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Old Aug 5, 2019, 01:00 PM   #601
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People sending threats are a bunch of fat ****ing pussies. Developers are free to do what you want, same as the consumer is free to be pissed and not buy it, but sending threats? Billy the 350lb ****ing sloth telling you to kill yourself shouldn’t matter much.

I do understand how it must feel to be close to your consumer audience and have a good rapport, and then have that ruined by a decision that doesn’t technically have an affect on the development or design of the game. That has to be frustrating.

Human beings are just garbage..
I don't agree at all with EPIC exclusives, but I would never threaten or rage against a company for doing it. I'm a little irritated sure (for a couple of games), but that's no reason to hate somebody who hasn't screwed up their game.

Now when they charge me full price for a game and it's a buggy mess with game breaking bugs, yeah that will piss me off a little more (still I wouldn't threaten anything short of never buying their products again).
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Old Aug 5, 2019, 04:08 PM   #602
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wouldn't be as bad if EPIC did look and run like crap

I regret buying the only game I have on it metro exodus
it (the store) was freezing and crashing

have not looked at it since hope it is better now
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Old Aug 5, 2019, 05:23 PM   #603
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While i agree about all the hate and threats dont be blinded by it. That duo making ooblets are actually dicks. They just told all their patreons to go **** themselves because they dont neeed their money any more.
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Thousands of "threatening" messages. I'm skeptical. I see lots of articles claiming so, but no real examples.
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Old Aug 5, 2019, 08:48 PM   #606
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While i agree about all the hate and threats dont be blinded by it. That duo making ooblets are actually dicks. They just told all their patreons to go **** themselves because they dont neeed their money any more.
They are pulling out all the stops to make sure people know that they don't give a **** about them buying their game anymore. They are guaranteed money from Epic now so any illusion of customer relations is gone.

If Epic wants to reap some positive PR, they should pull the contract on those knobs and make it clear getting a contract with them doesn't mean the customer gets put on the back burner.
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I don't think Epic is particularly worried about making potential customers happy either. Their method of winning customers is to not give them any other choice.
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Old Aug 16, 2019, 12:08 AM   #608
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Mutant Year Zero now free. Man this epic thing is not bad at all.
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Old Aug 16, 2019, 12:18 AM   #609
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Yup. That's what I thought about Amazon's Android Store; Free stuff every day? Eventually they just ran out of stuff to give away.

I have been waiting for Mutant Year Zero since I let its Humble Bundle pass.
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Epic really wants to piss off the most people it can it seems.

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Where’s all the dumbasses that were saying Epic store is “great for competition” and good for developers? All they’re doing is pigeonholing people into their store with money guarantees with no regard whatsoever for the consumer.

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They did it the wrong way. They should have passed on some of the savings the devs got early on to the consumers. Then they would have thrived even with less features. Instead they said, "hold my beer while I throw $$$"

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They did it the wrong way. They should have passed on some of the savings the devs got early on to the consumers. Then they would have thrived even with less features. Instead they said, "hold my beer while I throw $$$"

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I don't think not passing through savings onto consumers was a mistake. The messaging at the start was very clear: they're passing savings onto developers. Gamers aren't the ones having trouble making ends meet from game to game because of profitability of games, that issue is an issue for developers. It's pretty standard in the industry that if your last game was a hit, that'll pay for the next one, and if it wasn't a hit, you're in trouble.

Passing savings onto developers so that they've got an easier time of it, especially in the AA and indie tiers, would've been a great message to keep spreading around.

The trouble was of course buying up exclusives, just before launch, against an avid Steam fan base. I don't think anything else has played such a big part in the negative attitude towards the Epic Store as that.
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They should have used the passing savings onto the developers and then left it at that, or maybe used the money to FUND gaming development of their own games, or paying for exclusive sequels or stuff that maybe wouldn't get funded today without kickstarter.

However they basically just say here's loads of money, don't release on steam kthxbai. Which is just a dick move.

HOWEVER, it doesn't seem like that it's having much of a issue as I still see many people buying games on Epic store, so in the end they'll probably win.

However one silver lining is that I really hope they kicks gabe in the balls so that he starts making games again, Steam is going to need 1.the client overhaul which has been in development forever, and only the friends and chat list is the only thing released so far. 2. and more big name games besides Halo, i.e. Portal 3 or Left 4 Dead 3 etc (no point saying hl3 )
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Buying up exclusives (let's be honest, store front exclusives, not platform exclusives) isn't such a big issue I think, so long as it's done ahead of time. The later in the development process you leave it, the bigger the backlash it seems, especially as developers have by then already promised Steam releases.
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The trouble was of course buying up exclusives, just before launch, against an avid Steam fan base. I don't think anything else has played such a big part in the negative attitude towards the Epic Store as that.
Have they done anything directly for the paying customers in developed countries (besides letting you disable updates for games?) If not, then I think that's also part of the trouble...
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Old Aug 19, 2019, 10:18 AM   #619
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Have they done anything directly for the paying customers in developed countries
Yes, as noted a couple pages back,
"EGS has regional scaling that works a lot better in many parts of the world. I have quite a few friends in developing countries that purchased Metro instead of pirating it because instead of the hundreds of their dollars they have to pay for one game on Steam, it was about the equivalent of 20 bucks or so for them, which put it in their affordable range. I'm sure most of them will be returning customers on Epic's platform.

I'm glad someone is trying to shake up the 'effective monopoly' that Steam has had for a while now."
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I'm not since their way of doing it means more expensive games for me.

Call me back when they actually do something beneficial for my market, right now EGS is simply an inferior launcher with zero benefits for me.
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That's why I mentioned developed countries. I was acknowledging the regional thing.

EDIT: Mangler, how are games more expensive for you?
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Because I bought my steam titles from authorized third party stores, and you don't have as many of those to choose from when it comes to the EGS exclusive titles since epic behaves more like a company trying to have a monopoly than valve does.

Honestly, all launchers/stores kind of sucks for Swedes, since we fall under the 59.9€ umbrella when our local/retail stores prices for AAA pc games are ~49€.

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Ugh, that makes a lot of sense, Mangler (buying Epic games from other stores). It appears as though I'm in the same boat, with new gmaes at least....

Still, Far Cry Primal complete for $5.50 seems VERY good! (It's on the actual Epic store)
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Ugh, that makes a lot of sense, Mangler (buying Epic games from other stores). It appears as though I'm in the same boat, with new gmaes at least....

Still, Far Cry Primal complete for $5.50 seems VERY good! (It's on the actual Epic store)
Ubisoft's own store has a big sale including that game.
Check it out there and maybe you could just add the game to steam.
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Damn I actually thought Epic was giving me a deal. How foolish of me...
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Once installed you don’t need Epic store.
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