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Old Aug 15, 2003, 09:08 AM   #1
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Default ATi Gaining Market Share in every Area. Nvidia losing in every area.

Yes I know this is the Inquirer. But it will be interesting when more information comes out on this.

Remember i said just becuase Nvidia *shipped* 60% of the DX9 hardware does not directly equate to market share. No more than it did wen ATi shipped 100% of DX9 pats in the previous Quarters.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11054

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A REPORT from Mercury Research on the third quarter 2003 graphics market, indicates that ATI has gained market share at the expense of its fierce enemy, Nvidia.
· The report forecasts that 48.9 million graphics chips were shipped in Q2, a figure that's down five per cent from the previous quarter but 16% up year on year.

Intel as well as ATI were winners. ATI gained 1.6% to hold 21 per cent of the total graphics chip market, Intel gained five per cent and held 32%, while Nvidia lost market share by 4.5% to 27%.

The market share gap between ATI and Nvidia is now only six points, the smallest in the last six quarters.

· Mercury claims the total standalone graphics market fell nine per cent in the quarter, sequentially. Nvidia lost three per cent to hold 54% of the market, while ATI moved up by two per cent to 37%.

· The whole desktop graphics market fell by seven per cent in Q2, with the desktop discrete market falling by 10%, amounting to 18 million units.

· However, the notebook graphics market grew by six per cent in Q2, shipments standing at 8.8 million. And Mercury claims ATI and Intel gained share while Nvidia and Via lost share here.

· For the whole portable market, ATI moved up seven per cent to hold 59%, Intel grew eight per cent to 16%, while Nvidia fell by seven per cent to 11%, and Via fell from nine per cent to six per cent.

Mercury said ATI market share is growing in the portable discrete marketplace, with the Canadian firm holding 68%, while once more Nvidia fell, from 9.5% to 19%. µ
Clearly Nvidia is still ahead of ATi. At least in one area. While ATis total domination of the portables is only increasing. I am not trying to say the sky is falling or anything like that. Only that I personally had said that indeed nvidia *DID* lose some market share while ATi gained a little bit.

Which is indeed overall what happened. At least according to this.
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Old Aug 15, 2003, 09:30 AM   #2
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I guess we'll see if ATi can beat nVidia next year after the "R420" launch...
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Old Aug 15, 2003, 09:41 AM   #3
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i cant wait for the R420!!!
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There are some who are even saying that Nvidia will go the way of 3dfx. These are like the AMD zealots who said Intel would go bust. People are swayed too much by brand loyalty to recognize the truth. Nvidia is still doing very well. The same for ATI. There is more than enough business in the graphics industry for both companies to succeed.

I remember hearing how Intel was losing so much market share to AMD. Well, that trend has reversed completely and AMD is now losing out to Intel. We'll see what happens when Clawhammer and Prescott launch.

As consumers, we should embrace competition. That's what helps fuel innovation and lower prices. Imagine what would happen if we only had Nvidia and ATI was like Matrox. Nvidia knows it can't rest on its laurels anymore. ATI is a viable competitor now. We have to see how aggressive Nvidia can become in its attempts to fend off ATI. Here's what I see so far:


1. High-end Market - It's really neck and neck between the FX 5900 Ultra and the 9800 PRO. I would give ATI the nod here because the 9800 PRO costs less, is quieter and doesn't take up your first PCI slot.

2. Mid-level Market - Nvidia's FX 5600 Ultra beats the 9600 PRO here, and the FX 5700 with its 500MHz core and 1000MHz memory will arrive in a couple of months. Although ATI's solutions are cheaper, I would give the nod to Nvidia.

3. Low-end Market - This is FX 5200 vs. 9000-9200 territory. ATI's 9100 is clearly the best option here. This is where Nvidia is making most of its sales because its low-end cards are DX 9.0 capable. ATI needs to get a DX 9.0 capable card in this market.

