Intel 12x00 series Alder lake - Page 15

**acroig** · Dec 17, 2021, 08:51 PM

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pax · Dec 17, 2021, 09:27 PM

Alder lake is a good improvement but it probably wont take much for AMD to match it or even pass it slightly. Considering the platform AL is on, 40% increased pinout on the cpu, ddr5, pcie5... it should have an unbeatable lead but R5k gives it a run for its money at times.

Then we get AM5 where the AMD platform catches up. If AM5 only notches things up 10-15% it'll be a big disappointment.

KAC · Dec 17, 2021, 09:58 PM

Frickin hate people posting links without context or short description. Same with YouTube videos.

Megaman · Dec 18, 2021, 05:01 AM

A performance test for 41 games using 12900K DDR5 6000 CL 36 over DDR 4 3600 CL14

Averaging:

3% perf increase at 1080p for DDR 5

2% at 1440p for DDR 5

1% at 4K for DDR 5

A few games netted 20% increase but mostly they were identical and also some were in the negatives.

Them prices are worth it for DDR5

Also hope KAC is happy with the run down plus link to video.

badsykes · Dec 18, 2021, 07:12 AM

KAC · Dec 18, 2021, 07:16 AM

Thanks Megagay!

**acroig** · Dec 18, 2021, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KAC

Frickin hate people posting links without context or short description. Same with YouTube videos.

Cry me a river. When I post you're supposed to click it.

badsykes · Dec 18, 2021, 07:51 AM

KAC · Dec 18, 2021, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acroig

Cry me a river. When I post you're supposed to click it.

No

**acroig** · Dec 18, 2021, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KAC

No

ElBerryKM13 · Dec 18, 2021, 03:46 PM

What's with all these post just posting a link with no title or desciption? Do you really want me to click on it? Geez talk about being lazy posters.

Megaman · Dec 18, 2021, 03:54 PM

Whilst I’m at work trying to sneak in new gossip,using a phone, in the hot Aussie glaring sun for you guys, the least you can do is say thanks instead of bitching cos you gotta click a link by reputable Rage3d members with over 9k posts.

**acroig** · Dec 18, 2021, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElBerryKM13

What's with all these post just posting a link with no title or desciption? Do you really want me to click on it? Geez talk about being lazy posters.

You don't have to click on it if you don't want to. Best I wanna do when I see something interesting on my phone.

Megaman · Dec 24, 2021, 06:43 AM

Any ideas what temps the 12700k typically gets in gaming/CPU stress testing? I hit 83 degrees on one core playing Control, Cinbebench test for 5 minutes I get high 70s across all cores with the exception of core 5 hitting 83.

**Nunz** · Dec 24, 2021, 06:48 AM

You need to list the power and voltage you're running to know what is and isn't good. Are you using an LGA1700 mounting kit? Ambient temp? Too many factors to judge off of just the temps alone.

Megaman · Dec 24, 2021, 06:55 AM

I'm running stock everything. Ambient temp, around the low 20 degrees but I can't be accurate. Core volts are at 1.163 with core speed at 4.5 Ghz. Temps are consistently hovering around mid 70s, high 60s right now during testing but peak temps manage to hit low 80s.

Only the retro fit stands are in use. No LGA1700 bracket. Trying to get a rough idea where this setup is at.

Looking at others responses they too appear to be running low to mid 80s in Cinebench R23 everything stock. Just found a post now so perhaps that's about ball park.

**Nunz** · Dec 24, 2021, 07:03 AM

What are you using to read temps/voltage? Use HWINFO64 if you aren't.

Temps seem ok. Still pretty high for 1.163v but it depends on the wattage as I said. You can see all of that in hwinfo.

I hit mid 70s at 1.3v under load in CB23 pulling around 230watts if I remember correctly, but that's on a custom loop with a HKIV w/ 1200 mounting kit. Once I get the 1700 kit installed it'll likely be mid-high 60s.

Megaman · Dec 24, 2021, 07:14 AM

I’m using core temp.

