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Old May 9, 2017, 10:18 PM   #1
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So Piranha Bytes is working on their next game, it is a new IP called Elex. Set to release sometime this year.

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Those who survived are now trapped in a battle to survive, a struggle to decide the fate of a planet. At the center of this fight is the element “Elex”. A precious, limited resource that arrived with the meteor, Elex can power machines, open the door to magic, or re-sculpt life into new, different forms.

But which of these choices should be the future of Magalan? Can technology or magic save this world? Or will this new power destroy all those left alive amongst the ruins?
There are 4 preview gameplay videos that are 40 minutes each, some with English translations if you do not know German.









After watching these, this game feels like a spiritual successor to Gothic. Gothic was one of the best Open World RPGs out there.

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This game looks like it could easily be the best open world RPG since Witcher 3, and could be a whole lot better than Witcher 3.

If you liked Witcher 3, this game might be something you will like as well.

Yes, I am really excited for the game.
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only because there have not been many since witcher 3. Definitely going to be worth checking out, but while i loved the first three gothic games, and even gothic four was pretty goode, none of them compare to the witcher in anything but maybe their combat/rpg mechanics.
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The mechanics in Gothics were a bit clumsy always IMO, but the worlds were good. I liked especially G2, and G3 was quite good also after it got some thousands of patches. I tried replaying the first Gothic last winter, but it's not aged very well.
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This game looks like it could easily be the best open world RPG since Witcher 3, and could be a whole lot better than Witcher 3.

If you liked Witcher 3, this game might be something you will like as well.

Yes, I am really excited for the game.
Combat in this game looks awful.
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The mechanics in Gothics were a bit clumsy always IMO, but the worlds were good. I liked especially G2, and G3 was quite good also after it got some thousands of patches. I tried replaying the first Gothic last winter, but it's not aged very well.
I have been replaying Gothic recently, and there is a DX11 mod for the game and makes the game look better and use some of the DX11 features.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfil.../?id=484664831

I highly recommend it. They did the same thing for Gothic 2 as well.

I started to play Gothic 1 again before I saw the Elex gameplay videos, and while watching that I could see so much of Gothic in that game.
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Combat in this game looks awful.
Looks good to me. Nothing flashy like it was in Witcher 3 or other 3rd person combat games, but looks more appropriate for an RPG /shrug
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Combat in this game looks awful.
Combat in these games are always pretty rough, but it's better than it looks. Much better than it looks.
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I have been replaying Gothic recently, and there is a DX11 mod for the game and makes the game look better and use some of the DX11 features.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfil.../?id=484664831

I highly recommend it. They did the same thing for Gothic 2 as well.

I started to play Gothic 1 again before I saw the Elex gameplay videos, and while watching that I could see so much of Gothic in that game.
I don't mind the original graphics. The controls are what made me quit.
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I liked all of Piranha Byte games, which includes Gothic 1 - 3, Risen 1 - 3, so this one I expect will be fantastic as well.

IMO PB games have the best RPG open worlds. Gothic 3 is proof of this, despite its drawbacks. I think the only game that came close was Witcher 3.
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I liked all of Piranha Byte games, which includes Gothic 1 - 3, Risen 1 - 3, so this one I expect will be fantastic as well.

IMO PB games have the best RPG open worlds. Gothic 3 is proof of this, despite its drawbacks. I think the only game that came close was Witcher 3.
G3 world is indeed very good. What I've managed to play of the new Zelda surpasses it so far, though. I've only played Witcher 3 for about 10 minutes, so can't compare to it.
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I liked all of Piranha Byte games, which includes Gothic 1 - 3, Risen 1 - 3, so this one I expect will be fantastic as well.

IMO PB games have the best RPG open worlds. Gothic 3 is proof of this, despite its drawbacks. I think the only game that came close was Witcher 3.
Me too. I LOVED the Risen games. 2 and 3 are in my top 10. Unfortunately many people won't play them due to mediocre reviews.
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Man, does it look awful after horizon zero dawn.
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IMO PB games have the best RPG open worlds. Gothic 3 is proof of this, despite its drawbacks. I think the only game that came close was Witcher 3.
Same for me. There is something about PB games that no other developer can replicate. They are janky, little rough, but boy are they fun.

Witcher 3 is on another level in terms of production values, but in terms of gameplay PB games are my favotite.
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meh, that is just graphics, the gameplay is more important.
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Looks fairly interesting...combat (what little I saw) didn't look too terrible, little monsters getting blown a few feet in the air looked entertaining....maybe...
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I'm hyped. I should install and finish Risen 3 before this though.
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I'm hyped. I should install and finish Risen 3 before this though.
Risen 3 is an interesting game.

At first I didn't like the new character (Risen 1 and 2 had the same protagonist). But this new fella has the funniest one liners and comments, like he just don't gaf . Risen 3 turned out to be one of the better games in the series.

