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Old Aug 29, 2019, 12:16 PM   #1
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Default AMD Overtakes Nvidia in Overall GPU Shipments for the First Time in Five Years

This is PC only and doesnt include console sales. Makes it interesting in that Nvidia is claiming all time highs in sales tho thats probably profit per sale. And AMD doesnt have much laptop discrete presence tho much more apu presence. Also doesnt mean AMD is making more $ than Nvidia but still.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/am...ort,40266.html

Can only wonder when AMD has a proper all new gpu product lineup next year how things will shape up.



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Jon Peddie Research has released its Q2 2019 GPU market results, and it's official: AMD shipped more graphics unit than Nvidia for the first time in five years, thanks to AMD shipping almost 9.85% more GPUs than in Q1 (by comparison, Nvidia sold about the same). The market share data represents cumulative shipments of all types of desktop PC graphics units, including those present in processors, which is an area that Nvidia doesn't have a significant market presence.
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Old Aug 29, 2019, 04:09 PM   #2
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So, is it shipment or sales? There is a difference. You can ship all the products you want to a retail store, but if it doesn't sell.....


The article seems to want to treat it one and the same.
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Most shipments would be to oem's so def sales.
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since intel is on top

Nvidia is being hurt by not having a APU and the sky high RTX prices

wonder if they count intel's igpu and AMD's APU's even if not used like my 3770k system that almost always had two NV gpu's in it


………

what will happen if AMD brings out a card without ray tracing that kills the RTX 3080 ti in non RT games
without half the chip devoted to RT and Tensor cores

I bet there would be a straight GTX card so fast to make your head spin
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since intel is on top

Nvidia is being hurt by not having a APU and the sky high RTX prices

wonder if they count intel's igpu and AMD's APU's even if not used like my 3770k system that almost always had two NV gpu's in it


………

what will happen if AMD brings out a card without ray tracing that kills the RTX 3080 ti in non RT games
without half the chip devoted to RT and Tensor cores

I bet there would be a straight GTX card so fast to make your head spin
As much as I'd like to see that happen it's looking doubtful.
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As much as I'd like to see that happen it's looking doubtful.
well after Ryzen I won't count them out ever

and they got the cash to do it now

they say navi 23 maybe 2.3x faster than a rx5700 xt but all just rumors for now
but the 5700 xt is a fairly small chip
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https://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphi...rushing-nvidia

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AMD shipped 9.85 percent more GPUs compared to the previous quarter, Nvidia’s shipment numbers remained mostly flat, and Intel shipped 1.44 percent fewer GPUs.

The overall GPU market for the PC was up 9.25 percent compared to the previous quarter and witnessed a gain of almost 3.1 percent year-on-year.

Discrete graphics card shipments dropped by 16.6 percent compared to Q1, and a hefty 39.7 percent year-on-year, a slump that’s most likely still tied in with the implosion of the market for crypto-mining GPUs, which is seemingly continuing to make its effects felt at least to some extent as we progress through 2019.


However, while that was miserable AMD saw a big gain in market share in the discrete market.

AMD moved up to a 32.1% share of the discrete GPU market, which represents a big upward swing of nearly 10% – AMD’s share was 22.7% last quarter. Nvidia, of course, owns the rest of the market, meaning it’s currently on 67.9%.

Nvidia’s discrete market share was a colossal 81.2% last year according to Jon Peddie. So there has been quite a shift towards AMD throughout.

Competitive APUs may have helped AMD in the laptop market. As for discrete, perhaps bargain-basement graphics cards (like the RX 570, for example, which has seen some tempting deals in recent times) are helping drive some of this momentum.

What must be putting the fear of god into Nvidia is that AMD’s discrete success hasn’t been driven by Navi, as those GPUs weren’t on sale in the timeframe of Jon Peddie’s Q2 report.
Navi seems to be selling well so the next report should be interesting.
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As much as I'd like to see that happen it's looking doubtful.
I don't know. It seems like Nvidia have sort of hamstrung themselves by having so much of the die devoted the ray tracing and tensor cores.

There's no reason a larger Navi couldn't be much faster. If they'd had the money in earlier years it seems like they could have had a big version of Navi come out not long after the current midrange version. So, with more money now flowing it, I think that next gen we're going to see AMD back in competition.

That being said, it seems like AMD and Nvidia are currently a bit off-cycle with one another, so full competition might not come back until the Nvidia 4000 series.
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