMI 2.1 right now.
If I go that route, I'd probably entertain the idea if it had any chance of being in my price range. The current ones can still do 4k 120Hz, just not maximizing all the settings (4:4:4, 10bit, HDR). Not that anyone has a chance in hell in running 120fps in 4k any time soon anyway. It'll be years before you could, and that TV will be outdated anyway. So it seems entirely pointless, IMO.
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LG CX 48 should be right up your alley and budget.
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LG CX 48 should be right up your alley and budget.
Except it's not right up my alley, as mentioned in my original post.

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And also, OLED is completely out of the question for my application. It's an automatic no.
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If I go that route, I'd probably entertain the idea if it had any chance of being in my price range. The current ones can still do 4k 120Hz, just not maximizing all the settings (4:4:4, 10bit, HDR). Not that anyone has a chance in hell in running 120fps in 4k any time soon anyway. It'll be years before you could, and that TV will be outdated anyway. So it seems entirely pointless, IMO.
Then wait until fall/winter until a bunch more 2.1 HDMI devices come out to support consoles. There's really not much out there right now for what you are seeking that is a worthwhile purchase.
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What is wrong with OLED? You have a 43 inch in there and 48 vs 43 is not that big of a difference.
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Just be aware that current 43" 4k monitors have a weird pixel lay out of BRG instead of RGB, making text look bad. Not sure about the new ASUS that's been announced, though.

Honestly, go with 21:9 for desktop monitor imho. Leave 16:9 for TV. Those 38" LG models look sexy.
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Then wait until fall/winter until a bunch more 2.1 HDMI devices come out to support consoles. There's really not much out there right now for what you are seeking that is a worthwhile purchase.
I don't think we're on the same page here. Console systems are completely irrelevant to this thread. I have a setup in a different room for console games and movies.
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What is wrong with OLED? You have a 43 inch in there and 48 vs 43 is not that big of a difference.
OLED has anti-brightness limiters I can't stand and a few other things native to the tech that bug me for a dedicated computer monitor. 43" is arguably too big too, but I added it in at the end because it was a remote consideration. I'll remove it.

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Just be aware that current 43" 4k monitors have a weird pixel lay out of BRG instead of RGB, making text look bad. Not sure about the new ASUS that's been announced, though.

Honestly, go with 21:9 for desktop monitor imho. Leave 16:9 for TV. Those 38" LG models look sexy.
Yeah, I'm torn on the 21:9 displays. I THINK it would be nice to have either one, but I keep thinking video content would look goofy on it. Black bars and such.
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I don't think we're on the same page here. Console systems are completely irrelevant to this thread. I have a setup in a different room for console games and movies.
I understand, but consoles will utilize HDMI 2.1, thus making people finally bring it to usable products for you and me for PC. I'm not saying use it for console, I'm saying because consoles are coming out, and they use HDMI 2.1, manufactures will put it into products we will want to use.
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Displayport is already capable of 4K 120, or even higher 4K 160. What's the point of waiting for HDMI then? GPUs aren't going to stop having Displayport any time soon.

LG just put out a 27" 4K 160Hz monitor that I was eyeing. I used to roll with 21:9 and did not like it due to poor support for the aspect ratio. That has changed now a days, but I find a larger monitor like that gives me an issue with focusing as it's just so much to look at.

LG 27GN950. The 950-b is a 144Hz. As far as I can tell the 950 is out of stock or not available yet. Either way, it should be shipping very soon.
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I too had massive issues with UW including eye strain and poor support. The corner of eye stretching and/or HUD issues and/or proper vertical alignment issues etc drove me insane. Don’t know the current state of affairs but my time with a 34” isn’t something I miss.

I would do 32-35 inch 16:9 4K 120 Hz if there is such a thing. When I looked there wasn’t anything available and that too at a reasonable cost and so I went with the OLED.
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I too had massive issues with UW including eye strain and poor support. The corner of eye stretching and/or HUD issues and/or proper vertical alignment issues etc drove me insane. Don’t know the current state of affairs but my time with a 34” isn’t something I miss.

I would do 32-35 inch 16:9 4K 120 Hz if there is such a thing. When I looked there wasn’t anything available and that too at a reasonable cost and so I went with the OLED.
Yeah, finding a decent OLED looks like so much fun in your other thread. Definite pass for me.


