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Old Feb 24, 2012, 04:44 PM   #6181
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The camo thing may be a bug but the rest of the thing you listed is features and demand dev QA that is irrelavant to game design / balance. It more than a wish list that is more unlikely going to happen.
Again, the list wasn't made based on your definition of what you think bugs are. It's a common list of things found in the game that people want fixed and I agree with it. In this case what's irrelevant is you trying to imply why I posted the list of fixes and calling it something else.

If you examine some of the things they are fixing/tweaking in the game it has nothing to do with what you are trying to imply. Look at the weapon and attachment tweaks for example. It has nothing to do with what you think a bug is. So, it would make sense that other aspects of the game should be tweaked/fixed. This makes your argument about what a bug is and how you see relevance moot.

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Old Feb 24, 2012, 05:04 PM   #6182
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The Patch note is all about fixes and game balance tweaks that are bugs in general. Game balance issues is considered bugs. Tweaks based upon people complain does not always come up as much sense when they don't affect gameplay or when it work as intended, thus your comment about remove Blue Tint and Sun Glare and change the minimap for example is not going to happen simply because it is working as intended and not a bug and would be a waste of money to remove features that implied months of dev of QA because a niche users don't like them.
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Old Feb 24, 2012, 05:11 PM   #6183
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The Patch note is all about fixes and game balance tweaks that are bugs in general. Game balance issues is considered bugs. Tweaks upon people complain does not always come up as much sense when they don't affect gameplay or work as intended, thus your comment about remove Blue Tint and Sun Glare and minimap for example is not going to happen simply because it is working as intended and not a bug and would be a waste of money to remove features that implied months of dev of QA because a niche users don't like them.
I am already aware of how you redefine bugs so there is no need to explain why. However, you can make it up all you want but it doesn't change what I've posted. People have complained about some of the issues currently in the patch notes. They've also complained about
-blue tint/sun
-not saving your camo
-no in game voip
-spotting through smoke
-lack of sound and other noises behind you
-the mini map
-command rose (not included in the patch notes but is said to be fixed)
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It's clear you understand that the patch notes reflect peoples complaints not just about your view on bugs. So at this point your arguing just to argue. But know this, we will only agree to disagree .

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Old Feb 24, 2012, 05:20 PM   #6184
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I know, when I go to that kind of thing at work I simply check 'will not fix' when come these issues
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Old Feb 24, 2012, 05:21 PM   #6185
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laugh all you want. That's how we enter 'will not fix' in JIRA when I come to this at work
The community has already laid out why a patch is needed for the game. Not only that they've threatened to black out BF3.

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Old Feb 24, 2012, 05:24 PM   #6186
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Community can say all they want. In the end it Dice deciding if they fix or not and if they have time and budget for it depending of the complexity. Notice every tweaks are relevant to the gameplay and ease to the player. Most of your list are not.
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Old Feb 24, 2012, 05:27 PM   #6187
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Community can say all they want. In the end it Dice deciding if they fix or not and if they have time and budget for it depending of the complexity. Notice every tweaks are relevant to the gameplay and ease to the player. Most of your list are not.
But that's not a real reply to my earlier post which started this back and forth dialogue. The issues are there. People have complained about them. They've released a patch note showing what's getting fixed. However, the command rose 2.0 mentioned before isn't there. So it appears to me they will indeed fix more then what's listed so far. Unless they announce otherwise.
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Old Feb 24, 2012, 08:22 PM   #6189
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I hate how this game is very anti noob.

I mean I'm new, I don't know the maps, I'm up against guys who put 1500 hours into this game and STILL they handicap me even more by given crap weapons and no perks.
You sound like a liberal crybaby socialist who just wants a special interest hand out. Man up and get in there.
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I agree about the unlock system in the Battlefield being bad

Higher ranked players shall be better only due to them being better, not by having unlocked better stuff
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Decided to try the M40A5 rifle. Seems to be a great choice. Has faster straight pull bolt than the L96 and works really well. The reload time is painful though if you run through the whole 10 round mag. Collected 133 kills and a bunch of unlocks with it just today.

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Old Feb 24, 2012, 11:25 PM   #6192
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1) Make an option for selecting mixed mode. I absolutely despise rush, I don't join conquest servers to be thrown into a rush game next round.

