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Old Jun 23, 2019, 08:56 AM   #1
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Default The Corsair MP510 SSD: Best Value?

I asked yesterday about cases, today is boot drive day!

The 970 Evo/Pro is the champ, no question. BUT...the 1TB Corsair MP510 nvme is almost $100 less than the Evo.

(at the 8:15 mark)


Review showing what's probably more realistic results:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13438...510-ssd-review

Still....think I'd rather put that extra $100 into CPU/Mobo than something more easily replaced (also, if I go x570, the pcie4 drives will be out soon (affordability a different issue).

What say you all?
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ADATA SX8200
Is basically the same drive as the MP510 and seem to be cheaper then the corsair offering often.

There's honestly not a lot of noticeable performance difference even from a sata ssd to the fastest nvme drives for every day stuff like boot times or game load times if you check out reviews. It's mostly the synthetic benchmarks only were you see the difference and some very large file workloads will show improvements.

The cheaper option may be going with a smaller size nvme drive like in the 256gb range for an OS drive, and then for cost savings getting large 2.5" 1tb ssd's for program storage. Or perhaps something like the intel QLC 660p nvme
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Old Jun 23, 2019, 05:01 PM   #3
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Corsair every time. Samsung is overpriced.
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might want to wait till the 7th and see what prices are on the new ones if you plan on a x570 MB

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14416...d-with-pcie-40
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Prices will be high on the new series.
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https://www.anandtech.com/show/14416...d-with-pcie-40

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There's honestly not a lot of noticeable performance difference even from a sata ssd to the fastest nvme drives for every day stuff like boot times or game load times if you check out reviews. It's mostly the synthetic benchmarks only were you see the difference and some very large file workloads will show improvements.

The cheaper option may be going with a smaller size nvme drive like in the 256gb range for an OS drive, and then for cost savings getting large 2.5" 1tb ssd's for program storage. Or perhaps something like the intel QLC 660p nvme
I am running the same drive. Fast as heck. On a cold boot it boots into windows in under 10 seconds.
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I'd be concerned with reliability first and foremost. Samsung SSDs are proven, not sure about Corsair.
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might want to wait till the 7th and see what prices are on the new ones if you plan on a x570 MB

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14416...d-with-pcie-40
Dear God the HS on that thing is ugly. And bulky might not go in a slot where a pcie add in card is hanging over...

Is that HS really necessary? They say the controller could use some cooling on an nvme drive but the nand chips like to run warm and perform better that way.
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Looks like the 1TB MP600 will be ~$250. No prices yet for Gigabyte, AFAIK.

The benchmark speeds are quicker but they're not that much quicker. My guess is real-life speed differences are not noticeable at all.

Think I may just pick up whatever 500gb I can find for ~$60 (my games are on a 1tb mx500) and wait for better firmware and price drops (hopefully)
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When you're looking to buy the cheaper drive reliability isn't the first concern.
Corsair's drive is cheap because it uses cheaper and less reliable Nand.
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When you're looking to buy the cheaper drive reliability isn't the first concern.
Corsair's drive is cheap because it uses cheaper and less reliable Nand.
Is it really less reliable though? What proof do you have?

My Corsair drives have held up fantastic. I see plenty of people with dead Samsung drives, so what am I paying extra for again?
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You should be backing up your important data anyway. If you're relying on the reliability of any SSD (or HDD for that matter) you're just asking for trouble.
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I got the 1TB for $120, we'll see how it does. I know Samsung is a "can't go wrong" choice, but IF this drive doesn't last, sucks, etc., and IF I get a X570 mobo, I'd be looking replacing it with a pcie4 drive anyway
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My 960Evo died on me, but the replacement is on the way. I will say that Samsung makes replacement super easy. No cost shipping to boot.
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I got the 1TB for $120, we'll see how it does. I know Samsung is a "can't go wrong" choice, but IF this drive doesn't last, sucks, etc., and IF I get a X570 mobo, I'd be looking replacing it with a pcie4 drive anyway
I just ordered one of the 1 TBs too. It's not worth paying a $100 premium for a Samsung. In the past there was some justification based on performance, but not really with the MP510. Thanks for bringing the drive to my attention.
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I'm quite happy with my 512GB Intel 660p NVMe.
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I have a 2TB 660p and I run my steam games off it. Those drives are fast compared to SATA SSD and allocate a portion of the QLC as SLC on a sliding scale.

