SSD nvme questions

Leprechaun · Dec 11, 2020, 12:35 PM

When it rains it pours. When my case was heating up it most likely killed a 1TB adata drive. The drive will write fine but can't read! It reads at a few kB every few seconds at best. Even a test revealed 480mb write, zero read speed. Not coincidentally 2 Samsung SSD drives are fine and 3 nvme drives are fine.

My question is how can I get more nvme drives into my system since I have yet another spare lying around. I have 2 via the motherboard m.2 connections and 1 in the other pciex16 slot.
Any way of stuffing another one in there? The gen3 nvme is basically same price as and SSD.

KAC · Dec 11, 2020, 12:58 PM

I had to throw in an SSD since most boards only support 2. Only ways I can think about are a USB C enclosure or another PCIe card. Alternatively you can buy fancy PCIe card that supports 2-3 NVMe drives. Just make sure you know that it won’t set your graphics card back to 8X.

Nunz · Dec 11, 2020, 01:18 PM

I don't understand why you have so many drives?

Mangler · Dec 11, 2020, 01:21 PM

Uninstalling stuff is hard.

KAC · Dec 11, 2020, 01:26 PM

I also have 2 NVMe and 4 SSDs. I can add 1 more NVMe using an add in card and 1 more SSD but haven’t done it.

Mangler · Dec 11, 2020, 01:29 PM

I've got 6 ssd drives, waiting for direct storage support for windows 10 before buying a proper nvme drive.

Uninstalling stuff is hard.

Seyiji · Dec 11, 2020, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mangler

Uninstalling stuff is hard.

This

Leprechaun · Dec 11, 2020, 05:30 PM

I have 3 gen3 nvme and 1 gen4. 2 were given to me sooo I'd rather use them than mechanical crud or those pesky slow SSDs copying a mere 550mb/sec

KAC I already have one of those add in cards stealing video card bandwidth from the rtx 3080 and it doesn't affect performance.
I was always unsure about the cards that have 2+ nvme slots.do.they work? Will those affect the video card bandwidth differently? Will they reach their full speeds if say 3 drives are on one? Then some of those cards have m.2 form factor but are actually regular SSDs. Never knew which add in card to get.

All this because....

Uninstalling stuff is hard

Leprechaun · Dec 11, 2020, 05:48 PM

This thing:
https://www.amazon.ca/PCIe-NVMe-Adap...WBP37XMYF30E2Y

Will putting in two gen3 nvme work? Also what do they mean supports PCIe 4x,8x,16x? It doesn't need to take bandwidth away from the video card or.....???

QEFX · Dec 11, 2020, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KAC

I had to throw in an SSD since most boards only support 2. Only ways I can think about are a USB C enclosure or another PCIe card. Alternatively you can buy fancy PCIe card that supports 2-3 NVMe drives. Just make sure you know that it won’t set your graphics card back to 8X.

It would be slow but if you have the room you can also add in a SATA card and add a few that way. Mini-SAS is the way I'd go, but that kicks out the option for m.2 drives.

But yes, the 4 M.2 PCI cards are the best. Next up would be to add a USB 3.Mega ultra donkey d*ng version / USB 4 (when out) / Thunderbolt card. Ideally with an external enclosure that can handle 4+ drives.

Or .... dont flame me .... buy a 16TB HDD and move the extra stuff there and keep the good stuff on the fast drives.

Leprechaun · Dec 11, 2020, 11:38 PM

nm I would need something like this to have two full speed nvme drives.
https://www.amazon.ca/Supermicro-AOC...ustomerReviews

Would still take up the 2nd pcie slot. Just realized even though i'm taking up the 2nd slot it's running at 4x so probably not affecting gpu bandwidth.

They need to implement something for idiots like me who have too many nvme drives.

KAC · Dec 11, 2020, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leprechaun

nm I would need something like this to have two full speed nvme drives.
https://www.amazon.ca/Supermicro-AOC...ustomerReviews

Would still take up the 2nd pcie slot. Just realized even though i'm taking up the 2nd slot it's running at 4x so probably not affecting gpu bandwidth.

They need to implement something for idiots like me who have too many nvme drives.

There is something for idiots like you. It’s called a server.

0091/2 · Dec 12, 2020, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leprechaun

nm I would need something like this to have two full speed nvme drives.
https://www.amazon.ca/Supermicro-AOC...ustomerReviews

Would still take up the 2nd pcie slot. Just realized even though i'm taking up the 2nd slot it's running at 4x so probably not affecting gpu bandwidth.

They need to implement something for idiots like me who have too many nvme drives.

You could just get a larger Nvme so you don't have to use so many Nvme drives.

Leprechaun · Dec 12, 2020, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0091/2

You could just get a larger Nvme so you don't have to use so many Nvme drives.

Ya the 8tb sabrent gen4 is still a tad pricey

The drive works. Turns out the data cable just cooked.

