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I'm actually an appletard and I take offense but cannot resist the urge to vote. 1 3.33%
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Old Mar 2, 2011, 05:59 PM   #1
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I'm happy with my original. I don't see enough changes to warrant buying a new one, I have no use for cameras. If it had a usb or sd slot, I'd strongly consider the upgrade.
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You know, there's a pretty awesome subforum just for this. I bought a Xoom to make iPad owners jelly

No, not really I bought a Xoom because it's a badass product
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Dang. I hadn't thought of the Xoom. Oh yes I did and I don't want to be on Verizon.
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You know, there's a pretty awesome subforum just for this. I bought a Xoom to make iPad owners jelly

No, not really I bought a Xoom because it's a badass product
iPad 2 just pwnd your Xoom.
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iPad 2 just pwnd your Xoom.
With it's same resolution and lack of ports as the original?

2 cameras mean that much to you huh, mang?
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If the god damn thing actually had a USB port, I would consider upgrading.
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With it's same resolution and lack of ports as the original?

2 cameras mean that much to you huh, mang?
What's with you guys and the need for ports? Oh, it doesn't have a port. OMG!

2 cameras, dual cpu's, keep the iPad 2 on par and probably faster than the Xoom. Plus more apps, more functionality, support, user base, and all around better user experience. So it matches the Xoom for a whole lot less. iPad pricing can't be matched.
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iPad 2 just pwnd your Xoom.
16:10 10.1" 1280x800 screen just owned iPad 2. This cannot be argued. 4:3 sucks. The only thing on the iPad 2 that MIGHT own the Xoom is the GPU, and there's really no telling since 'up to 9x performance' tells me nothing and the Xoom is already stellar in the 3D realm, pushing more pixels no less. Oh and the fact the Xoom is already rooted, already overclocked, yeah iPad 2 didn't own jack I'm at 1.5ghz on my Xoom and my battery life is STILL phenomenal. Yeah, give me a Xoom any day over your closed ecosystem

Also, a 'whole lot less?' In what world do you live in? The Xoom is priced competitively with the same tier iPad

Oh yeah and I don't have to spend $40 bucks to have HDMI out with some crapass dongle Hey and how bout those push notifications? Oh wait, the Xoom doesn't have to put up with that crap.

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16:10 10.1" 1280x800 screen just owned iPad 2. This cannot be argued. 4:3 sucks.
I wonder how the viewing angles and anti-glare coatings compare between these two devices. Isn't IPS tech superior to what is in the Xoom?

You can have the prettiest, high-res screen in the world, but if you have to look at it dead-on with no ambient light in the room, it is next to worthless.
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16:10 10.1" 1280x800 screen just owned iPad 2. This cannot be argued. 4:3 sucks. The only thing on the iPad 2 that MIGHT own the Xoom is the GPU, and there's really no telling since 'up to 9x performance' tells me nothing and the Xoom is already stellar in the 3D realm, pushing more pixels no less. Oh and the fact the Xoom is already rooted, already overclocked, yeah iPad 2 didn't own jack I'm at 1.5ghz on my Xoom and my battery life is STILL phenomenal. Yeah, give me a Xoom any day over your closed ecosystem

Also, a 'whole lot less?' In what world do you live in? The Xoom is priced competitively with the same tier iPad

Oh yeah and I don't have to spend $40 bucks to have HDMI out with some crapass dongle Hey and how bout those push notifications? Oh wait, the Xoom doesn't have to put up with that crap.
What are you smoking? There are more iPad models at various prices, outpricing the competitors. The Tab is a joke. Xoom is too expensive compared to the comparable iPad (especially when you factor in the lack of apps).

So, let me see you be productive on your Xoom:

Pages
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I guess you can't. That's why you are busy doing nonsense like rooting and overclocking to give you something to do on it.
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iPad 2 just pwnd your Xoom.
The iPad 2 isn't much different than the iPad... 33% thinner and a couple ounces or so lighter. The CPU is now dual-core I believe, but it's an upgrade and not a revolution to the format by any means.

Things still missing:

A USB port

A card reader for pictures

A price reduction for the line


My thoughts, if you want a tablet the iPad 2 is a great choice (especially the cheapo 16gb non-contract) but it is no longer your only choice or even the best choice depending on what you want. IMO if you're blowing $600+ the Xoom is a better wireless-G option since ATT sucks compared to Verizon... and it's a fully finctional and more open Android OS.


