MicroLED TVs

metroidfox · Sep 19, 2020, 11:49 PM

Yeah, saw this. Honestly, I've also become a little sceptical of the perks of "perfect" blacks anyway. Calibration counts for far, far more from what I have experienced. i.e. for film, very few things require perfect darkness. Most good TVs can reproduce everything else.

There are obvious weak scenarios like displaying distant stars in space, but that is the exception rather than the rule to me.

Lazy8s · Sep 20, 2020, 01:25 PM

I'm watching the TCL 6 series. I don't need "perfect" blacks, but I do need better than what I have, and at an affordable price. The only thing lacking (thanks Riptide for pointing it out) is HDMI 2.1. Other than that it looks to be a solid buy in the MicroLED field.

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/tc...ries-r635-2020

12Bass · Sep 24, 2020, 02:49 AM

Contrast ratio is arguably the fundamental basis for good picture quality. OLED is currently the best due to the ability to produce absolute black; this is best appreciated in a dark-ish room. People who watch in rooms with lots of window may be better served by bright LED/LCDs. However, OLEDs also have wide viewing angles, which means there's less need to sit in the "sweet spot" to get a decent picture. I've been waiting for OLED (or its replacement technology) to come down a bit more before I upgrade from my 1080p Panasonic plasma. Those perfect blacks are truly breathtaking when watching dark content like outer space scenes...

Lazy8s · Sep 30, 2020, 07:56 PM

Baby steps for me, hence the miniLED TCL I linked. It's affordable and is being compared to much pricier OLEDs as far as IQ/true blacks etc are concerned.

It lacks 2.1, but I don't need it yet anyway.

IF I buy it I'll post impressions. The only thing I'm concerned about is TCL's panel lottery. From what I've read, odds for the consumer aren't quite as high as pricier sets, but that when you do score a good panel, it's pretty amazing.

The Luggage · Sep 30, 2020, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12Bass

Contrast ratio is arguably the fundamental basis for good picture quality. OLED is currently the best due to the ability to produce absolute black; this is best appreciated in a dark-ish room. People who watch in rooms with lots of window may be better served by bright LED/LCDs. However, OLEDs also have wide viewing angles, which means there's less need to sit in the "sweet spot" to get a decent picture. I've been waiting for OLED (or its replacement technology) to come down a bit more before I upgrade from my 1080p Panasonic plasma. Those perfect blacks are truly breathtaking when watching dark content like outer space scenes...

I was in the same position. Had my 55" Panasonic Plasma for years. Then about a month ago my son threw the remote and destroyed the screen

Picked up an LG 55CX from Costco. All I can say is wow

mizzer · Sep 30, 2020, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazy8s

Baby steps for me, hence the miniLED TCL I linked. It's affordable and is being compared to much pricier OLEDs as far as IQ/true blacks etc are concerned.

It lacks 2.1, but I don't need it yet anyway.

IF I buy it I'll post impressions. The only thing I'm concerned about is TCL's panel lottery. From what I've read, odds for the consumer aren't quite as high as pricier sets, but that when you do score a good panel, it's pretty amazing.

I got an amazing TCL tv before they were a serious contender. It’s still running solid as our bedroom screen.

Lazy8s · Sep 30, 2020, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mizzer

I got an amazing TCL tv before they were a serious contender. It’s still running solid as our bedroom screen.

I'm hoping for the same satisfaction

A2597 · Nov 13, 2020, 09:06 AM

we got the Samsung QLED last year or so.
Really like it. No burn in issues like OLED, almost as good of a picture IMHO.

12Bass · Nov 14, 2020, 01:22 AM

IMO, nothing else affordable and currently available touches OLED. LCD may be better for people who have bright rooms, but for dark/low-light viewing OLED's perfect blacks just make everything pop, and the viewing angles are much wider. Burn-in is a risk, but mostly for people who continuously watch the same channel with a logo, or play a single game with static elements. Vary the content and it becomes a non-issue.

metroidfox · Dec 10, 2020, 05:27 PM

I want my dual layer LCDs

Lazy8s · Dec 11, 2020, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metroidfox

I want my dual layer LCDs

Looks like Hisense launched one in China, but it's probably going to cost quite a bit if it makes it to NA.