Watching HWinfo, max temps so far are in the low to high 70s. I’m averaging 69 across 6 core, averaging 72 on core 5. Seems Core Temp is showing slightly higher temps on some cores. I think I might just bin that app.

What wattage setting shall I look at for wattage info? CPU package power is peaking at 150w

Megaman · Dec 24, 2021, 07:18 AM

Core 5 on core temp shows 86 degrees peak. HWinfo shows 79. All others are low/mid 70s in HWinfo. These numbers look better.

Im not looking at E cores.

I’m now seeing Vcore at 1.305 and 4.9 boost. Temps have not hit 80s. Looks like the H150i is doing well.

My results this 5 minute run

Megaman · Dec 24, 2021, 07:24 AM

Whoops....looks like these results also factor in Control running in the background as I forgot I ALT tabbed

**Nunz** · Dec 24, 2021, 07:29 AM

Yeah don't use anything except HWINFO64. All the other apps are all over the place. For power readings, use CPU Package Power.

Looks like you have stock Intel limits in place (150w max) which is good. A lot of boards will disable those limits automatically and cause temp issues for the AIO users etc.

Megaman · Dec 24, 2021, 07:34 AM

Sweet. Looks the goods then. Just read over my previous posts, auto correct is such a piece a ****. Had to fix up the mumbles.

demo · Dec 24, 2021, 02:14 PM

10c is quite a large variance between core 5 and core 1. I'd be inclined to re-mount the AIO.

Megaman · Dec 24, 2021, 04:44 PM

Yeah I don't like the gap between those temps. Really cbfed re-doing the thermal paste on this but I'm sure I'll cave soon.

Cinebench run this morning. For increased street cred points, I managed a 21255 score

demo · Dec 24, 2021, 05:05 PM

I'd re-mount and unlock power limits, should be fine.

Besides that, how's your new system? Must be a decent upgrade over 8700k/GTX1080

Megaman · Dec 24, 2021, 05:09 PM

Yeah the system is great. Everything just runs smooth. I can't complain.

demo · Dec 24, 2021, 05:10 PM

Greasy · Dec 24, 2021, 06:15 PM

I'm so tempted to upgrade, but I'm waiting for the refresh, and hopefully better DDR5 availability. Those scores are awesome man! Enjoy.

Megaman · Dec 25, 2021, 10:05 PM

Turned off power limits, reaching 186 watts now. Cinebench R23 again, one core maxed out at 81 degrees, the others were low/mid/high 70s.

Managed a 22412 score at stock CPU/Memory speeds (XMP 2). Not bad.

KAC · Dec 25, 2021, 11:14 PM

That’s a tight score. Almost like my 5900X if I remember correctly.

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pax Rage3D Spammer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Grand Falls, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 30,179	Alder lake is a good improvement but it probably wont take much for AMD to match it or even pass it slightly. Considering the platform AL is on, 40% increased pinout on the cpu, ddr5, pcie5... it should have an unbeatable lead but R5k gives it a run for its money at times. Then we get AM5 where the AMD platform catches up. If AM5 only notches things up 10-15% it'll be a big disappointment. __________________

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Dec 17, 2021, 09:58 PM	#423
KAC All ur gays r belong 2 me Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lahore Posts: 66,809	Frickin hate people posting links without context or short description. Same with YouTube videos.

Dec 18, 2021, 05:01 AM	#424
Megaman Packing heat! Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Down Under Posts: 9,629	A performance test for 41 games using 12900K DDR5 6000 CL 36 over DDR 4 3600 CL14 Averaging: 3% perf increase at 1080p for DDR 5 2% at 1440p for DDR 5 1% at 4K for DDR 5 A few games netted 20% increase but mostly they were identical and also some were in the negatives. Them prices are worth it for DDR5 Also hope KAC is happy with the run down plus link to video. Last edited by Megaman : Dec 18, 2021 at 05:24 AM.