The min and max SLC cache are posted here: https://www.anandtech.com/show/13078...c-nand-arrives

I also own a Samsung 970 EVO Plus - that's a fast drive and is a boot drive on my single server I have. the 660p is in my main PC which is going to be nuked this weekend.


For the question of best value I just got one of these:
https://www.microcenter.com/product/...id-state-drive

Currently 1TB for $98
Read Speed 3,100 MBps
Write Speed 1,900 MBps
Random Read 4K 520,000 IOPS
Random Write 4K 430,000 IOPS

Micro Center even sales them on Amazon now but I think they are a few dollars more.

I have not installed this yet but will this weekend with my used 3900x and MSI Meg X570 Ace and see what happens.
Edit: 1TB model has writes over 3,000 as well. Check Amazon reviews in link below.

Micro Center also had their own branded PCIe 4.0 M.2 NVMe drives! Since I could not find any M.2 water blocks I passed as all PCIe 4.0 stuff seems to act like heaters.

Edit: Amazon link https://www.amazon.com/Inland-Premiu.../dp/B07RCM6DXK

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It's incredible how much performance we get from ssd sata/pcie nvme drives now. Even the cheapest ones. The only thing that really comes into play is reliability at this point. Waffling over paper numbers vs. real life performance is almost pointless. And that is a good thing.
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It's incredible how much performance we get from ssd sata/pcie nvme drives now. Even the cheapest ones. The only thing that really comes into play is reliability at this point. Waffling over paper numbers vs. real life performance is almost pointless. And that is a good thing.
I plan on upgrading to a ryzen 3600 at some point but I'm skeptical that an nvme drive is really worth it compared to my mx500. Quite frankly I've never noticed a difference when upgrading a SSD other than capacity.
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I plan on upgrading to a ryzen 3600 at some point but I'm skeptical that an nvme drive is really worth it compared to my mx500. Quite frankly I've never noticed a difference when upgrading a SSD other than capacity.
When the drives are the same price and you're looking to hook up more than 6 sata drives those nvme drives become a bit more enticing. On the flip side of that if you wanna go minimalist without the added frustration of sata and power cables cluttering up your shitty cramped case () and with drives falling to prices that compare or beat the old hat sata 2.5 inch stuff that's double the pleasure and twice the fun.

If not for speed then convenience should be just enough to whip it out and pickle a few cucumbers. If you're still holding out then you're either using old hardware like a peasant or haven't realized prices have been dropping like a rock these past 6 months.
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So is it worth it using average nvme like adata xpg 8200 pro over average ssd like transcend sata ssd?
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So is it worth it using average nvme like adata xpg 8200 pro over average ssd like transcend sata ssd?
You kind of have to check reviews. Some SSDs can be pretty junky, although I don't know if many NVME ones are.

But, I mean, in terms of performance, you probably won't be able to notice the difference unless you're going from one of the worst SSDs in existence. It's more like if you're upgrading to large capacity, then go ahead and pay up for an NVME since the premium isn't that big anymore. It's not worth upgrading for the actual performance increase for most people--if you're one that it's worth it for, then you'll already know that.
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Also I want to know if a 256 GB drive is enough for windows 10 and all it's updates plus some multimedia apps and hardware related apps. Or do I need 512 for safety?
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256 is fine. I have a fully updated windows 10 1903 with some editing software and a bunch of legacy save games and crap in my user folder and i still have like 134 gb free.

If you use those mech drives for games then you should be golden.
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256 is fine. I have a fully updated windows 10 1903 with some editing software and a bunch of legacy save games and crap in my user folder and i still have like 134 gb free.



If you use those mech drives for games then you should be golden.
Mech drives? Do you mean regular hdd? Why?
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Because a lot of modern games are 50GB+ in size? 256GB is plenty for a boot drive, but unless you only ever want a small handful of games installed at any given time, you'd need more than just the smaller-sized SSD in order to fit everything.
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Because a lot of modern games are 50GB+ in size? 256GB is plenty for a boot drive, but unless you only ever want a small handful of games installed at any given time, you'd need more than just the smaller-sized SSD in order to fit everything.
got 2 1tb and a 2tb SSD's for game drives
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now that I got game pass I may need another 2tb before the 4tb price drops

anybody know how the cheaper ones are

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