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I know, i love the dialogue in the games. Everyone is such an asshole. I remember in Risen 2, some pirate guy referred to the big boss as " That bitch Mara". Was pretty funny to me, came out of nowhere.
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the thing i loved about gothic 1+2 was that it was a hand crafted open world. No level scaling, lots of scripted encounters, great dialouge and story. That euro jank combat grew on you after a while too.
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I loved Gothic 1 and 2, however I have to part with others about later games. Gothic 3 started out good, but the storyline was ultimately too drawn out and the horrendous combat grew really irritating by the end of the game (I didn't think the combat in the first two was actually bad). Risen was good for the first half, and combat was much improved, but then the story just disappeared for the second half of the game.

So, really from Gothic 3 onward I have been disappointed by PB. I hope they manage to get back to basics and create a game that's truly good from start to finish. The first two Gothics are true master pieces, but the later games fell short, IMO.
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I loved Gothic 1 and 2, however I have to part with others about later games. Gothic 3 started out good, but the storyline was ultimately too drawn out and the horrendous combat grew really irritating by the end of the game (I didn't think the combat in the first two was actually bad). Risen was good for the first half, and combat was much improved, but then the story just disappeared for the second half of the game.

So, really from Gothic 3 onward I have been disappointed by PB. I hope they manage to get back to basics and create a game that's truly good from start to finish. The first two Gothics are true master pieces, but the later games fell short, IMO.
I agree with everything you said there.

Gothic 3 does have the community patch, which Pirahna Bytes took part in, that apparently fixes most of the problems with the game. If you have the Steam version you can put Gothic 3 into beta mode and it will update your game to the community patch version, otherwise the patch is available on the internet.

I was very disappointed in Gothic 3 and I never got far into it, like 10 hours. I am currently playing Gothic 1, then I'll head to Gothic 2, and after that I will do Gothic 3 with community patch and hopefully it is much improved.

I have Risen 1, but something about that game never really grabbed me for some reason, even from the start, i really cannot put my finger on it as to why. So I didn't get far into that game either.

But with Elex, just watching the gameplay videos which is about 3 hours starting at the beginning of the game, it already grabbed me like Gothic 1 did and so much of it reminded me of Gothic. So I have high hopes this game is them going back to what made Gothic 1 and 2 so great.
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Disagree, Risen 1 is an excellent game, and I liked it better than Gothic. It has the best combat of the PB games too.

And the second half "problem" where its mostly dungeon crawling, is present in both Gothic 1 and 2, yet people always blame Risen only.

For me though, i like hacking and slashing, and having done lots of questing and getting lots of gear, its good to go on some rampage towards end game.
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Old May 11, 2017, 09:05 PM   #26
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Disagree, Risen 1 is an excellent game, and I liked it better than Gothic. It has the best combat of the PB games too.

And the second half "problem" where its mostly dungeon crawling, is present in both Gothic 1 and 2, yet people always blame Risen only.

For me though, i like hacking and slashing, and having done lots of questing and getting lots of gear, its good to go on some rampage towards end game.
I think for me when it came to the feeling of Risen 1 and comparing it to the feeling of Gothic 1 it was really different.

This article talks about what made Gothic 1 different than other games of its time, and imo that didn't ring true with Risen 1, it didn't feel like it had a society in the same magnitude of Gothic 1.

Here is the article
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/201...retrospective/

I am hoping Elex will be bringing that level of society back with improvements.
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I loved Gothic 1 and 2, however I have to part with others about later games. Gothic 3 started out good, but the storyline was ultimately too drawn out and the horrendous combat grew really irritating by the end of the game (I didn't think the combat in the first two was actually bad). Risen was good for the first half, and combat was much improved, but then the story just disappeared for the second half of the game.

So, really from Gothic 3 onward I have been disappointed by PB. I hope they manage to get back to basics and create a game that's truly good from start to finish. The first two Gothics are true master pieces, but the later games fell short, IMO.
Same here. Risen was far more polished in terms of mechanics and build quality but never quite captured the feeling of the Gothic 1/2. Maybe I got old and jaded *shrugs*.

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You know, im playing risen 3 right now, and i cant help but feel, with the changes made over the years, that it simply would have been better off as a first person game like elder scrolls. Not just a fp camera in the current game, but built the same way with a fp camera as the basis.
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You know, im playing risen 3 right now, and i cant help but feel, with the changes made over the years, that it simply would have been better off as a first person game like elder scrolls. Not just a fp camera in the current game, but built the same way with a fp camera as the basis.
I never played Risen 3, so can you explain why it would have been better in FP?

I know I couldn't imagine Gothic 1 and 2 in FP, and felt they are better as third person.
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Same here. Risen was far more polished in terms of mechanics and build quality but never quite captured the feeling of the Gothic 1/2. Maybe I got old and jaded *shrugs*.

edit : Keeping fingers crossed as Sci-Fi space opera is the cats ass!
I think one thing missing from Risen was the character connections. I still remember my "friends" from Gothic 1 and 2. I can't remember pretty much anyone from Risen. It's still a decent game though, and did capture some of the feeling of Gothic, it just wasn't quite as good.
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