2) Pre-load maps. I don't need to stare at the end game score screen for 5 minuets and then stare at the load screen another 5 minutes after. Preload the next map while showing the score screen.
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They badly nerfed the buckshot and flechette damage.

buckshot -40% damage.
Flechette minus 25% damage.

Then they 'compensate' by making the cone of fire a tiny little smaller when you are 'zoomed' with a shotgun.

w...t...f are they thinking ?

Shotguns now suck at close range (easily outshot my most of the rifles) , and they still suck just as much at longer range.

I mean who the **** zooms with a shotgun. AND your pellets leave the barrel with half the potential pre-patch so there is NO advantage at medium range compared to pre-patch.

They're trying to make the shotguns more like rifles, except WAAYYYY suckier.
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Old Feb 25, 2012, 08:44 AM   #6194
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Old Feb 25, 2012, 01:46 PM   #6195
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the patch is live now?
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Old Feb 25, 2012, 06:41 PM   #6197
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I think it is, I had to do an update and now aiming is ****ed up anytime theres a slight bit of suppression. Anti suppression doesn't seem to have any effect

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Old Feb 25, 2012, 07:20 PM   #6198
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Are you noticing off shots when getting suppressed by team mates?
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Im almost positive that big update hasnt gone live. It's still being worked on.
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They badly nerfed the buckshot and flechette damage.

buckshot -40% damage.
Flechette minus 25% damage.

Then they 'compensate' by making the cone of fire a tiny little smaller when you are 'zoomed' with a shotgun.

w...t...f are they thinking ?

Shotguns now suck at close range (easily outshot my most of the rifles) , and they still suck just as much at longer range.

I mean who the **** zooms with a shotgun. AND your pellets leave the barrel with half the potential pre-patch so there is NO advantage at medium range compared to pre-patch.

They're trying to make the shotguns more like rifles, except WAAYYYY suckier.
What the fu?!?!?!? I love playing with the pump action Remington. It was never powerfull or amazing compared to a far more flexible rifle to begin with. And now they nerf it?!
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Im almost positive that big update hasnt gone live. It's still being worked on.
yea it's not out yet. they only released the patch notes because the bf3 community threw a tantrum
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Old Feb 26, 2012, 05:29 AM   #6202
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Thats what you get when you use Operation Metro as a testbench for weapons balance.
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lol this game has no recoil. playing css, bf2, and cod taught me to shoot in bursts. but not in bf3, I'm kicking ass with spray n pray, go figure
i can't talk about BF2, but you have been playing CSS and COD all wrong
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I use the AKS-74u mainly. Not that big of a disadvantage using non-unlocks. Just learn the maps and use cover.
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I use the AKS-74u mainly. Not that big of a disadvantage using non-unlocks. Just learn the maps and use cover.
+1. You can do pretty well with all the initial weapons in the game. All the weapons are balanced to the point that they aren't that much better, only different. For example, all the assualt rifles except the g3 have pretty much the same damage per bullet. The trade offs are rate of fire, recoil, reload speed, and mag size. The g3 has more damage, but at a huge trade off of smaller magazine size and huge recoil in full auto fire. I've got every weapon in this game and I still find myself using the M4, m16a3, IAR27, and mod 0 sniper rifle. The m16 family/AK family are all very well balanced vs any of the later guns in the game. Get some optics for them and go to town.

The biggest disadvantage for noobs is the lack of vehicle unlocks and not knowing the maps.
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Been waiting about 20 minutes to get into a game. Haven't played since I reinstalled windows. This is NUCKING FUTS.

**** it just gunna play F1 instead.
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Been waiting about 20 minutes to get into a game. Haven't played since I reinstalled windows. This is NUCKING FUTS.

**** it just gunna play F1 instead.
how big's the queue lol?
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how big's the queue lol?
Thats the thing there is no damn queue.

AWesome finally get into a server and at least 3 people are hacking the **** out of everyone. The **** happened to this game?

Ugh, **** this game man. Seriously. My sound is glitching every ten seconds with ear piercing screeching noises, I keep getting my ass kicked cause I suck now too. I'm just gunna play my wittle ole racing game.
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