Official Ryzen 3000 Series Owner's Thread

[CurrentlyPissed]

Originally Posted by Nunz

Why is the ASUS bios a joke? Their UEFI BIOS has been by far the best out of any other board manufacturer

Updates and functionality/compatibility. The UEFI itself is fine.

[barleystout]

Don’t know if this will help anyone else, but I took some notes from the Jay2Cents’ video. Since I will probably be getting the C8H board, here are the suggested default voltages from the video. These values are mentioned around the 4 minute mark.

CPU Core Voltage: 1.273-1.3V

CPU SOC Voltage: 1.2V

DRAM Voltage: 1.2-1.35V

CLDO VDDG Voltage: 1.0V

SB Voltage: 1.0V

PLL Voltage: 1.8V

He covers what they did for their overclock at about 17:55. It wasn’t much but might be helpful.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by wabbitslayer

Hopefully you got it in store. If not, good luck...

https://forums.bestbuy.com/t5/BestBu...s/td-p/1301818


My cpu from newegg is "on truck for delivery"

I’m actually out of the country until the 22nd. I just got notification from Best Buy that my order will ship by the 22nd, so that’s fine by me

[Seyiji]

Originally Posted by barleystout

Don’t know if this will help anyone else, but I took some notes from the Jay2Cents’ video. Since I will probably be getting the C8H board, here are the suggested default voltages from the video. These values are mentioned around the 4 minute mark.

CPU Core Voltage: 1.273-1.3V

CPU SOC Voltage: 1.2V

DRAM Voltage: 1.2-1.35V

CLDO VDDG Voltage: 1.0V

SB Voltage: 1.0V

PLL Voltage: 1.8V

He covers what they did for their overclock at about 17:55. It wasn’t much but might be helpful.

So you're saying my vcore or whatever shouldn't be hitting 1.5v stock? When encoding videos?

Also is this cpu supposed to be idling at 3.6 to 4.3Ghz with the balanced ryzen power plan?

[Evileh]

Originally Posted by Seyiji

So you're saying my vcore or whatever shouldn't be hitting 1.5v stock? When encoding videos?

Also is this cpu supposed to be idling at 3.6 to 4.3Ghz with the balanced ryzen power plan?

You're not supposed to use balanced ryzen plan on any chip but 1st gen ryzen as windows has all of that built in already.

[acroig]

Originally Posted by Seyiji

Also is this cpu supposed to be idling at 3.6 to 4.3Ghz with the balanced ryzen power plan?

Originally Posted by Evileh

You're not supposed to use balanced ryzen plan on any chip but 1st gen ryzen as windows has all of that built in already.

Nub princess.

[Seyiji]

Originally Posted by Evileh

You're not supposed to use balanced ryzen plan on any chip but 1st gen ryzen as windows has all of that built in already.

AMD_Robert said on reddit that 1st and 2nd gen need not apply but 3rd gen is supposed to use the plan >:E

https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...of&sh=1da42c47

[0091/2]

Originally Posted by Seyiji

AMD_Robert said on reddit that 1st and 2nd gen need not apply but 3rd gen is supposed to use the plan >:E

https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...of&sh=1da42c47

The problem is monitoring apps aren't detecting the cpu accurately. The cpu is changing states faster than the app can detect.

[barleystout]

Originally Posted by Seyiji

So you're saying my vcore or whatever shouldn't be hitting 1.5v stock? When encoding videos?

Also is this cpu supposed to be idling at 3.6 to 4.3Ghz with the balanced ryzen power plan?

I think it’s like 0091/2 said. And in the second edit of his post, AMD_Robert mentioned that 1.4-1.5V is normal for boosting.

The Jay2Cents video in post 18 mentions that the ASUS BIOS for the C8H came with incorrect settings for the voltages I mentioned in my previous post. Some were too high for default. I was just noting the default values that he was recommending in the video.

Also, I’m by no means an expert at this. It’s been awhile. Hahaha

[Seyiji]

Originally Posted by 0091/2

The problem is monitoring apps aren't detecting the cpu accurately. The cpu is changing states faster than the app can detect.

So stop worrying and wait until app developers update their **** gotcha 🐍

[0091/2]

Originally Posted by Seyiji

So stop worrying and wait until app developers update their **** gotcha ��

AMD recommends Ryzenmaster utility for monitoring and with no other monitoring app on.

[Nascar24]

Dam you newegg! Guess I shouldn't have went with free shipping. Looks like I'm the only one going for the ASRock Extreme 4.

[Greasy]

No 3900x in stock anywhere.