Seriously though, I'm having a hard time getting on the ultrawide bandwagon. It's just a goofy resolution and the smaller displays are just too narrow. 32" 4k seems like the sweet spot for me. 4k 120Hz isn't really a deal breaker, I'd gladly trade 120Hz for higher resolution if it's the only option in that size.

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Office/productivity and light gaming? I was in the same boat. For office/productivity use you do not need a fancy gaming monitor even for light gaming.

Just the basics like a good 27 - 32" display (depending on how far you're sitting) , a true IPS panel to ensure you get good color, and 144hz freesync. Or just 144hz by itself, which is great for general productivity use not just gaming.


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Displayport is already capable of 4K 120, or even higher 4K 160. What's the point of waiting for HDMI then? GPUs aren't going to stop having Displayport any time soon.

LG just put out a 27" 4K 160Hz monitor that I was eyeing. I used to roll with 21:9 and did not like it due to poor support for the aspect ratio. That has changed now a days, but I find a larger monitor like that gives me an issue with focusing as it's just so much to look at.

LG 27GN950. The 950-b is a 144Hz. As far as I can tell the 950 is out of stock or not available yet. Either way, it should be shipping very soon.
The LG is nice, but it's an IPS. One of my biggest complaints are the blacks on IPS, so much I regret my AD27QD. Great for color accuracy, and and viewing angles, but VA has made so much improvement in color accuracy, that you migh aswell get those better blacks.

If I was buying a monitor today (and im in the market aswell despite just dropping $600 on the AD27QD) I'd go with VA or OLED. Something with FALD would be good, but OLED is taking over that segment it seems. FALD is simply too expensive unless you are doing an U-UW.

Also I agree with OCN, 32" 4k is probably the next sweet spot up from 27 QHD. 27" 4k is going to be far too low, even with windows at 125%.
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Yeah, finding a decent OLED looks like so much fun in your other thread. Definite pass for me.


Seriously though, I'm having a hard time getting on the ultrawide bandwagon. It's just a goofy resolution and the smaller displays are just too narrow. 32" 4k seems like the sweet spot for me. 4k 120Hz isn't really a deal breaker, I'd gladly trade 120Hz for higher resolution if it's the only option in that size.

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What I am experiencing is not an issue with 48/55 inch panels.
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I have money to burn, I guess. Looking for the criteria above. If I don't get what I really want, I'm going to regret it.


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At first glance, this doesn't seem too bad...

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Is limiting yourself to 60hz a good idea?

Even the console are shedding their 60hz limitations with the xbox XSXSXSXSXSXXS and the PS5.

Embrace the HZ!
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If you've been playing on 60hz, it'll be fine. If you've been playing on 120 hz/144 it's going to be miserable.

Based of your original post. This is probably the only recommendations I could give. If you must blow the money now, but I'm telling you I'd wait 3-4 months. IT sucks I know, but there's going to be quite a few releases coming out.

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Is limiting yourself to 60hz a good idea?

Even the console are shedding their 60hz limitations with the xbox XSXSXSXSXSXXS and the PS5.

Embrace the HZ!
But it's not for console gaming. I will NEVER hook a console up to this display.

And I think it will be at least 2-3 years yet before we can honestly run any PC games at 4k 120Hz. It's off-topic, but the consoles will NOT be running 4k 120Hz either on any AAA games, I don't care what the marketing claims.

I admit that the future-proof aspect would be nice, but it's not really a deal killer for me.
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Yeah going from 4 year old 28" ips to 32" VA samsung panel sold by Dell I didnt see any loss of color and its viewing angles are fine. Sure some detail when close up (less than 12" from the screen which isnt practical) are missing due to going from 4k down to 1440p and upping to 32" but having 165hz now after almost 20 years of 60z Id say anything thats 1000$ and still 60hz should be a non starter. 144hz+ along with freesync its a huge diff.

I mean there are quite a few 144 hz panels at 500$ now so why downgrade for a namebrand? Just make sure the panel is well sourced.
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I'll be stopping by the local Best Buy tomorrow to swap out a mouse. Going to try and check out some of the monitors while I'm there. Hopefully get a short sample of everything.

Thanks for the suggestions so far guys. Not sure I'm any closer to making a decision yet, but it'll probably help to see some of these things in person.
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