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Dec 18, 2021, 07:16 AM	#426
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Dec 18, 2021, 03:46 PM	#431
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Dec 18, 2021, 03:54 PM	#432
Megaman Packing heat! Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Down Under Posts: 9,629	Whilst I’m at work trying to sneak in new gossip,using a phone, in the hot Aussie glaring sun for you guys, the least you can do is say thanks instead of bitching cos you gotta click a link by reputable Rage3d members with over 9k posts.

Dec 24, 2021, 06:43 AM	#434
Megaman Packing heat! Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Down Under Posts: 9,629	Any ideas what temps the 12700k typically gets in gaming/CPU stress testing? I hit 83 degrees on one core playing Control, Cinbebench test for 5 minutes I get high 70s across all cores with the exception of core 5 hitting 83.

Dec 24, 2021, 06:55 AM	#436
Megaman Packing heat! Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Down Under Posts: 9,629	I'm running stock everything. Ambient temp, around the low 20 degrees but I can't be accurate. Core volts are at 1.163 with core speed at 4.5 Ghz. Temps are consistently hovering around mid 70s, high 60s right now during testing but peak temps manage to hit low 80s. Only the retro fit stands are in use. No LGA1700 bracket. Trying to get a rough idea where this setup is at. Looking at others responses they too appear to be running low to mid 80s in Cinebench R23 everything stock. Just found a post now so perhaps that's about ball park.

Dec 24, 2021, 07:14 AM	#438
Megaman Packing heat! Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Down Under Posts: 9,629	I’m using core temp. Watching HWinfo, max temps so far are in the low to high 70s. I’m averaging 69 across 6 core, averaging 72 on core 5. Seems Core Temp is showing slightly higher temps on some cores. I think I might just bin that app. What wattage setting shall I look at for wattage info? CPU package power is peaking at 150w Last edited by Megaman : Dec 24, 2021 at 07:33 AM.

Dec 24, 2021, 07:18 AM	#439
Megaman Packing heat! Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Down Under Posts: 9,629	Core 5 on core temp shows 86 degrees peak. HWinfo shows 79. All others are low/mid 70s in HWinfo. These numbers look better. Im not looking at E cores. I’m now seeing Vcore at 1.305 and 4.9 boost. Temps have not hit 80s. Looks like the H150i is doing well. My results this 5 minute run Last edited by Megaman : Dec 24, 2021 at 07:24 AM.

Dec 24, 2021, 07:24 AM	#440
Megaman Packing heat! Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Down Under Posts: 9,629	Whoops....looks like these results also factor in Control running in the background as I forgot I ALT tabbed

Dec 24, 2021, 07:34 AM	#442
Megaman Packing heat! Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Down Under Posts: 9,629	Sweet. Looks the goods then. Just read over my previous posts, auto correct is such a piece a ****. Had to fix up the mumbles.

Dec 24, 2021, 02:14 PM	#443
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Dec 24, 2021, 04:44 PM	#444
Megaman Packing heat! Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Down Under Posts: 9,629	Yeah I don't like the gap between those temps. Really cbfed re-doing the thermal paste on this but I'm sure I'll cave soon. Cinebench run this morning. For increased street cred points, I managed a 21255 score

Dec 24, 2021, 05:05 PM	#445
demo space cadet Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 28,123	I'd re-mount and unlock power limits, should be fine. Besides that, how's your new system? Must be a decent upgrade over 8700k/GTX1080 __________________ ____________________

Dec 24, 2021, 05:09 PM	#446
Megaman Packing heat! Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Down Under Posts: 9,629	Yeah the system is great. Everything just runs smooth. I can't complain.

Dec 24, 2021, 05:10 PM	#447
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Dec 24, 2021, 06:15 PM	#448
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Dec 25, 2021, 10:05 PM	#449
Megaman Packing heat! Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Down Under Posts: 9,629	Turned off power limits, reaching 186 watts now. Cinebench R23 again, one core maxed out at 81 degrees, the others were low/mid/high 70s. Managed a 22412 score at stock CPU/Memory speeds (XMP 2). Not bad.

Dec 25, 2021, 11:14 PM	#450
KAC All ur gays r belong 2 me Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lahore Posts: 66,809	That’s a tight score. Almost like my 5900X if I remember correctly.

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