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1562668129

Riptide · Dec 29, 2020, 09:01 AM

I'm still waiting for the vidrian 8K tcl mini-led set that hasn't been released yet. If it is good, then the OLED goes back to the bedroom and I'll be using the TCL for living room HTPC and gaming duty.

It's been a while and TCL has been pretty much quiet about it. No release date, no news, no nothing for months. Not sure what/when to expect anything now.

Lazy8s · Dec 29, 2020, 10:42 AM

LG has a new "QNED" set in the works...a mini-LED..

https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/28/...unced-ces-2021

pax · Jan 2, 2021, 01:34 AM

Mini is happening and will be needed to get that 1000 nits of hdr. But micro nah... just wont be mass produced. Itll be pricey uber high end for a short while at best.

Chuck · Feb 10, 2021, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazy8s

LG has a new "QNED" set in the works...a mini-LED..

https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/28/...unced-ces-2021

Don't see this being entirely flagship quality? Otherwise wouldn't it conflict with their OLED lineup?

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Sep 24, 2020, 02:49 AM	#4
12Bass Quantum Bleep Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 15,495	Contrast ratio is arguably the fundamental basis for good picture quality. OLED is currently the best due to the ability to produce absolute black; this is best appreciated in a dark-ish room. People who watch in rooms with lots of window may be better served by bright LED/LCDs. However, OLEDs also have wide viewing angles, which means there's less need to sit in the "sweet spot" to get a decent picture. I've been waiting for OLED (or its replacement technology) to come down a bit more before I upgrade from my 1080p Panasonic plasma. Those perfect blacks are truly breathtaking when watching dark content like outer space scenes... __________________ My world is a world of concepts and principles, not a battlefield - "war" is simply the wrong metaphor for where I'm coming from.

Sep 20, 2020, 01:25 PM	#3
Lazy8s One day at a time Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 32,597	I'm watching the TCL 6 series. I don't need "perfect" blacks, but I do need better than what I have, and at an affordable price. The only thing lacking (thanks Riptide for pointing it out) is HDMI 2.1. Other than that it looks to be a solid buy in the MicroLED field. https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/tc...ries-r635-2020

Sep 30, 2020, 07:56 PM	#5
Lazy8s One day at a time Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 32,597	Baby steps for me, hence the miniLED TCL I linked. It's affordable and is being compared to much pricier OLEDs as far as IQ/true blacks etc are concerned. It lacks 2.1, but I don't need it yet anyway. IF I buy it I'll post impressions. The only thing I'm concerned about is TCL's panel lottery. From what I've read, odds for the consumer aren't quite as high as pricier sets, but that when you do score a good panel, it's pretty amazing.

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Nov 14, 2020, 01:22 AM	#10
12Bass Quantum Bleep Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 15,495	IMO, nothing else affordable and currently available touches OLED. LCD may be better for people who have bright rooms, but for dark/low-light viewing OLED's perfect blacks just make everything pop, and the viewing angles are much wider. Burn-in is a risk, but mostly for people who continuously watch the same channel with a logo, or play a single game with static elements. Vary the content and it becomes a non-issue. __________________ My world is a world of concepts and principles, not a battlefield - "war" is simply the wrong metaphor for where I'm coming from.

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Riptide Avtomat Kalashnikova 1947 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sparks, NV Posts: 2,402	I'm still waiting for the vidrian 8K tcl mini-led set that hasn't been released yet. If it is good, then the OLED goes back to the bedroom and I'll be using the TCL for living room HTPC and gaming duty. It's been a while and TCL has been pretty much quiet about it. No release date, no news, no nothing for months. Not sure what/when to expect anything now. __________________ Ryzen 5950X 32GB GSkill PC 3600 ASUS TUF X570 ASRock Phantom 6900 XT

Dec 29, 2020, 10:42 AM	#14
Lazy8s One day at a time Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 32,597	LG has a new "QNED" set in the works...a mini-LED.. https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/28/...unced-ces-2021

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