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Leprechaun Radeon Arctic Islands Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hamilton Posts: 5,640	SSD nvme questions When it rains it pours. When my case was heating up it most likely killed a 1TB adata drive. The drive will write fine but can't read! It reads at a few kB every few seconds at best. Even a test revealed 480mb write, zero read speed. Not coincidentally 2 Samsung SSD drives are fine and 3 nvme drives are fine. My question is how can I get more nvme drives into my system since I have yet another spare lying around. I have 2 via the motherboard m.2 connections and 1 in the other pciex16 slot. Any way of stuffing another one in there? The gen3 nvme is basically same price as and SSD. __________________ CURRENT PC: Seasonic X760 Gold \| Corsair 600TM case \| 32GB RAM \| Some AM4 mobo \| AMD 3900X \|Lots of SSD and NVME \| EVGA RTX 3090 \| Some LG 4k monitor

KAC's System Specs
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Hard-Drives	Yes
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KAC's System Specs
Motherboard	MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 5900X @ 5.15 Gs
Graphics	EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra @ 2000 M
Memory	32 GB G Skill Trident Z NEO RGB @ 3733 C16
Cooling Solution	Corsair H150i Pro @ Quiet
Display	LG 55” CX OLED \| Samsung Odyssey G7 32”
Soundcard & Speakers	Logitech G332
Hard-Drives	660P 1TB, P1 1TB, MX500 1TB, 850 EVO 1TB, 840 EVO 512, 830 256 GB
Optical Drives	Dafuq dat optical drive?
Power Supply	EVGA G2 1300 W
Case	Phanteks P500A with extra gay RGB
Input Devices	Logitech G502 \| Corsair K70 MK 2 RGB
Operating System	Windows 10 Pro X64
Extra Info	Still pounding your mums

Mangler's System Specs
Motherboard	GB x570 Aorus Ultra
CPU	Ryzen 9 5900x
Graphics	A zotac 3090, the dumbest upgrade I've ever done.
Memory	32gb of blinged out RGB ram
Cooling Solution	Water
Display	LG 38'' UltraGear 38GN950
Soundcard & Speakers	Creative Sound Blaster OMNI
Hard-Drives	Yes
Optical Drives	No
Power Supply	Phanteks Revolt PRO 1000w
Case	Tempered Glass everywhere
Input Devices	Wireless logitech stuff
Operating System	Windows 10 64bit
Extra Info	No

Dec 11, 2020, 12:58 PM	#2
KAC RGB mofo, do you have it! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lahore Posts: 62,205	I had to throw in an SSD since most boards only support 2. Only ways I can think about are a USB C enclosure or another PCIe card. Alternatively you can buy fancy PCIe card that supports 2-3 NVMe drives. Just make sure you know that it won’t set your graphics card back to 8X.

Dec 11, 2020, 01:21 PM	#4
Mangler PC Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 20,499	Uninstalling stuff is hard.

Dec 11, 2020, 01:26 PM	#5
KAC RGB mofo, do you have it! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lahore Posts: 62,205	I also have 2 NVMe and 4 SSDs. I can add 1 more NVMe using an add in card and 1 more SSD but haven’t done it.

Dec 11, 2020, 01:29 PM	#6
Mangler PC Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 20,499	I've got 6 ssd drives, waiting for direct storage support for windows 10 before buying a proper nvme drive. Uninstalling stuff is hard.

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Dec 11, 2020, 05:30 PM	#8
Leprechaun Radeon Arctic Islands Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hamilton Posts: 5,640	I have 3 gen3 nvme and 1 gen4. 2 were given to me sooo I'd rather use them than mechanical crud or those pesky slow SSDs copying a mere 550mb/sec KAC I already have one of those add in cards stealing video card bandwidth from the rtx 3080 and it doesn't affect performance. I was always unsure about the cards that have 2+ nvme slots.do.they work? Will those affect the video card bandwidth differently? Will they reach their full speeds if say 3 drives are on one? Then some of those cards have m.2 form factor but are actually regular SSDs. Never knew which add in card to get. All this because.... Uninstalling stuff is hard __________________ CURRENT PC: Seasonic X760 Gold \| Corsair 600TM case \| 32GB RAM \| Some AM4 mobo \| AMD 3900X \|Lots of SSD and NVME \| EVGA RTX 3090 \| Some LG 4k monitor Last edited by Leprechaun : Dec 11, 2020 at 05:48 PM.

Dec 11, 2020, 05:48 PM	#9
Leprechaun Radeon Arctic Islands Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hamilton Posts: 5,640	This thing: https://www.amazon.ca/PCIe-NVMe-Adap...WBP37XMYF30E2Y Will putting in two gen3 nvme work? Also what do they mean supports PCIe 4x,8x,16x? It doesn't need to take bandwidth away from the video card or.....??? __________________ CURRENT PC: Seasonic X760 Gold \| Corsair 600TM case \| 32GB RAM \| Some AM4 mobo \| AMD 3900X \|Lots of SSD and NVME \| EVGA RTX 3090 \| Some LG 4k monitor

Dec 11, 2020, 11:38 PM	#11
Leprechaun Radeon Arctic Islands Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hamilton Posts: 5,640	nm I would need something like this to have two full speed nvme drives. https://www.amazon.ca/Supermicro-AOC...ustomerReviews Would still take up the 2nd pcie slot. Just realized even though i'm taking up the 2nd slot it's running at 4x so probably not affecting gpu bandwidth. They need to implement something for idiots like me who have too many nvme drives. __________________ CURRENT PC: Seasonic X760 Gold \| Corsair 600TM case \| 32GB RAM \| Some AM4 mobo \| AMD 3900X \|Lots of SSD and NVME \| EVGA RTX 3090 \| Some LG 4k monitor

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