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Old Aug 20, 2019, 06:36 PM   #1
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Old Aug 20, 2019, 06:47 PM   #2
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What the hell? Wasn't it done? I mean I didn't think 3 was good but it was the full arc?

Sense8 was solid but this could easily go badly.
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One of the brothers... err sisters is directing, so it should be interesting.

I hope it's not a complete reboot of the matrix, and they continue on with the story. They could make it neo and trinity vs the machines, and they form a resistance to hack back into the matrix.

Because you know the machines rebooted it anyway... :P
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they could do a whole other story arc with different people, like fear the walking dead, I would be into that... I agree the whole Neo arc is done...
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As a huge Matrix fan (you can kinda tell from my signature ) I am not so sure about this.


If it's a reboot, I'll pass. If it's passing the torch to the new generation, I'll be intrigued. Hopefully with Keanu and Carrie-Ann Moss involved, it'll be the latter. At least they won't have to de-age Keanu
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Trinity and Neo are both dead. I know the oracle said they might see Neo again some day but I always thought she was referring to the reincarnation of "the one". If Mr Reeves is returning to reprise the role of Neo then it's not a reincarnation.

If it were a prequal then Neo wouldn't be in it and a sequel seems like a stretch to me. They would have to clone their bodies and then inject all of their digital data that was their lives back into their heads? Maybe they are just digital copies? Seems odd that Trinity and Neo are going to be back in a sequel that's all I'm saying. Reminds me of Alien 4 where they had to clone Ripley and the alien in order to make a new movie. At that point you know it should have ended. Is Laurence Fishburn's Morpheus returning or is it so far in the future that he is dead and nobody bothered to bring him back?

I hope it's cool, I love the first film and while the other two were not as good as the first, I liked them all. It's gonna take some serious creative writing to keep this from feeling like a cheap cash grab though.
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Maybe I'm missing something, but didn't both Neo and Trinity real world die in the 3rd one? Unless its some sort of cameo with ghosts in the matrix, it doesn't make much sense.

There is lots of room for more stories within the Matrix universe, but the Neo storyline is done and in general sequels of sci-fi movies don't really pan out that great.

The first one was great because of the intrigue and the big reveals / mind****s. The second and third had some great scenes, but overall once the mystery was gone they were bland sci-fi action movies.
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It's also odd that only one of the Wackowskies is returning to do direct this. They built it together and neither of them are doing anything at the moment which tells me they have creative differences on this.
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The reason why the first Matrix was SO much better than the other two is the story was tight and just about perfectly paced. There wasn't any convoluted bullcrap that diluted the other two movies. If they keep this one simple, it could be good. Maybe take a page out of John Wick's success...
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Both Neo and Trinity can still be alive in the Matrix. Most of the movie takes place in the Matrix. So plenty of screen time if they go that route.
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Yeah that could be, they would just be digital copies though or programs so to speak. Laurence Fishburn is getting old and I don't think I would be cool with someone else playing his role.
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I'm with you man. The last two were annoying yet I enjoyed them... because matrix! I would have much preferred if I didn't have to google WTF I just watched when I left the theater.
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Or it could be like the fan theory where zion and etc were all level 2 of the matrix.
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Possible theatrical re-release of the original for its 20th anniversary?
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For some reason I've forgotten, I didn't see any movies at theaters from 1997 to maybe 2001, so I missed some really good ones like Saving Private Ryan and The Matrix, among many others. Either the second Matrix or the first LOTR was the first move I saw in a theater, at the time, for at least three years.

Wait and see on #4.
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I watched them all in the theater as they were released but these days I don't go out much for movies. I did buy the new 4K versions of the Matrix trilogy and was really pleased with the extra detail and especially the remixed Atmos track.
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I haven't been to the theater since I bought this ultra wide screen monitor. I can wait, and pause when I need to piss. As an added bonus I don't have to worry about getting shot when leaving by some rival thugs.
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Remember what happened with the Disney Star Wars cash grab: they brought back the original actors, then destroyed the characters. Those movies should never have been made, just like it sounds like these new Matrix movies shouldn't be made (yes, there'll be more than one).
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My bet is they will have Keanu and Carrie Ann voice their digital younger copies in the matrix. Apparently they have a really cool story that all involved think is great. I was hoping for animatrix style backstory prequel like second renaissance but any new matrix is fine by me. This is not a reboot btw the Variety article said its a continuation.

If this is a hit they might well do a series in the universe. Theres so much left unexplored Im game for more.

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I hope that Neo & Trinity are grumpy old failures, so the movies can instead focus on introducing a younger cast of diverse actors, preferably with the new hero being a woman. Matrix4 can feature Neo and they can kill him in a dumb way at the end, then Matrix5 will supposed to feature Trinity, but the actress will die before shooting, so they'll splice together some older footage and rewrite the story to feature Morpheus instead. That's what I'm hoping for!
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Remember what happened with the Disney Star Wars cash grab: they brought back the original actors, then destroyed the characters. Those movies should never have been made, just like it sounds like these new Matrix movies shouldn't be made (yes, there'll be more than one).
If it's a "passing of the torch" Matrix count me out. It's not Matrix without Keanu.
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They died? All I remember from the last film is Neo making some peace treaty with the machine... I think.
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And frankly, not too late for them to do it. If there's another level of reality that supercedes everything that happened, then there's a whole other level of storytelling that can happen. Hell, they could literally "reboot" the 2nd and third films by restoring from backups. hahah.
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They died? All I remember from the last film is Neo making some peace treaty with the machine... I think.
Trinity died crashing the ship getting into the machine city, and then Neo was sacrificed when he let Smith take him over in order to get rid of him.

Forgetting about the third movie isn’t a bad thing. It had a couple good scenes, but the story had jumped the shark by the end of the second movie.
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There is only the 1st movie. pure epicness!!
I refuse to acknowledge any of the crap that happened after that.
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It turns out that the real world was a 'Matrix' for the machines run by an advanced cybernetic alien race... so now they are fighting to free themselves from the aliens!


It's what happens when Inception and The Matrix get stoned on Meth and opiates, have unprotected sex... the result is...

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Maybe it'll turn out that the "real world" is actually a simulation run by humans to make the machines believe they have taken over and have enslaved humanity.
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