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Old Jul 7, 2019, 03:14 PM   #1
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Been tons of discussion about AMD vs Intel and is X570 worth it, etc.; but if you're here, you're obviously not an Intel fanboi and you made the decision Zen 2 is worth it (if not x570).... so while this may be jumping the gun as mine isn't in my hands yet (is anybody's???) Here we go...

What'd you get, why did you get that one, where'd you get it from, what you putting it with....???

I went with the 3900x and x570 Aorus Master b/c this will be my system for the next 4 or 5 years. Hoping the cores and pcie4 will help it age slower. Board is from Newegg, CPU from Best Buy.
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I'm getting a 3900X, but still undecided on the board. I'm definitely getting an x570 board though.
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From Newegg. Probably wont have till the end of the week.
Just swapping my old 6600K and ASUS TUF board out and reusing the RAM.

Edit: Shipping confirmation with estimated delivery of Friday. Hopefully so, Would be a good weekend of playing around with it.

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G.SKILL Trident Z RGB 3600MHz

CPU from newegg.ca but shipped from USA, so that will be a while. Mobo was a pre-order from Amazon.ca on July 2, it hasn't updated to shipped yet. RAM was purchased yesterday, should ship today or tomorrow.

I could have made my current hardware last much longer, but I want to donate it to a family member that is like 4 generations behind.

Edit: Amazon.ca fugged up and there was never stock for the mobo pre-orders. Cancelled and ordered the same mobo from Mike's Computer Shop and it shipped same-day.

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I got a used 3900X from Micro Center because that's all they had. Created a new thread because I asked questions on what to look out for. Did not want to trash this thread up.
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Used? Already damn... how much did you save?
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How the hell does a game need bios update just for a new cpu? Goddamnit, thankfully it's only one game. I wonder why and what other games need such a thing if there's any?

Is there any comparison review on msi Meg x570 Ace yet? Especially regarding the chipset temperature? AFAIK it's the only board on that price range (and lower) that has heatpipe connecting the chipset heatsink to the vrm heatsink, wanna know if it does decrease the temperature.
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Bought a Ryzen 3900x just because the i5-2500k has done its job.
MSI Performance Gaming MPG X570 Gaming motherboard.
32GB 3200 CL14 RAM just because.

I realized I upgrade every.... what? 7.5 years is that now?? so why not go all out.

Installation of everything was flawless.

Here in Toronto area Canada Computers had about 40 of these CPUs in stock day after release. Called and saw there were 5 at one location. Confirmed by employee. Got there an hour later and all sold out.
Drove to Mississauga location as it said 9 in stock. They put one on hold and I got it. The next day NONE of the locations had any.
I got the MSI board as it was the only $200's $CAD motherboard they had. I don't need a $800 board as I don't think I'll overclock this time...or at least not yet.

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Witcher 3 - Max gfx minus hairworks:
GTX 1070 on the i5-2500k @ 1440p -> 44-60 FPS walking around
GTX 1070 on this new setup @ 1440p -> 56-68 FPS walking around
So the video card wasn't being fed enough CPU juice previously.
for giggles the new setup @ 4k -> 30-36 FPS
You went all out with the worst motherboard in Msi lineup???
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You went all out with the worst motherboard in Msi lineup???
I'm sure the $200 and $800 boards are almost the same. All will run 16 cores. I'm sure the $800 ones will overclock an extra 100mhZ on LN2. I honestly don't see the need for the expensive boards, although a third m.2 slot would be nice
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You are not supposed to get all core clocks to the advertised boost speed as it's only for single core nevertheless reviewers noted that with the Abba agesa you could get 2 cores 4 threads to boost at the advertised speed now.
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Installed the new abba bios last night on my board, its very stable, some benchmarks show improvement some are flat.

I love the fact AMD is adding performance while the vulnerability patches for Intel are slowing their cpu's down. I have never been more convinced I made the correct choice going back to AMD.
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Probably will mean the 3080 Ti gets held until that time.
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Probably will mean the 3080 Ti gets held until that time.


dream on that NV would wait for AMD and maybe have to lower prices

18 months from 1080 ti to 2080 ti

18 months more to March to April 16 2020 as cyberpunk 2077 hits April 16
I bet they won't pass up 2077 & ray tracing selling lots of very high priced cards
this thing looks like that with RT it will be Crysis 1 on steroids and need a 3080 ti at 4k to get 40 to 45 FPS


wish I didn't pre order as it is sure to come with a new 3080 ti

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So I plunged in and bought a 3900X, hope it would fare better and last as long as this 5930K (with a somewhat cursed Asus x99 deluxe motherboard that somehow killed another 5930K and 4 sticks of RAM over the years).

I'd be using gigabyte Aorus master this time, because gigabyte has the best hardware and bios support this time around.
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I've had a frustrating month.

Labour Day weekend my computer stopped working. It would start, then just before it was supposed to start booting an OS, it would power off, then restart, and keep failing. Sometimes I could get to the BIOS, sometimes I wouldn't even get video.

Tried multiple PSUs, tried with my video card, tried with only the onboard video (my processor is a i5-6600k). Bought a cheapo stick of RAM to test. Same result.

