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Old Jun 10, 2005, 05:38 PM   #1
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Old Jun 10, 2005, 06:14 PM   #2
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I really dont understand.. The only thing I can think is for the kids that dont actually have pets? Not meant to flame but the game looks stupid and boring... Im really confused on it.
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Probably something quick to make time fly. And yeah the reasons CurrentlyPissed listed. Surprised DS sales have surpassed the ps2 even for a moment, since they seem to buy ps2 all the time over there. Maybe it's even worth trying :|
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Yeah I really cant see the appeal of it I mean I have a ds but I am waiting for like mario kart and castlevainia not some puppy sim crap. Lol the retards at ign boards are crapping there pants about it for some reason.
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Old Jun 10, 2005, 07:05 PM   #6
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The DS had officially passed the PSP in sales for this calendar year 2 weeks ago. It's been steadily outselling the PSP by a nice, healthy margin since the week before Nintendogs came out. The gap widened to over a million units in Japan very recently as well.

DS is doing great over there, then again... they aren't dealing with a game drought like we are over here (although that officially ends Tuesday when Kirby comes out)
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well, it has all sorts of wacky weird games, wich japanese seem to love, and nintendogs is one of those :P
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Well, the PS1 didn't hit its stride until FFVII, and it never looked back. Let's see what happens when Sony releases more high profile games and/or accessories.

But I bet Nintendo is quite relieved that DS didn't turn into another virtual boy. And I bet it didn't hurt that they have tons of DS systems available. Funny how they can do that when they perceive a threat, yet systems are always rare otherwise.
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i've been told that very few japanese get to have pets, and so its sortof the ultimate japanese fantasy. That's why virtual pets caught on there more than in the US too.
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japanese chicks dig that game. Intead of appealing to teenage boy who have just started puberty, they when ahead an do the complete opposite. Super Ultra cute game for girls. Thats a market that sony and microsoft don't touch because they beleive that boys are main profit market. Nintendo totaly proves them wrong. Nintendo are geinuses.

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haha this thread title cant help but remind me of the full house episode in season 6 where uncle jessie's band has a #1 hit single....in japan.

seriously the nintendogs looks good to me.
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Nintendogs looks to be like a kick ass game!
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Nintendogs looks aswome!! And in japan they will have this game or Sony's Ropbots before they try real thing... and i belive they eat them??
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isnt the PS2 still selling well cuz they keep breaking?
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It's kinda like the Sims when you think about it.
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The DS had officially passed the PSP in sales for this calendar year 2 weeks ago. It's been steadily outselling the PSP by a nice, healthy margin since the week before Nintendogs came out. The gap widened to over a million units in Japan very recently as well.

DS is doing great over there, then again... they aren't dealing with a game drought like we are over here (although that officially ends Tuesday when Kirby comes out)
Kirby is a ass. Every time is see him float hes little pick ass down after kicking him out off the platform in Super Smash Bros i feel like throwing the console out the window.
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Kirby is a ass. Every time is see him float hes little pick ass down after kicking him out off the platform in Super Smash Bros i feel like throwing the console out the window.
Hahaha... well, you're entitled to your opinion, but somehow I think you're going to be in the minority on this one.



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I got Nintendogs last week, and been working on it since then - some of the Japanese is a little tough, although I'm managing to get around it. The status of the puppy is in text rather than a graphical state, once I finally translated the text I found my poor little pup was very thirsty and very hungry. Also, I think I've mucked up his training a little because I didn't quite understand the process, I can get him to sit, sneeze and give paws but when I tell him to lie down he just looks confused and little question marks pop up. I do miss the family dog (who I don't see that often these days) so I do like Nintendogs, they've done a fantastic job of modelling the puppies, their animations and behaviour are very accurate. Admittedly I do get funny looks when I'm talking to my pup and trying to get the disobediant little sod to do as I want, but I couldn't care less.

Also playing Warioware touched and Electroplankton, what I like about the DS is that it's something a bit different to the 'big' consoles, I'm not bothered about playing GTA/GT, Wipeout or whatever on the move.

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I got Nintendogs last week, and been working on it since then - some of the Japanese is a little tough, although I'm managing to get around it. The status of the puppy is in text rather than a graphical state, once I finally translated the text I found my poor little pup was very thirsty and very hungry. Also, I think I've mucked up his training a little because I didn't quite understand the process, I can get him to sit, sneeze and give paws but when I tell him to lie down he just looks confused and little question marks pop up. I do miss the family dog (who I don't see that often these days) so I do like Nintendogs, they've done a fantastic job of modelling the puppies, their animations and behaviour are very accurate. Admittedly I do get funny looks when I'm talking to my pup and trying to get the disobediant little sod to do as I want, but I couldn't care less.

Also playing Warioware touched and Electroplankton, what I like about the DS is that it's something a bit different to the 'big' consoles, I'm not bothered about playing GTA/GT, Wipeout or whatever on the move.

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Cool. I was thinking about attempting to tackle it myself, but decided against it due to translation reasons. Well, that and the fact that I'm ow in school fulltime and working full time and don't really have too much time for videogames...

