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Old Oct 23, 2019, 12:16 AM   #31
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Cant understand that scene where they both saber what looks like a scarecrow Darth Vader seen crumbling.

Apparently they filmed up to 6 different endings... what you guys are spoilerizing on here might not be the actual film.
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The new trilogy does occasionally give us whiffs of nostalgia...kinda like the phantom pain you have after a limb is removed. Hey, maybe that should've been the title of Ep 7: The Phantom Pain, followed by Ep8: The Lost Limb. That's the extent of the emotional connection most SW fans have with these new movies and characters.
I suddenly get this insane idea for letting Hideo Kojima making star wars movies/games
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Apparently they filmed up to 6 different endings... what you guys are spoilerizing on here might not be the actual film.
Disney should make Star Wars: Bandersnatch... where one of the options is making the whole new trilogy disappear entirely from existence.
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Old Oct 23, 2019, 10:20 AM   #34
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Disney should make Star Wars: Bandersnatch... where one of the options is making the whole new trilogy disappear entirely from existence.
I had hoped that Ep9 would start off with Luke waking from a nightmare (called The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi). Realizing it was all a dream, and none of that crap actually happened, Disney could reboot the series with better actors, writers, and director.

Hey, it worked on Dallas.
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I had hoped that Ep9 would start off with Luke waking from a nightmare (called The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi). Realizing it was all a dream, and none of that crap actually happened, Disney could reboot the series with better actors, writers, and director.

Hey, it worked on Dallas.
I think this is the most hoped for solution out there.
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Old Oct 23, 2019, 02:40 PM   #36
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I wonder how Yoda would phrase this?
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I wonder how Yoda would phrase this?
Probably better than George W Bush did.
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To be honest I prefer the side films of Star Wars more, Rouge One was great. Solo... wasn't too bad but better than 7 and especially 8 anyway.
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It's hard to say what's more entertaining-- the movies themselves or the fans' love-hate opinions.
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It's hard to say what's more entertaining-- the movies themselves or the fans' love-hate opinions.
Sitting and staring at a wall is far more entertaining than these movies.
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Don't recall seeing a single porg in the ROS trailers... which leaves out the absolute best part of the new trilogy.
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There is fair amount of dislikes in that video, but nothing compares to the amount of likes. But from the comments I believe there are bots involved

I won't be paying to watch this. TLJ was a visual masterpiece but the story is very See all that spaceship in the trailer? They all can be wiped out by a single ship going lightspeed.

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People take this stuff too seriously....
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People take this stuff too seriously....
I know right?

I few people here actually wake up in the middle of the night sweating bullets
in hate of "movies"...

Even scared of "corrupting" their kids.

This is 2019 for ya.
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I dunno... I loved Star Wars as a kid. The movie had an almost magical effect on me. And, no, it wasn't called Episode IV... and it didn't have any CGI... it was just Star Wars. The Abrams/Johnson films are a poor facsimile at best, without the character development and compelling story lines of the original films; essentially, they proudly crap all over any good memories I ever had....
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People take this stuff too seriously....
Different things matter more to some than to others. I don't mock your fascination with cars, so don't belittle people who are really into Star Wars and get personally upset when Disney is shitting all over the characters and stories that they know and love.

So tired of people and they're judgmental bullshit these days.
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That was The Who, Dubya, and it's "won't get fooled again." And yes we do get fooled again and again. Even people from Texas or Tennessee.

Just notice how many fans hated Farce Awakens and Least Jedi but will still go see this newest one.
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I dunno... I loved Star Wars as a kid. The movie had an almost magical effect on me. And, no, it wasn't called Episode IV... and it didn't have any CGI... it was just Star Wars. The Abrams/Johnson films are a poor facsimile at best, without the character development and compelling story lines of the original films; essentially, they proudly crap all over any good memories I ever had....
Even things that appeared to be awesome as kids, were likely just awesome because there wasn't anything else around to compare it to... There wasn't much competition for "space movies" when the originals came out, where as today there is a lot more competition in this space. There are a lot of movies that I enjoyed as a youngster that now as an adult, don't have the same appear. I'm not say that's "Star Wars" per say, but I do think trying to compare what is seen as a child verses an adult is not going to equal the same result.
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Even things that appeared to be awesome as kids, were likely just awesome because there wasn't anything else around to compare it to... There wasn't much competition for "space movies" when the originals came out, where as today there is a lot more competition in this space. There are a lot of movies that I enjoyed as a youngster that now as an adult, don't have the same appear. I'm not say that's "Star Wars" per say, but I do think trying to compare what is seen as a child verses an adult is not going to equal the same result.
What is your point is a Star Wars thread with this?