Figured it's probably the motherboard.

Same day (Sunday morning) I bought a similar used motherboard for $50, shipping Newfoundland (I'm in Ontario). Dude waits until the Friday, almost a full week, before sending it. And he waited just long enough for the mail to get delayed because the east coast got hit by Dorian. I didn't get the motherboard until today (18 days later).

And it doesn't work. Same problem. Probably means the CPU is what's dead. I've been using a passively cooled Zotac ZBOX for almost a month now.

So **** it, I bought a Ryzen 5 3600 with a MSI B450 Tomahawk. Hopefully Amazon gets it to me by Friday.
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Yeas those wanting that 7nm stuff might want to grab it now as they are selling out and TSMC has pushed back orders 3 fold to 6 months as they cant satisfy demand.

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TSMC clients have been fighting over 7nm production capacity and TSMC is set to struggle with demand.

DigiTimes unnamed industry sources have revealed that TSMC has significantly extended the production lead time on 7nm from two months to six months. This tripling of the lead time is a cause for concern.

There are some problems with the rumour AMD is a big client of TSMC, and so doubtless has secured contracts to ensure that its nearer-term supply.

The issue might be more in the future unless TSMC does not set aside more budget for expanding 7nm manufacturing capacity.
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I think I got an utter shitty 3900x, cant even hit 4.6 GHz on any cores in single thread workload even with Abba agesa bios.

Also the temp is high when running cinebench r20, like 80 celcius high.
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Also the temp is high when running cinebench r20, like 80 celcius high.
You try and remount your cooler? Had issues on an older system where the retention mechanism on one was corner was ever so loose and caused high temps and low performance.

What cooler are you using by the way?
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You try and remount your cooler? Had issues on an older system where the retention mechanism on one was corner was ever so loose and caused high temps and low performance.



What cooler are you using by the way?
Corsair H115i Platinum, yes I'll try remount ing the cooler, but I also live in a hot tropical area, anyway it's not like I'll be grinding this cpu at 100% load 24/7 and we know the performance doesn't differ much, so I'd just move on with it.
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Zen 2 tends to run pretty hot. I think a lot of it is simply due to the smaller process. There's a lot of heat concentrated in a smaller area. You'll probably see a bit higher temps than you were used to for that reason. It's not necessarily a heatsink problem, but just the transfer of heat out of the die.
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well that's the strange thing, I can set the fans from Icue but not the pump, somehow it's greyed out
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Can you read your pump speed?
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I could and I just solved that, the icue software is pretty ridiculous and not so intuitive... Anyway it seem that no matter what I do the full load temp doesn't bulge much, so I'd just accept this and move on. I did see hwinfo recorded one of my cores peak clockspeed exceeded 4.6ghz but only under cool room temperature.

What I haven't tried is to actually set the voltage manually, I did try negative voltage offset and it helped the temp, but if I offset it too much below it would lower cinebench scores.
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May want to be careful with other programs and your corsair one. I had an issue running HW info with it in the background that stopped the fan curve from applying and after 45 minutes of gaming my FPS would get sluggish and choppy and I'd see a temp of 100c on the chip. Instantly shut it down, checked all fans, etc. couldn't find anything wrong. Happened again a couple of days later when trying to troubleshoot something else. Did some Google Fu and couldn't find anything until I caught a line of some dudes signature on another forum. Sure enough, stress test with both software open and the fans wouldn't budge from their low RPM setting. Have zero problems individually, but together something is up. Was aware of the warning at ryzen 3 launch, but didn't expect that sort of issue, worse I figured would be incorrect reporting, not nearly frying the chip.

This is with my 100iv2 and the corsair link software, not sure about the iCue one though.
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May want to be careful with other programs and your corsair one. I had an issue running HW info with it in the background that stopped the fan curve from applying and after 45 minutes of gaming my FPS would get sluggish and choppy and I'd see a temp of 100c on the chip. Instantly shut it down, checked all fans, etc. couldn't find anything wrong. Happened again a couple of days later when trying to troubleshoot something else. Did some Google Fu and couldn't find anything until I caught a line of some dudes signature on another forum. Sure enough, stress test with both software open and the fans wouldn't budge from their low RPM setting. Have zero problems individually, but together something is up. Was aware of the warning at ryzen 3 launch, but didn't expect that sort of issue, worse I figured would be incorrect reporting, not nearly frying the chip.

This is with my 100iv2 and the corsair link software, not sure about the iCue one though.
I mean I haven't even used this new pc for gaming yet and I already seen the icue behaving utter crap, constantly ringing bells and randomly changing fan speed I just set the app to not launch at start and for now I settled for -0.05v voltage offset for the cpu, turn the temp down couple of degrees without lowering the performance much.
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I've had my 2700 for six months or so and very happy with it coming from a quad core 7700K even though the IPC is less. I'll wait until Zen 3 comes along and if it's still AM4 socket I might buy it otherwise I'll get a 3800X instead. Happy chappy.
Recent news confirmed that zen 3 is still on am4, zen 4 is the complete socket change with ddr5 and maybe pcie5.
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