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Old Jun 14, 2018, 10:29 AM   #1
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Processor: I7-8700K
Motherboard: ASUS ROG STRIX Z370i-Gaming
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Mem: 32G DDR4-3600
Case: RaidMax Alpha Prime.
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Storage 1: Samsung 960 Evo (500G) SSD
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CD/DVD/BluRay (Non-writable)
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I've always had a Creative SB of some variation, but am not sure if the MB would be fine. I assume the MB has outputs to drive my 4.1 sound system.
I also assume the MB audio wouldn't have output/input jacks on the front of the tower.
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I would be inclined to change the PSU. Which Raidmax are you looking at and whats price on it?
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The board will support front panel audio inputs, and it has an optical output if you're running it to a tuner.

I'm not sure about that PSU either.

Everything else looks fine component wise. The case is always user preference IMO. Just make sure it actually has some airflow. That's something that a lot of cases throw out the window these days.

Edit, Any particular reason you're going for an ITX board in a mid tower case?
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Hapa just linked this in another thread.

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/int...this-fall.html

Worth the wait maybe?
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Good point about the ITX board in a mid tower case. Can you suggest a better one with more airflow?
I have reservations about the case, since I know that the board will support front panel audio inputs, but given the case front is smooth, not sure where this would fit (much less a CD/DVD drive). Perhaps part of it opens?
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Good point about the ITX board in a mid tower case. Can you suggest a better one with more airflow?
I have reservations about the case, since I know that the board will support front panel audio inputs, but given the case front is smooth, not sure where this would fit (much less a CD/DVD drive). Perhaps part of it opens?
Why even get a cd/dvd drive? Most everything now days can be done via flash drive.
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1.) It comes down to the 8700K and what you plan to do with it. Do you plan to OC? 5GHz? Delid? What type of cooling are you going with? What resolution do you plan to run. The 2700X might be more suitable for you and cheaper.

2.) Replace the RaidMax PSU with either EVGA SuperDuper Ultra Nova or preferable Corsair AXi series for reliability.

3.) Samsung 970 Evo, not a 960. What is this 2017?

4.) Bluray drive???? Save the money and get some AREGEEBEE'S!!!!!!!!!1111onetwo.

5.) 3200MHz DDR with a low CAS14 latency would be better then the 3600MHz kit.

As for Audio the motherboard will be fine.
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Judging from your system specs, I would wait. Your upgrading to a dead platform and soon to be 2nd tier gpu.


Also couple other notes.



970s are out now and they don't cost much different at least here in the US
With current ram prices 3600 is kinda meh in terms of any benefit on z370 for the premium cost. I have 4000 running on my 8700k and tbh i can't say it causes any amazing fps increase over the 3400 it replaced. Your really just picking at 1-2 fps at best.
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I'd wait a little bit before doing this
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I say wait, I know new is always coming but New is not far away right now!
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Wait. New stuff will be out before end of the year. You will get 2 more cores for the same price and also be able to get a spanking new omgrafix card.
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I wouldn't go with a RaidMax PSU. I made the mistake of getting a RaidMax 750W Titanium PSU. It blew up after a year, taking my board with it. Sure, it can happen with any PSU manufacturer, but then I found out that RaidMax PSUs only have a two year warranty. That goes to show how much confidence they have in their products.

Get a Seasonic, EVGA or a Corsair instead.

I agree with the other saying to wait, too.
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Thanks for all the advice. I built the PC I have now back in 2011, and only upgraded the RAM amount and the GPU since. Anything new is better

Based on your advice, I've switched the MB to an ATX-form ASUS ROG STRIX Z370H-Gaming, the PSU to an EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G1+ 80 Plus Gold 1000W, and the SSD to a 970 2TB.

Is the RaidMAx case any good, or is it as questionable as the PSU?