It is OK that Johnson's movie had a crap script with crap story cause this is now that that was then?
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Star Wars (and the whole OT) was magical as a kid. Then again, many things were magical at that age. However, unlike many movies from the 70s and 80s, the OT has held up very well. I'm talking the original theatrical versions, but I also happen to be one of the few people who liked the Special Editions for the most part (minus the "Greedo shot first", the Darth Vader "NOoOOOoOo!" and Hayden Christiansen as a Force ghost crap). I didn't care much for the prequel trilogy, but they run circles around Eps 7-9 in terms of storytelling. Oddly enough, a good story can make people forgive bad acting, writing, and directing. JJ Abrams and Ryan Johnson are more interested in CGI SFX than storytelling.
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Even things that appeared to be awesome as kids, were likely just awesome because there wasn't anything else around to compare it to... There wasn't much competition for "space movies" when the originals came out, where as today there is a lot more competition in this space. There are a lot of movies that I enjoyed as a youngster that now as an adult, don't have the same appear. I'm not say that's "Star Wars" per say, but I do think trying to compare what is seen as a child verses an adult is not going to equal the same result.
It can be difficult to look at music and movies from one's childhood with any sort of objectivity, as that stuff gets sort of burned right into the sentimental part of your brain. Star Wars a revolutionary film and set the standard for special effects for years to come. But the epic story, galaxy, and characters carried the film. Watching it now, I can see some weakness in the acting that I didn't notice as a child. The CGI versions totally take me out of the experience and I wish, like many fans, that they would release the untouched theatrical versions.

FWIW, I don't feel the same about Blade Runner 2049 or a variety of other more modern sequels to old films. 2049 wasn't totally satisfying for me, but it did tell a decent story, with the benefit of all of the modern effects. So, it isn't just something about not messing with nostalgia... there's more at play.
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... JJ Abrams and Ryan Johnson are more interested in CGI SFX than storytelling.
Totally true in JJ's Star Trek... which turned ST a shiny CGI-action-fest (LENS FLARE!!!), and lost any sort of philosophical grounding. What made the original ST was the mix of action and good story telling, often providing a fictional setting to address issues like racism or sexism or other social issues of the day.

What Lucas had, at least with the OT, was a good story to tell... and the best special effects of the day. All the shiny effects in the world can't fix a recycled (Abrams) or subverted (Johnson) crap story.

But at least we got PORGS!!!
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Cant understand that scene where they both saber what looks like a scarecrow Darth Vader seen crumbling.

Apparently they filmed up to 6 different endings... what you guys are spoilerizing on here might not be the actual film.
I hope they go with whichever ending is the most woke!

Seriously though, I hope they include all of the alternate endings on the bluray release.
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I won't be paying to watch this. TLJ was a visual masterpiece but the story is very See all that spaceship in the trailer? They all can be wiped out by a single ship going lightspeed.

Honestly I think it's time for the rebellion to build their own deathstar. This one will be even bigger, and be able to destroy 100 planets from any distance. Sometimes you have to play dirty. maybe they can recruit some dark jedi too.
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What is your point is a Star Wars thread with this?

It is OK that Johnson's movie had a crap script with crap story cause this is now that that was then?
People began to crap on SW movies starting with Return of the Jedi, 36 years ago...

It has nothing to do with a script since the prequels were 100% Lucas's creation
and his script, be that also was shitting on the script.

These are movies. I loved the original trilogy as much as anyone else.
But having worked for the industry a while back, I have no expectations that movies
will be made because of what I specifically like. Seems the SW and ST crowd
somehow believe they are owed specific movies.

There are simply too many people involved into making movies for them to follow
a rectilinear script.

This is also with because of that understanding that Jackson filmed all the LOTR movies at once... Though CGI was done in sequence to benefit the best available technology.
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