Guess it's not that big of a deal since destiny 2 still doesn't work on these, and there aren't enough MB reviews out yet. I keep checking techpowerup, since they almost always review these, but nothing so far aside from the review boards they were sent.

[Nascar24]

Destiny 2 issue has been found and surprisingly it needs to be fixed with a bios update.

[Talon_262]

3700X and MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus.

Mobo came in yesterday, CPU just came today; it'll be at least tomorrow before I do the swap, because I'm at work till 2200.

[Greasy]

Originally Posted by Nascar24

Destiny 2 issue has been found and surprisingly it needs to be fixed with a bios update.

Saw that a bit ago. That's crazy!

[DeathKnight]

Originally Posted by DeathKnight

7531 in Time Spy FWIW: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37581508?

CPU score 9755

Ran Fire Strike

18859 vs 14281 on my previous setup

Notable difference was the physics CPU score. Nearly a 200% increase over an i5-2500k OC'd to 4.4GHz (23425 vs 7971)

[demo]

That's a worthy upgrade, nice one.

[CurrentlyPissed]

Originally Posted by Nascar24

Destiny 2 issue has been found and surprisingly it needs to be fixed with a bios update.

Buildzoid has pretty much every board broken down if your into the tech side of things.

[Napoleonic]

How the hell does a game need bios update just for a new cpu? Goddamnit, thankfully it's only one game. I wonder why and what other games need such a thing if there's any?

Is there any comparison review on msi Meg x570 Ace yet? Especially regarding the chipset temperature? AFAIK it's the only board on that price range (and lower) that has heatpipe connecting the chipset heatsink to the vrm heatsink, wanna know if it does decrease the temperature.

[Nagorak]

Originally Posted by Nunz

Why is the ASUS bios a joke? Their UEFI BIOS has been by far the best out of any other board manufacturer

If you go around you'll see people with Asus saying their bios sucks. Gigabyte their bios sucks, MSI, etc. The reality is that people just think whatever they have is the anomaly, when the truth is they're all bad.

With that being said, the X370 boards from Gigabyte were flat out missing features for Ryzen 2000 series (PBO), so they are on my **** list. For Ryzen 3000 PBO is back.

[Nagorak]

In regards to the boosting voltages, maybe it's normal, but these chips run hot at idle because the cores keep boosting all the time. Like they're constantly boosting on and off, so your temps are always like 50+C.

I'm not sure if there's a bug or what (Ryzen 2000 also had similar issues although not as bad). The solution for me is to just run in Power Saver. The cores will still boost up, but Windows restricts it so it's less aggressive and doesn't happen constantly. Then they'll actually idle at 30-35C. When I need more performance, which pretty much is only when gaming, I just use Power Plan Switcher to quickly click over to Balanced.

The problem with the high idle temps is it's hard to set a fan curve because the cores are almost always hot, but it's not because your cooling is actually being stressed, it's just because they are running at high voltage/frequency and it doesn't transfer from the core to your heatsink/AIO fast enough. I guess you could set your curve based off of VRM temp or something but for me it's easier to just run in Power Saver. Performance for standard things like web browsing, word processing, Youtube etc, is overkill even at 2.2 GHz core clock, so it doesn't even matter.

[Nagorak]

Anyway, I just bit the bullet and did the 4 hour round trip to Micro Center. So I picked up my 3700X and I got an Asus X370 Prime Pro thrown in for a penny with my $50 discount! I'll probably resell the board and basically monetize the discount.

The CPU is running fine in my CH6 Hero. My TridentZ 4000 C17 memory is stable at 3733 C16-16-16-16-32-48 TRFC 320, and 3600 C14-15-15-15-30-45 TRFC 300.

Basically memory compatibility is not even an issue, so don't sweat board topology or anything like that. It simply makes little to no difference, at least with two sticks. Right now it looks like going beyond 1:1 IF is not worth it anyway, so unless you're going to be pushing mid 4000s memory, you're better off just sticking at 3733 or 3600.

[Nunz]

Originally Posted by Nagorak

If you go around you'll see people with Asus saying their bios sucks. Gigabyte their bios sucks, MSI, etc. The reality is that people just think whatever they have is the anomaly, when the truth is they're all bad.

With that being said, the X370 boards from Gigabyte were flat out missing features for Ryzen 2000 series (PBO), so they are on my **** list. For Ryzen 3000 PBO is back.

I've owned MSI, ASUS, and Gigabyte in the past 3 years.

