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Old May 7, 2019, 04:05 PM   #211
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I don’t know what kind of benchmarks you’re using but the 2700X @ 3.8 is no where near 3% of your 7700K @ 4.8 in the large majority of games.
Remember I game at 1440p so I'm essentially GPU bound so it doesn't make a great deal of difference TBH. In gaming can I tell 110 fps to 107 fps don't think so but in synthetic benchmarks it shows up. I play games not benchmarks and I can honestly not tell any difference since I upgraded except I have 4 more cores and 16 more threads Oh and it runs way quieter and cooler so what's not to like.

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Old May 7, 2019, 04:26 PM   #212
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I don’t know what kind of benchmarks you’re using but the 2700X @ 3.8 is no where near 3% of your 7700K @ 4.8 in the large majority of games.
Here's one site and remember results vary dependent on hardware. https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/...7_2700/14.html

Overclocking the 7770K from boost at 4.5 to all core at 4.8 meant no performance enhancement. When I clocked it to 5ghz all cores same result. I've owned both CPU's so I think I can be a bit more objective in my reasoning as a few fps here or there in any game when you're GPU bound does not make any difference.

Just my 2c's worth.
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Old May 7, 2019, 10:05 PM   #213
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It just depends on the games you play and frame rate targets. I'm CPU limited in quiet a few games at 1440p.
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Yeah, I'm CPU limited on more and more games as well now a days. That's kind of what I get running a 7 year old CPU. I'm starting to see stuttering in VR on newer games that I know is because of the CPU. Also looking at what others are hitting FPS wise on new games shows the age of my setup. It's not a whole lot but it is there.
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1800x ES also had a low clock. They boosted it by 800 mhz at release. Not saying thats how much a change this ES will have as all the leaks so far show the 16 core having a 4.7 boost.
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So long as the 3850x is 4.3GHz to 5.1GHz I don't care.
Even if it is just 5Ghz, I'll be all over it.

Zen is really not that far behind Intel right now, the clock speed advantage has really only been their saving grace; couple that with for years Intel was the only real game in town and thus everything was made with them in mind because everything was made on them...

Will be interesting to see what is found out through the lead up to CES as well as what is released.
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Ram up to 5000mhz listed for the ryzen 3xxx apparently. and a 1/2 clock divider option for memory as well so the cpu infinity fabric would run at half the memory speed.

going to need a lot of testing done to figure out where the new sweet spot for memory will be with that.


I wonder if that will be an option locked to the x570 boards, or considering it's baked into the IMC on the cpu, if bios updates on older boards could allow it.
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Ram up to 5000mhz listed for the ryzen 3xxx apparently. and a 1/2 clock divider option for memory as well so the cpu infinity fabric would run at half the memory speed.

going to need a lot of testing done to figure out where the new sweet spot for memory will be with that.


I wonder if that will be an option locked to the x570 boards, or considering it's baked into the IMC on the cpu, if bios updates on older boards could allow it.
and what does ddr4 5000mhz ram cost ?

16gb 4800mhz 800 bucks
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16820236516


think i'll stick with my 3200mhz ram for now
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So long as the 3850x is 4.3GHz to 5.1GHz I don't care.
It would make sense if the lower core count would have noticeably higher clock speeds.

I wonder why that hasn't been the case?
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think i'll stick with my 3200mhz ram for now
what gains do you get over your 3200mhz? Is there more than 1fps advantage in that 4800mhz?
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don't know

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Nah TR will still have a place. Prosumer is a pretty decently sized market.

And with leaks talking up Zen 3 having 5 threads pre cpu (cpu plus 4 SMT) it will need that 4 lane memory to feed it. Mind you the rumor that the IO die will have HBM on die might placate that a bit.
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what gains do you get over your 3200mhz? Is there more than 1fps advantage in that 4800mhz?
Ryzen loves ram almost as much as chrome does. Tons of reviews, youtube videos showing what higher speeds and equally important CL timings do to performance.

I don't think many (any?) really get Ryzen running over 4000 mhz often, you'd need killer ram as well as a golden cpu for that.

But if the Ryzen 3xxx I/O and IMC rumours are true that may be much easier to do.










3200 CL 14 is the suggested sweet spot by most sites, but there are samsung B-die ram kits that are 3600 CL15 as an example, and most B-die sets can oc very well. Ryzen ram calculator program apparently helps you get the most out of them, people get down to CL 12 and other low timings at 3200 and above and it makes a difference.
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Nah TR will still have a place. Prosumer is a pretty decently sized market.