The portable market is a totally different animal. It's one Nintendo has it's finger firmly on the pulse of. I've been really pleased with their performance there and haven't found too much to ***** about really. Things like Wario Ware and Electroplankton are ideal for handhelds.
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The portable market is a totally different animal. It's one Nintendo has it's finger firmly on the pulse of.
But for how much longer? This is the first time Nintendo has had competition like Sony in the handheld gaming market. Sony isn't going to be backing down any time soon. Especially seeing as how the PSP is selling well.
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I think nin is fairly safe in handhelds. The price of gameboys makes it a better buy to most people. Pretty soon if not already, gba-sp will be the price of a psp game.
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Cool. I was thinking about attempting to tackle it myself, but decided against it due to translation reasons. Well, that and the fact that I'm ow in school fulltime and working full time and don't really have too much time for videogames...

The portable market is a totally different animal. It's one Nintendo has it's finger firmly on the pulse of. I've been really pleased with their performance there and haven't found too much to ***** about really. Things like Wario Ware and Electroplankton are ideal for handhelds.
I am missing out a bit with the Japanese but with the help of Faqs I'm doing ok. Enjoying Warioware a lot more than I thought, I originally thought it's a good laugh but didn't expect anything longterm. What I like about the DS is that you can whip it open, have a laugh for five minutes then move on, I currently have to spend around four hours a day on the train, and a lot of that is waiting around - the DS is perfect for filling in those gaps while I wait for a delayed train or similar.

I really hope the portable market doesn't go Sony's way, they've made some fancy hardware for the PSP but nothing more.

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Pretty soon if not already, gba-sp will be the price of a psp game.
Wel yeah, look how long the GBA-SP has been on the market. Its old tech, of course its going to be a lot cheaper. Especially when you compare it to a multimedia device like the PSP (which can play movies, music, etc). Not to mention the fact that of all the handhelds PSP is the newest on the market. Its not even seeling in all the world markets yet (for example: Europe).

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I really hope the portable market doesn't keep going in Nintendo's way, they've made some fancy gimmicks for the DS but nothing more.
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But for how much longer? This is the first time Nintendo has had competition like Sony in the handheld gaming market. Sony isn't going to be backing down any time soon. Especially seeing as how the PSP is selling well.

well they had sega to deal with. and at that time sega was a very big company and a huge threat. i think nintendo is just fine in the handheld market. i think the majoriy of handheld gamers just want very simple games that they can jsut pick up and play for 5-10 minutes and not have to pay 200 or so bucks for the system. will sony keep with the handheld market..i dont know...its not selling as well as they thought it would..theres no question there. plus the e3 showing for the psp was pretty garbage. you would think it would have been a lot bigger. we'll probably find out next year if sony has started or is planning on starting development of psp2.
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well they had sega to deal with. and at that time sega was a very big company
Still nowhere near Sony thats for sure.

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Actually PSP games also provide simple games that can be played for 5-10 minutes. Perfect example is Dynasty Warriors for PSP. Instead of keeping the game's huge battlefield intact for the PSP release they decided to break it up into sections. Why? So you could play the game in small increments or for a 5-10 minute bus ride.

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Not selling as well as they thought it would? Oh okay so outselling the DS for months at a time is not considered selling as well as they thought it would.

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Actually if you think about it the PSP's price is easily justified. This is not a simple kids toy that just plays little 2D games. We're talking about a multimedia device that plays near PS2 quality games, full length DVD quality movies, music, displays photos, etc. Of course its going to cost a pretty penny. You get what you pay for.

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well i think sony and the majority of people thought the psp would have been on back orders for months..but that didnt come close to happening. dont get me wrong..im sure theyre happy with the way it has sold...but i think they believed it would have done a lot better.

and yes i know most of the psp games offer either save anywhere or very frequent save points, im talking about simple gameplay that you dont even care if you finish or how far in a game you get.

now the price..well i just cant see why anyone would want to use a psp as a movie player. the screen is still small to watch movies. the price of umd movies is way too expensive. maybe if ps3 would be able to play umd movies this would be less of an issue (which by the way would be a great idea). or of course have tvoutput on the psp itself. i really dont see nintendo in any trouble at all in the handheld department. they truly know exactly what theyre doing.
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well i think sony and the majority of people thought the psp would have been on back orders for months..but that didnt come close to happening.
I doubt Sony was truely thinking that if you ask me. I mean the whole reason there was so many PSP's on shelves is because of how many they shipped. I have to hand it to Sony, they deffinetly learned from the PS2 launch (where they only had a handful of PS2's to sell).

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well i just cant see why anyone would want to use a psp as a movie player. the screen is still small to watch movies.
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Wel yeah, look how long the GBA-SP has been on the market. Its old tech, of course its going to be a lot cheaper. Especially when you compare it to a multimedia device like the PSP (which can play movies, music, etc). Not to mention the fact that of all the handhelds PSP is the newest on the market. Its not even seeling in all the world markets yet (for example: Europe).



I really hope the portable market doesn't keep going in Nintendo's way, they've made some fancy gimmicks for the DS but nothing more.
You make them as gimmicks, that's your opinion and nothing more - I'll take original and creative gimmicks over PS2 rehashes any day.

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You make them as gimmicks, that's your opinion and nothing more - I'll take original and creative gimmicks over PS2 rehashes any day.

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