4. Mobile market - ATI is clearly the leader in this market segment.
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ATI Owns NVIDIA!!!
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I wouldn't say ATI "owns" Nvidia. It has done very well of late, but we all know how quickly market fortunes can change.
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Old Aug 15, 2003, 10:32 AM   #7
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well on the intell AMD thang... Intell NEVER could be beat by AMD, they did not sell as many 1gig cpus during the 2001-2002 time frame when AMD was going great, But never once did intell have anything but profit.... even during the real down time bac acouple of years ago Intell invested 2 billion$ do upgrade THATS 2 billion. Chipzilla is like 20 nividias + 3 or 4 AMDs and a VIA on top.... HUGE! Anyways 4th Qrt will be bigg for ATI! real big!
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I think Nvidia 33%, ATI 33% and Intel 33% would be good
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Would have been much worst, in terms of market share, if Nvidia didn't cut margins (cut down profit by lowering prices --- see latest CC) in a desperate attempt to maintain market share.

And btw, for the other guy, the 5600ultra is in no ways better than the 9600pro. Try testing without cheats and hacks.
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Intel owns nVidia and ATi. I want to see Intel start developing its own high end GPUs.
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I'm interested to see if Ati can successfully deliver an integrated chipset solution for desktop based on the 9600 core. Or at least something Asus, Epox, MSI, ect., might be interested in picking up.
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I wouldn't say ATI "owns" Nvidia.
What did you expect at a ATI site? lol
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Intel owns nVidia and ATi. I want to see Intel start developing its own high end GPUs.
And it would be just as shitty and overpriced as their CPUs
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The intel figure is somewhat misleading as basically every intel chipset based motherboard counts as a unit of one towards their video chip marketshare despite the fact that in many case its not being used.
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Intel owns nVidia and ATi. I want to see Intel start developing its own high end GPUs.
Only because of the number of rubbish integrated solutions it has. They were never very good at add in cards.
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these market boosts came as they announced partnership with Microsoft
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I think Nvidia 33%, ATI 33% and Intel 33% would be good
Actually i think that would TOTALLY SUCK.

We need intel to own about 1% of the graphics market. They are the ones holding the entire Game industry hostage with their sub performing sub featured embedded Graphics cores.

Either that or they licence tech from ATi from now on.
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Angry Yeah, so?

Well nVidia has still got a bazillion dollars so it doesn't matter how many cards they sell or don't sell, they're STILL number one!













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And it would be just as shitty and overpriced as their CPUs
...Cry me a river.

Intel CPUs are not s*****. They are great...I prefer Intel over anything else. AMD does have some nice CPUs though and they do lots of work per clock cycle.

Intel has the resources to hop into the high end GPU market.
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Only bazillion. Didn´t they have quadzillion dollars, man this spells trouble for nvidia!
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I could be wrong, it could have been a bazilion million gazillion dollars.

All I know is they have enough money to buy GOD so it just doesn't matter how their cards sell.

Anyone who says otherwise is just a big, fat, stupid-head fanboy!
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...Cry me a river.

Intel CPUs are not s*****. They are great...I prefer Intel over anything else. AMD does have some nice CPUs though and they do lots of work per clock cycle.

Intel has the resources to hop into the high end GPU market.
Who's crying? Those tears are from laughter at the folks who payed Intel's price for a CPU equivilent to a much lower priced AMD chip Personally I haven't had a system with an Intel chip since my P133, also the last system I bought as oppossed to built. I can't justify paying extra $$ for the same, (or less), performance.

However I will admit to being an AMD fanboy...However they had to earn my trust in the begining and have kept it ever since.

And, I'll grant you Intel has the resources to jump into the high end GPU market...BUT...with all those resources they should have been able to come up with an integrated solution that blows everyone elses away, not the crap they have now.
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1. High-end Market - It's really neck and neck between the FX 5900 Ultra and the 9800 PRO. I would give ATI the nod here because the 9800 PRO costs less, is quieter and doesn't take up your first PCI slot.

2. Mid-level Market - Nvidia's FX 5600 Ultra beats the 9600 PRO here, and the FX 5700 with its 500MHz core and 1000MHz memory will arrive in a couple of months. Although ATI's solutions are cheaper, I would give the nod to Nvidia.