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Id say move that 980TI and wait out the next gen NVIDIA OMGRAFIX. Not sure if anyone but the 0.01% is going to go for 2 grafix cards anymore as even AMD is saying its a dying breed. 1000W PSU is way overkill, even if overclocking. So go with like super quality Seasonic 650w platinum psu. (Mine died, protection circuit went off, got a new PSU from warranty and nothing else died, life goes on). Better protection circuits or protection circuits at all are worth the 10-20$ more.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...ew,5187-3.html

Not bad case but.. Maybe think going with mATX? space but smaller than ATX, also reduced price for better components elsewhere. I haven't yet been disappointed of Fractal Design cases. And also there can only be Noctua for cpu cooler!
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EVGA PSUs are pretty tight. 1000 Watts should be minimum for any system.
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Thanks for all the advice. I built the PC I have now back in 2011, and only upgraded the RAM amount and the GPU since. Anything new is better

Based on your advice, I've switched the MB to an ATX-form ASUS ROG STRIX Z370H-Gaming, the PSU to an EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G1+ 80 Plus Gold 1000W, and the SSD to a 970 2TB.

Is the RaidMAx case any good, or is it as questionable as the PSU?

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Ditch the stupid ITX board for an ATX and get a better quality PSU.
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Just make sure whatever case you get, it can fit the ASUS ROG STRIX GeForce GTX1080Ti. This card is LONG.


I thought I had a big case, but the card wouldn't fit until I hacked/sawed the HDD cage.
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It's pretty crazy that a modern midtower case has more room for long graphics cards than an older fulltower case.
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I got the Corsair Carbide 270R for $65 from Microcenter and have zero regrets. Plenty of room for a long card, super easy to build and keep clean. Good bang for the buck.
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Thanks for the suggestions. Getting a quote on the Thermaltake View 71 Tempered Glass Edition RGB Full Tower Chassis.
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It's pretty crazy that a modern midtower case has more room for long graphics cards than an older fulltower case.
Yeah, my Corsair Graphite 600T swallows up a 1080Ti like its a little MX400. It's not an issue.

Hell, that case is even old by PC gaming standards really.
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The strix is not a huge card for most cases these days. Unless you have a small form factor or an outdated design case. A mid tower is fine. I would highly suggest the new evolv x when that drops in august. It will leagues beyond whatever crap thermaltake makes. And yes i did a own a few recent TT cases.
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Thanks for the suggestions. Getting a quote on the Thermaltake View 71 Tempered Glass Edition RGB Full Tower Chassis.
Just swapped out to this case last week, The thing is huge with room to spare. My PC actually looks nice inside now with all the space this thing provides. Just be prepared for the size of it! Its Huge and very heavy with all the Glass in. And Bah on the crap non sense, this case is nice!
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I've always had a Creative SB of some variation, but am not sure if the MB would be fine. I assume the MB has outputs to drive my 4.1 sound system.
I also assume the MB audio wouldn't have output/input jacks on the front of the tower.
Going to chime in on this point.
Onboard audio has improved by a huge amount in the last few years. Isolated audio circuits, replaceable op-amps and adjustable gain have become pretty common but in most cases these features only apply to the rear audio jacks. Coupled with the fact that the front panel audio implementation on most cases is less than stellar, cross-talk and interference can be an issue making the front panel jacks sub optimal for headset use.

I would also mention that I have never personally seen onboard audio with native support for 4.1. It would have to be set to 5.1 with the center channel disabled, not sure if this would have an affect on the low frequency channel.

I have personally been considering an SB AE5 simply for the convenience of the dedicated headphone jack, really getting tired of reaching around the back of the case to switch between the headset and speakers.
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Are there any decent CPU coolers that aren't the size of a house or skyscraper? Something decent but small form for the 8th gens. The ones I read that were recommended (Noctua, Dark Pro) are just too insanely huge with ridiculously large 120mm+ fans.

Does it really take that much to cool a 8700k to 4.7 Ghz? That's all I would want out of a 8700k or whatever the 8 core equivalent is.
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Are there any decent CPU coolers that aren't the size of a house or skyscraper? Something decent but small form for the 8th gens. The ones I read that were recommended (Noctua, Dark Pro) are just too insanely huge with ridiculously large 120mm fans.

Does it really take that much to cool a 8700k to 4.7 Ghz? That's all I would want out of a 8700k or whatever the 8 core equivalent is.
4.7 is about the norm max you can get thru without delidding to avoid 80s plus. If you don't wait a huge cooler its either aio, or delidding then using a smaller cooler for 4.7
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