And with leaks talking up Zen 3 having 5 threads pre cpu (cpu plus 4 SMT) it will need that 4 lane memory to feed it. Mind you the rumor that the IO die will have HBM on die might placate that a bit.
I got my TR & zenith extreme for all the pcie lanes for CFX or SLI and they promptly killed them

and now they drop TR from the 2019 roadmap, maybe it will be 2020
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Personally, I think the people running 3200 C12 or 3600 MHz C15 on Ryzen 1000 or 2000 series are probably not fully stable. I've been around too long hearing these tales of "amazing overclocks", and I never manage to come anywhere near them. If you do a half-assed job testing stability it's much easier to pull out impressive numbers.

Based on my experience with at least four different Ryzen processors, 3200, 3333, maybe 3466 are realistic memory frequencies to hit. Outside of that you're probably either looking at a golden sample, or stability was tested using an ineffective program, or not long enough.

All the same 3600 C15 is still the sweet spot for buying performance memory. Not because it will work at that frequency now, but more for the potential for the future. For the time being, hitting 3200 or 3333 C14 should unlock the vast majority of Ryzen's potential.
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Personally, I think the people running 3200 C12 or 3600 MHz C15 on Ryzen 1000 or 2000 series are probably not fully stable. I've been around too long hearing these tales of "amazing overclocks", and I never manage to come anywhere near them. If you do a half-assed job testing stability it's much easier to pull out impressive numbers.

Based on my experience with at least four different Ryzen processors, 3200, 3333, maybe 3466 are realistic memory frequencies to hit. Outside of that you're probably either looking at a golden sample, or stability was tested using an ineffective program, or not long enough.

All the same 3600 C15 is still the sweet spot for buying performance memory. Not because it will work at that frequency now, but more for the potential for the future. For the time being, hitting 3200 or 3333 C14 should unlock the vast majority of Ryzen's potential.

I have 3000Mhz B-Die from GSkill and my 1900X has severe issues holding this DRAM at 2933. So I can agree with you to an extent there. But, my 1900X is also an early production model. It'll do 3200Mhz but only if I crank the SoC voltage to 1.2V.. so I am of the mind the IMC's on Threadrippers are hit and miss as I don't believe they test those when binning them.
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The specs sheet confirms that X570 chipset supports PCI Express Gen 4, although this information is only mentioned for the M.2 interface.

The X570 RACING GT8 features three PCIe x16 slots and three PCIe x1 slots. There is only one Gigabit Ethernet port and it appears that the motherboard ships with a DVI display connector (for Vega-based processors).

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So I guess most x570 mobos will have a chipset fan it sounds like. related to using all the nvme slots? guess pcie 4.0 is really working it.
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So I guess most x570 mobos will have a chipset fan it sounds like. related to using all the nvme slots? guess pcie 4.0 is really working it.


hopefully Asus or someone will put the chipset somewhere else on the board that you can water cool it
and not under the video card

but I have all ssd's and no nvme ones so if the fan only runs when needed it may not be that bad
but the chipset fan on my Rampage IV Extreme was annoying as hell
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Ya Id read that pcie 4 would maybe run at best 6 inches from the cpu on high end x370/470 so the first slot and maybe one nvme at best if the vendors enable it. Hope we get that as an option but wonder what that does to the chipset power increase.

But to have pcie4 on all pcie slots and nvme's ect would probably need stupid amounts of power as buildzoid says.
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Old May 14, 2019, 09:06 PM   #233
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Old May 15, 2019, 01:32 PM   #234
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Colorful CVN X570 Gaming Pro


https://hothardware.com/news/colorfu...-2-motherboard

fan in same place
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Old May 15, 2019, 03:53 PM   #235
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Seeing the chipset HSF and heat concerns, I’m kinda curious how two graphics cards will fair with an NVMe drive sitting between them. Probably nothing to worry about.

Still can’t wait to do this build. Have almost everything ready (case, PSU, drives, etc.).
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Old May 15, 2019, 05:34 PM   #236
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I wouldn't expect the chipset to move, that seems to be the place they put it on just about every board.
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Old May 15, 2019, 07:49 PM   #237
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I wouldn't expect the chipset to move, that seems to be the place they put it on just about every board.
well some like the crosshair viii formula maybe a bigger EATX MB with a little more room

at least get it out from under slot 1 or have a water cool block with it that will clear the biggest video card

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Yay buzzing failure prone small diameter chipset fans!
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Yay buzzing failure prone small diameter chipset fans!
better than having a plague chip


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but yea I hated the one on my rampage iv extreme

but this one may not be needed if not using any m.2's
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