3. Low-end Market - This is FX 5200 vs. 9000-9200 territory. ATI's 9100 is clearly the best option here. This is where Nvidia is making most of its sales because its low-end cards are DX 9.0 capable. ATI needs to get a DX 9.0 capable card in this market.

4. Mobile market - ATI is clearly the leader in this market segment.
1. High-end Market - It's really clear cut between the FX 5900 Ultra and the 9800 PRO. I would give ATI the crown here because the 9800 PRO costs less, is quieter and doesn't take up your first PCI slot. And all anti cheat scripts puts it well ahead of nvidia.

2. Mid-level Market - Nvidia's FX 5600 Ultra gets beat by the 9600 PRO here, I have no faith that nvidia can deliver new products without overclocking, maybe their newly acquired tech will help. Cheaper powerful better design nod to ATI.

3. Low-end Market - This is FX 5200 vs. 9000-9200 territory. ATI's 9100 is clearly the best option here. This is where Nvidia is making most of its sales because its low-end cards are DX 9.0 capable. ATI needs to get a DX 9.0 capable card in this market. agreed nvidia is winning this market however

4. Mobile market - ATI is clearly the leader in this market segment.
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Can we not turn this into an Intel vs AMD CPU thread please? Keep it on topic, thanks guys.
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Can we not turn this into an Intel vs AMD CPU thread please? Keep it on topic, thanks guys.
Sayeth the Intel fanboy-from-hell who is afraid of price/performance comparisons with the TRUE champ of the CPU world....






























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No more AMD/Intel, let's keep making fun of nVidia's financial woes....it's something we can all get on the same page about.
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Sayeth the Intel fanboy-from-hell who is afraid of price/performance comparisons with the TRUE champ of the CPU world....
Don't make me ban you from yet another forum...

I do want to get an AMD rig still, but haven't had chance yet. Anyway, back on topic...
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Can we not turn this into an Intel vs AMD CPU thread please? Keep it on topic, thanks guys.
I just pointed out that based on their other products, I didn't hold out much hope for a high end GPU from them...

But I can see why you don't want me sayin stuff like that

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Don't make me ban you from yet another forum...
You can't ban me for something I say than, it has to be for something I didn't say.

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I do want to get an AMD rig still, but haven't had chance yet.
You'll love it when ya try it, they're neat! I'm not against Intel and happen to like 'em, but AMD has it's own quirks and peculiarities that make it sort of funner to OC than any Intel rig I owned.

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BOOOOOOOOORING! What, just because you outrank me here ya gotta go and pull the rules on me?

Whatever, where were we...

Oh yeah, how do you think Jen-Hsun or whatever is doing today? Think Derek Perez is doing a happy dance?
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And it would be just as shitty and overpriced as their CPUs
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nVidia just seems to be getting what they deserve, what with their obvious driver cheats, hassling Omega about his superior drivers, losing OEM support to ATI, lower image quality and video cards that take up two slots and are STILL slower than ATI's, what do they expect? They need to PRODUCE, not PR. That's why they are catching so much flak now.

On the other hand, ATI has been making some SLAMMIN' cards, visiting the forums here and at DH(probably other places too, I'm sure) helping those with problems, sucking up OEM support, improving their drivers in leaps and bounds, they LIKE Omega and approve of his work and are currently whooping nVidia's butt without getting all cocky about it.

nVidia just doesn't like to lose and they're getting nervous because ATI is giving them a run for their money without having as much of it to spend like Nvidia does. nVidia'a latest tactics look like acts of desperation to me.

I don't think nVidia should go the way of 3DFX though, that's kinda cold. They just need to concentrate more on R & D and less on PR, that's all.

Remember, competition is why we have the fast cards we have now.
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No wonder ATI has such a hard time gaining market share! MAX PAYNE AMD Radeon Discussion and Support 29 Dec 5, 2002 10:43 AM
ATi & nVidia market share ZorPrime33 Off Topic Lounge 7 Jan 21, 2002 12:03 PM


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