Gigabyte has awful support and I'll never buy another mobo from them again. The MSI board came in a package deal and was a cheap low-end board so I don't blame them, but their UEFI setup was awful.

The ASUS Z270E STRIX I replaced the MSI board with was great, and the Maximus Hero I have the 9900K on now has been even better. I think ASUS makes overpriced crap GPUs (the STRIX series gets by off the name alone) but their motherboards are always top notch.

I dunno. I've had a lot of different flavors the past few years.

[Jay20016]

Originally Posted by Nagorak

Anyway, I just bit the bullet and did the 4 hour round trip to Micro Center. So I picked up my 3700X and I got an Asus X370 Prime Pro thrown in for a penny with my $50 discount! I'll probably resell the board and basically monetize the discount.

The CPU is running fine in my CH6 Hero. My TridentZ 4000 C17 memory is stable at 3733 C16-16-16-16-32-48 TRFC 320, and 3600 C14-15-15-15-30-45 TRFC 300.

Basically memory compatibility is not even an issue, so don't sweat board topology or anything like that. It simply makes little to no difference, at least with two sticks. Right now it looks like going beyond 1:1 IF is not worth it anyway, so unless you're going to be pushing mid 4000s memory, you're better off just sticking at 3733 or 3600.

What steps did you do to get the crosshair ready for the new CPU? What order did you install chipset drivers, bios updates, etc.?

Planning on keeping my board but seeing issues with a c5 and c7 error that causes the system to not boot after the install, trying to avoid it at all costs.

[Nagorak]

Originally Posted by Jay20016

What steps did you do to get the crosshair ready for the new CPU? What order did you install chipset drivers, bios updates, etc.?

Planning on keeping my board but seeing issues with a c5 and c7 error that causes the system to not boot after the install, trying to avoid it at all costs.

Actually, my computer was down for a couple of weeks because I sold my 2700X to my brother when he came to visit. So, all I really did was update to the previous bios that was out about two weeks ago. That was enough to boot up fine, but my NVME drive wasn't detected. Fortunately, I just flashed to the newest bios and that problem was solved.

I did get the memory C5 error a couple of times when pushing the memory settings, but personally I didn't have any problems booting at stock. After overclocking my memory I got a C5 error on a cold boot, but setting the DRAM Boot Voltage to 1.35v seems to have fixed that. I've read some other accounts by people having more problems, but I'm afraid it's just luck of the draw. Or maybe it comes down to your memory type. I'm running a pretty high bin of Samsung b-die myself.

Oh, be sure not to disable Gear Down Mode in your memory settings, as right now the board hangs on boot with GDM disabled, regardless of what other settings you use.

[Jay20016]

Originally Posted by Nagorak

Actually, my computer was down for a couple of weeks because I sold my 2700X to my brother when he came to visit. So, all I really did was update to the previous bios that was out about two weeks ago. That was enough to boot up fine, but my NVME drive wasn't detected. Fortunately, I just flashed to the newest bios and that problem was solved.

I did get the memory C5 error a couple of times when pushing the memory settings, but personally I didn't have any problems booting at stock. After overclocking my memory I got a C5 error on a cold boot, but setting the DRAM Boot Voltage to 1.35v seems to have fixed that. I've read some other accounts by people having more problems, but I'm afraid it's just luck of the draw. Or maybe it comes down to your memory type. I'm running a pretty high bin of Samsung b-die myself.

Oh, be sure not to disable Gear Down Mode in your memory settings, as right now the board hangs on boot with GDM disabled, regardless of what other settings you use.

Cool, running 3200 Flare X memory which hasn't had any problem since I got the board over 2 years ago, so here is to hoping for a smooth transition. Do you know if the GDM is on at default? You did the updates through bios flashback or through UEFI?

[Greasy]

I think I'm going to go with this combo.

Aoras Master + 3900X

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Combo...=Combo.3920326

Now I just need it to come back in stock.

[Nagorak]

Originally Posted by Jay20016

Cool, running 3200 Flare X memory which hasn't had any problem since I got the board over 2 years ago, so here is to hoping for a smooth transition. Do you know if the GDM is on at default? You did the updates through bios flashback or through UEFI?

Auto should default to GDM on.

I just did normal bios update through the UEFI. If you update to latest bios before swapping the processor I don't think you'll have serious problems.

[Evileh]

Originally Posted by Greasy

I think I'm going to go with this combo.

Aoras Master + 3900X

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Combo...=Combo.3920326

Now I just need it to come back in stock.

Perfect!!! That's what gibro just did.


My dad did a 3700x Aorus ultra combo