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Old Jul 3, 2020, 08:31 AM   #151
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There was also the Evergreen series (Radeon HD 5xxx) which was a clear win for AMD (also the last ATI branded Radeons) I think there might have been one more card family after that which also was a clear win before the R9 290
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The 7970 had performance leadership when launched. I believe the reasoning for the branding change to Amd Radeon from Ati Radeon was in mid 2010 Amd did take overall discrete gpu share away from Nvidia.
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This is all speculation but it sounds like he has some inside contacts.

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The big current rumor about navi2x is a 4gb ddr ram chip on the die as a mega cache. Its why they arent showing the PS5 die pict which apparently has it on top of its super BW to the SSD. Besides that I suppose it could be fastest at fps in pure raster. Wouldnt be too surprising if its RT was slightly slower than 3080ti being that its AMD's first try at raytracing.
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Yea it might come down to Nvidia being substantially faster at raytracing and maybe slightly slower in raster.
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Wow hope that's true. Even if a little slower at ray tracing but dominating in raster, I'll pick raster for my back log and MP titles I play.
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Wow hope that's true. Even if a little slower at ray tracing but dominating in raster, I'll pick raster for my back log and MP titles I play.
Honestly, I'd just as soon chop the RTX unit off my 2080 Ti entirely if it gave me 10% more performance. There are so few RTX games anyway, that I could easily just wait 2 more years to play any of them.
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I totally agree, it's a total waste of die space and resources ATM, which also translates into cost. I would be perfectly happy with 2080TI pov no-RT edition if it was cheaper and likely clocked a bit faster. I will certainly go AMD if raster performance is better..
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I probably will go with Nvidia if there Ray Tracing is a lot better and raster is a little slower. Ray tracing is finally going to take off with it being built into the consoles as well. The 20 series was an Alpha release of Ray tracing at best.
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I still think we're maybe 1 or 2 generations of GPU away from ray tracing becoming a household thing.
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Next gen should do half decent raytracing for reflections and global illumination. Shadows dont need it imo. Itll take 10 years for raytracing to get out of hybrid mode. For 600$ plus I want some nice added RT.
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Ya he has a point if AMD saw that current 7nm has a speed per transistor budget limit that made no sense to go for a bigger than 430mm2 gpu where you can add clock speed to make up for lack of shaders. Kind of like how PS5 is doing with its fewer shaders vs the Xbox.

I mean why pay for more silicon if in the end your gpu has the same perf as a 600mm2 gpu that runs slower? Also you get more gpus per wafer. Its win win.

And it makes for a better sales pitch: "This 430 mm2 gpu does 2.3 GHZ!" will make the kids go yeah sooner than a gpu that is 600mm2 but runs 1.7 ghz that gives roughly the same perf...
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November 2020 launch: Firstly, AMD aiming for November means it puts the next-gen Radeon a couple of months behind NVIDIA is the rumors (and my sources) are true about an "August 2020 launch, September 2020 release" for the next-gen Ampere-based GeForce RTX 3000 series graphics cards.

How AMD benefits from a November launch: It will allow the company to have a couple of months to see where NVIDIA has priced its next-gen cards, and to gauge how performance is once it hits the hands of customers. AMD would then have a couple of months to be ready for a possible KO blow (at least for 2020) with Big Navi.

Thanksgiving launch: This is big for obvious reasons, but AMD being able to be inside of the next-gen Xbox Series X, the next-gen PlayStation 5, and have an NVIDIA Killer with Big Navi -- all for thanksgiving? What better gift can AMD bring to the table for Thanksgiving than that?!

Launching alongside PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X: The stars have truly aligned for AMD to make this happen, and if performance of Big Navi is truly double that of RDNA1 and a 40-50% boost over the GeForce RTX 2080 Ti? Well, we could see AMD take out the end of 2020 with Intel and NVIDIA destroying products. Amazing.

Lisa Su did say Big Navi was coming in 'late 2020': You can read more about that here, but November is pretty damn spot on with "late 2020", right?!
Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/73881...a-2/index.html

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RDNA 2 = 40-50% faster than GeForce RTX 2080 Ti: We have rumored performance improvements inside of RDNA 2 that would make it 40-50% faster than the GeForce RTX 2080 Ti. This is impressive, as the flagship Radeon RX 5700 XT is nowhere near the RTX 2080 Ti in raw performance. You can read more on that here.

RDNA 2 = 195-225% faster than RDNA aka RX 5700 XT: RDNA 2 being a huge 195-225% faster than RDNA means that it will be a truly kick ass 4K gaming card, as well as being able to pump away at 1080p and 1440p resolutions at 120/144/165FPS much easier than the Radeon RX 5700 XT.

7% IPC improvement: AMD is bound to have at least 6-7% IPC improvement in RDNA 2 over RDNA, I would say 10% and above, but lowering estimates now will only improve what we think when AMD unleashes in November 2020.

NVIDIA Killer? Maybe: If the rumors are true, then like what Jason Momoa said when he was asked if he thought the Snyder Cut of Justice League (now known and confirmed as Zack Snyder's Justice League releasing in 2021 as a HBO Max exclusive) then I have the following answer to the question is Big Navi an NVIDIA Killer: f*ck yeah.

November 2020 launch: This is the key. November gives AMD a couple of months to see how Ampere does, and launch it when the next-gen consoles are launching in the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X. More on the November 2020 launch of RDNA 2 here.
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RDNA 2 will be fantastic, but common tech journalism, let's get a grip here.
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Also stating that they are still not done with it, which explains the November release, also stating all performance talk to this point is just speculation.
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