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Yes and the current prices are totally valid 3 8.57%
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Old Jan 11, 2021, 11:54 AM   #31
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Oh yeah, didn't ASUS just announce they were raising their prices? I had forgot about that.
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Oh yeah, didn't ASUS just announce they were raising their prices? I had forgot about that.
Yeah, the Asus cards went up significantly. Not many of the others have followed them...yet. Sad day when they do. Most EVGA cards are still reasonably priced within original MSRP.
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EVGA is an American company and I really, really hope they don't pass the increase in costs over to us. EVGA is a nobody in Europe; they make the large majority of their sales in the US.
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EVGA is an American company and I really, really hope they don't pass the increase in costs over to us. EVGA is a nobody in Europe; they make the large majority of their sales in the US.
I think the issue is where the cards are manufactured (China vs Taiwan). Asus and others are manufactured in China so tariffs kicked in on Jan 1.
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I think the issue is where the cards are manufactured (China vs Taiwan). Asus and others are manufactured in China so tariffs kicked in on Jan 1.
I'm not gonna lie, I have no idea where EVGA manufactures their cards; I know they are an American company, but as many other American companies do, that doesn't necessarily mean they manufacture in the U.S.

I could probably google this, but I'd rather pull a KAC today and let someone else look it up for me
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Some quick Googling says EVGA parts country of origin is China.

But they may get assembled in the U.S.
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I'm not gonna lie, I have no idea where EVGA manufactures their cards; I know they are an American company, but as many other American companies do, that doesn't necessarily mean they manufacture in the U.S.

I could probably google this, but I'd rather pull a KAC today and let someone else look it up for me
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Some quick Googling says EVGA parts country of origin is China.

But they may get assembled in the U.S.
So far prices at EVGA's website have not gone up.

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Due to ongoing events, EVGA has made price adjustments on the GeForce RTX 30 Series products. This change was necessary due to several factors and will be effective January 11, 2021. EVGA has worked to reduce and minimize these costs as much as possible.

For those who are currently in the EVGA.com Notify Queue system or Step-Up Queue, EVGA will honor the original MSRP pricing through April 16th, 2021 if your purchase position is processed before this date.

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Less of a price jump than what ASUS did. Looks like EVGA really did minimize the price increases as much as possible.
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I really hope this is a temporary thing with just this generation of cards and things will improve for the next series.

Hate to think this is possibly going to be the norm going forward.
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Hate to think this is possibly going to be the norm going forward.
Yeah, hope not. But...no lack of games for people to play in the meantime. Hell, I have a backlog of PS4 games that I've been wanting to get to along with the PC. There's also the Switch... I can hold off until the 4080 comes out if needed.
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At least they will honor the price if you were in que thats more than most people can expect IMO.
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At least they will honor the price if you were in que thats more than most people can expect IMO.
Agreed, being very generous and that's another reason why the community loves them.
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im in no rush, i refuse to pay these inflated prices. A 3080 is around $1100 here now. Fortunately my card is still adequate
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this one isn't too bad

https://www.evga.com/products/produc...10G-P5-3889-KR

if they ever get it out

more so if it turns into a 3080 ti
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I would be willing to spend $850 on a 3080. Might be willing to spend a bit more than that.

That said, I already ordered a full new system that is now below MSRP for the selected parts, partially thanks to the recent bump.
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I really hope this is a temporary thing with just this generation of cards and things will improve for the next series.

Hate to think this is possibly going to be the norm going forward.
Considering this is a Trump tariff, I am hopeful that Biden will end the trade war BS and prices will go back to normal.
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TSMC is building a Fab in AZ so it is working


and a dem remove a tax
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If you think TSMC is building a fab in AZ due to the tariffs you're smoking crack
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3080s are between 1.200 € and 1.300 € (waterblock), so yeah, prices has gone through the roof, at least here. Needless to say that almost none of the cards are available. The cheapest card you can find is a Zotac for 955 €, of course it's also not available.
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TSMC's main fab is in Taiwan (TSMC stands for Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company), so they wouldn't be affected anyway.

That being said, as far as tariffs go, if we were going to use them to try to preserve our manufacturing sector, we really needed them thirty years ago. I am not sure arbitrarily slapping on a 10% tariff now actually accomplishes much. But if it was just the tariff it would be one thing, it's just after all of the existing shortages and price inflation that already took place, it feels like another insult added on.

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At least they will honor the price if you were in que thats more than most people can expect IMO.
I don't know, with how fast the queue is moving, a lot of people may not end up having the price honored. They still haven't gotten done with day one step-ups. Frankly it seems like the speed of step-ups is actually slowing down. Hopefully it was just the holidays.

I guess my 2080 Super is still going strong, at least. Glad I opted for a 2080 Super instead of a 2070 Super!
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TSMC's main fab is in Taiwan (TSMC stands for Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company), so they wouldn't be affected anyway.

That being said, as far as tariffs go, if we were going to use them to try to preserve our manufacturing sector, we really needed them thirty years ago. I am not sure arbitrarily slapping on a 10% tariff now actually accomplishes much. But if it was just the tariff it would be one thing, it's just after all of the existing shortages and price inflation that already took place, it feels like another insult added on.
they have fabs in China also
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I don't know, with how fast the queue is moving, a lot of people may not end up having the price honored. They still haven't gotten done with day one step-ups. Frankly it seems like the speed of step-ups is actually slowing down. Hopefully it was just the holidays.

I guess my 2080 Super is still going strong, at least. Glad I opted for a 2080 Super instead of a 2070 Super!

I would assume(hope) that they would have looked at their que and said at this point we can give most people an opportunity to buy before april and set that as a date to cut off lower prices.
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TSMC's main fab is in Taiwan (TSMC stands for Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company), so they wouldn't be affected anyway.

That being said, as far as tariffs go, if we were going to use them to try to preserve our manufacturing sector, we really needed them thirty years ago. I am not sure arbitrarily slapping on a 10% tariff now actually accomplishes much. But if it was just the tariff it would be one thing, it's just after all of the existing shortages and price inflation that already took place, it feels like another insult added on.
TSMC don't make graphics cards. The chips they make are shipped to wherever to be assembled by the AIB's. Where they are assembled and shipped from is their country of origin and therefore will determine the tariffs. Basically most are made in China these days so tariffs will apply.

Regarding TSMC building a fab in AZ it makes sense because they will be getting huge subsidies, Taiwan is not best place geographically for weather purposes and China are becoming more threatening by the day and Pompeo's announcement last week hasn't helped
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I'd be all over 3060 / 3070 cards at near MSRP pricing.
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I'd be all over 3060 / 3070 cards at near MSRP pricing.
If you want an FE (nvidia made ) card only Best Buy sells them now. Possibly only way to get a cheaper card at the moment.
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