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Old Dec 17, 2017, 07:34 PM   #181
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Old Dec 17, 2017, 08:48 PM   #182
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So does anyone know what was up with the evil water spout thing?

Sorry, but narratively speaking, this movie was horseshit.
Its similar to the dark trees where Luke is training in Dagobah. Some areas are strong with dark side of the Force. Yeah the movie dont explain stuff like that
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Old Dec 17, 2017, 10:11 PM   #183
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Old Dec 17, 2017, 11:14 PM   #184
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Nothing makes sense in the movie. Trying to explain it is futile.
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Old Dec 18, 2017, 01:02 AM   #185
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Directing isn't Lucas' major forte. I get that.

To me it's sticking to a central theme, making a believable/virtually palpable world + coherent plot + thoroughly understanding the concepts of the force that makes Lucas all that special.

To me it's as though Disney is content in making Star Wars a shallow cash grab like Marvel movies of late.

If they are to throw the Skywalker legacy (which have been the central focus of the series for a while now) under the bus they should have at least given the audience a good reason for this. Thus why I am praying they'd somehow make Rey a Skywalker. Otherwise, if they just threw her out there as the main protagonist and expect Star Wars fans to like her... that's just bad planning. You need to convince the viewer to like her character. From what I've read so far they're failing miserably at that.

And no, if you guys are wondering I don't give a darn if Rey is female. Mara Jade was and forever will be one of the my favorite Jedis of all time. For Christ's sakes at least give in the effort to make her character more 3-dimensional.

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Old Dec 18, 2017, 01:22 AM   #186
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I thought it was a decent movie. 7-8/10.. I liked it more than the force awakens or whatever it was called.

I am not the biggest Star Wars fan but I like good quality sci fi / fantasy movies. And those are far and few between.
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Old Dec 18, 2017, 01:29 AM   #187
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Better than Force Awakens, and the newer trilogy.
Better than original? In some ways here and there, and worse in others.

On a whole, I enjoyed it. I say that as a fan of the original trilogy and even the expanded universe.

Probably 7-8/10

also, I love that the grey jedi....
Wound up being Yoda, rocking the force lightning!
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Movie tried to hard to not take itself to seriously then take itself serious. tried to hard to be a kids movie then be hard core with gore. Basically director had no idea what to so he tried to do it all and hoped for the best. He took both Empire Strikes back and Return of the Jedi and rammed it into one sub par movie which is what Abrams seems to do best these days. Do what others did better, again only worse.
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Movie wasn't made by Abrams. It was by Johnson.
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Movie tried to hard to not take itself to seriously then take itself serious. tried to hard to be a kids movie then be hard core with gore. Basically director had no idea what to so he tried to do it all and hoped for the best. He took both Empire Strikes back and Return of the Jedi and rammed it into one sub par movie which is what Abrams seems to do best these days. Do what others did better, again only worse.
They could have easily made this two movies, instead they tried to cram 10lbs of **** into a 5lb bag. The movie was densely packed full of subpar crap.
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Its similar to the dark trees where Luke is training in Dagobah. Some areas are strong with dark side of the Force. Yeah the movie dont explain stuff like that
So, why did Luke set it up to make it sound like the dark hole water spout portal thing was just darkness and get upset when Rey went right towards it? He went through something similar, where he was tested by a vision of who he could become. Rey senses the same test and he freaks out? I don't recall Yoda being upset when he went through that trial.
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Sorry if this is kinda off topic but I kinda resent how long running franchises we grew up with are handled as a whole. You do not make new stars likeable by making legends look weak. When are they gonna get that through their thick skulls? That’s just lazy writing.
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If detractors agree with the rant posted higher up, it explains a lot...

Only taking the bombing run, when I saw the ships "lobbing" projectiles to the
resistance ship, I assumed, correctly, that a planet was nearby, which made scene
for the gravity based bombing ships, because they were close enough.
However, you cant point this out yet because escaping to the planet is a plot device...

I could dissect all the points one by one but it does not matter because reasons...
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You are trying too hard to explain this movie. This was fast and furious Star Wars. Nothing makes sense. Saying things are a plot device does not mean that you use them for stupidity.
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SW TLJ 7-10.

Not as bad or as good as I thought it would be if that makes any sense. Pacing was off but I honestly didnt think anything was illogical or outside the lore of the SW universe.

I would have handled one aspect better with the whole tracking the rebel fleet issue... Id have them jump until the gas tank was empty with some firefights at every jump... not this slow pursuit but other than that I thought it was ok.

Do need to see it a second time as buddy who was with me on his second viewing and it went a lot better for him this time around.
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Movie sucked. It's as simple as that. If you liked it, yay for you, but still sucked. Even Leia turned Mary Poppins in space
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So, why did Luke set it up to make it sound like the dark hole water spout portal thing was just darkness and get upset when Rey went right towards it? He went through something similar, where he was tested by a vision of who he could become. Rey senses the same test and he freaks out? I don't recall Yoda being upset when he went through that trial.
Yoda ghost still calls Luke 'Young Skywalker' I think that somehow reflect to him as still learning thus leading him to get upset during the scene. Being solitary and delusional from what he done to Ben Solo could also be another factor.

I still dont like how he as an iconic Jedi Master being potrayed with such ridiculous dialogue and act, even Mark himself tell so
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(a) Mmmm donuts
(b) 70c
(c) Hey there muscly arms, why the long face?
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So you are saying Young Skywalker dies young?
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https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood...tomatoes-score

Those saying the movie was a 0 or. 5 are being ridiculous.
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Trying too hard to explain nonsense.
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Old Dec 19, 2017, 03:55 AM   #209
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The more I think about it, the more I am convinced they should've started the new trilogy in an era where ALL characters in the known Star Wars universe are dead from the beginning. Gives it plenty of more room for character development and expanding the universe without gaping plot-holes and potential moments where your childhood heroes die on-screen for no particularly good reason (yes, it's indeed heartbreaking).

Regardless, I'd stop bitching now.

..until I watch the movie this Friday. Still convinced I'd not be in love with it like I was with Force Awakens but we'd see.
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Trying too hard to explain nonsense.
And you gave it 8/10 right?

Weren't you a hater of TFA because it was ANH clone? TLJ takes a different path and pushes characters out of what people think they are or should be.

Was it all good? Nope. But if you put your thinking cap on and attempt to think of what and why, you might start to understand what Johnson was aiming to do.

I'm not sure why I posted anything in here. Not wanting to get into and endless battle over this.

That article was pretty spot on.

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