The smart move? Wait a few months for summer when everybody and their sister will come out with a nice honeycomb tablet, forcing price drops in this current 2 horse race.
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The iPad 2 isn't much different than the iPad... 33% thinner and a couple ounces or so lighter. The CPU is now dual-core I believe, but it's an upgrade and not a revolution to the format by any means.

Things still missing:

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A card reader for pictures

A price reduction for the line


My thoughts, if you want a tablet the iPad 2 is a great choice (especially the cheapo 16gb non-contract) but it is no longer your only choice or even the best choice depending on what you want. IMO if you're blowing $600+ the Xoom is a better wireless-G option since ATT sucks compared to Verizon... and it's a fully finctional and more open Android OS.


The smart move? Wait a few months for summer when everybody and their sister will come out with a nice honeycomb tablet, forcing price drops in this current 2 horse race.
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I'm happy with my original. I don't see enough changes to warrant buying a new one, I have no use for cameras.


If it had a higher rez screen, I'd buy it.
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You'd buy it for just a higher rez screen? Seriously??? That's all you want to have? I want to have more than just a higher rez screen.
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Seriously, what was apple thinking sticking with the 1024x768 screen? The iPhone 4 Retina screen beats it hands down in brightness+pixel density. Going to wait for the next refresh thank you very much.
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See, everyone (and your mama) are turning into geeks nowadays. It's apparently the chic thing.
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who cares about the iPad2? the resolution is the same, only 512MB of ram, and it still can't multi-task as good as Android-based products
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who cares about the iPad2? the resolution is the same, only 512MB of ram, and it still can't multi-task as good as Android-based products
No confirmation on ram yet. But you're right about the multitasking, iOS's half-assed backgrounding doesn't even come close to the full multitasking on the Xoom.
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I still don't see why anyone would need such a device.
Mine replaced my phone and my laptop. I have a dumbphone for calling but I use my tablet for so much now.
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Where are these choices? Not looking to start a fight, really just suggesting expanding the poll. There was no real choice for "other" or "no"


Android Tablet only for me

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No thanks, I don't dig Apple iOS

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Ah what the hell, the appletard option was looking lonely
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Funny story today with my friend who works at an Apple store.

I asked about the new iPads, how they are going to sell like hot cakes. He says he doesn't think so. Everyone who wanted one got one.

One thing he did tell me was funny though. Actually quite funny. He says people come in asking him to sell it to them. So, naturally he's like 'ok let's go check out'. He said they want him to sell it to them. I look at him and say 'you mean they actually want you to give them a reason to buy it?' He's like 'yup'.

I laughed. I can't imagine how many people walk through the door not knowing what they can use it for and just buy it. I thought it was funny. Dunno if people just think Apple makes stuff that is so good you just have to have it regardless of what it is, or that people really do get suckered into their commercials, or that people actually need this device.

Not sure if tablets are socially acceptable still either. Saw a guy use one while he was at lunch on a Sunday with his wife at Panera. His wife was glued to her iPhone while he was doing god knows what on that thing.

I have a 7" Tab and I use it a lot at home, but I'd never be caught dead with it in public. I love gadgets and stuff, but if I think it's awkward to use it out in public, I can only imagine what others think.

I think the tablet market is still very young, and the best has yet to come despite the fact that Apple has the market right now. Look at the latest smartphone subscribers list. I'd like to include others in this, but Android devices, despite the 'fragmentation' everyone likes to bitch about, has surpassed iOS. Blame buy one get one, blame OEM's for putting out many devices. Fact of the matter, OEM's were here prior to iPhone's and they put out just as many devices before as they do now. People seem to be just using that like a scapegoat.

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Plenty of peeps use it here as e-readers, browsers, etc. I've used my tablet at a Starbucks, even got compliments on it. Not sure why it's socially unacceptable.
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I didn't say they were unacceptable. I can understand if you go out alone to starbucks and want to chill with a drink and surf the net. But to be out to lunch with your SO just didn't look right.
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Occasionally me and the SO will go out to eat and both pull out our phones to check email/texts or something on wikipedia. I've surfed rage when she was talking and I was bored as well. Who cares?
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