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Old Jun 26, 2003, 03:05 AM   #1
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Default Winrar,Winace which one or a new one?

Could U guys tell me which program is good for viewing compresed arhive?
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Old Jun 26, 2003, 03:06 AM   #2
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I hate WinAce. Lame graphical ad-based crap.

WinRar is pretty sweet though.

Still, I wish that we had one primary ZIP standard like back in the day...
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Old Jun 26, 2003, 06:48 AM   #3
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WinRAR is the best IMO
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Old Jun 26, 2003, 11:47 AM   #4
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WinRar is the best in my opinion
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Old Jun 26, 2003, 01:17 PM   #5
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I use WinRAR and PowerArchiver.
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Old Jun 26, 2003, 03:09 PM   #6
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WinRAR. Definitely.
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Old Jun 26, 2003, 07:29 PM   #7
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I use IZarc 3.3 and it's been handling all archive files I throw at it. Even that LZH one or whatever it was for the Yuma bench.

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Old Jun 26, 2003, 10:34 PM   #8
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I legally own WinZip - have for years.

BUT, I use PowerDesk Pro 5 from V-Com software as my primary file manager and it has ZIP support.

I couple that with WinRar to handle the unzipping of other formats like RAR and ACE (I HATE ACE!)

You can get a free version of PowerDesk 5, without some of the fancy features at:

http://www.v-com.com/product/pd_free_trial.html

I only use WinRar on the pop up menu/context menu to unarchive them, and use PowerDesk's zip functions to archive.
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Old Jun 26, 2003, 11:07 PM   #9
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WinRAR gets my vote as well..

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Old Jun 27, 2003, 06:19 AM   #10
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Winrar = teh daddeh
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Old Jun 27, 2003, 10:17 AM   #11
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WinAce is OK for opening multiple file types, but it doesn't work with newer .rar files. WinRAR is the way to go. Personally, I install them both.
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Old Jun 27, 2003, 03:22 PM   #12
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I use IZarc 3.3 and it's been handling all archive files I throw at it. Even that LZH one or whatever it was for the Yuma bench.

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Yep, gets my vote. It can handle ANY format, and I think it's free too
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Old Jun 27, 2003, 07:28 PM   #13
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Lol! I thought I was one of the few that hated WinACE with a passion........ nice to know I'm not the only one! I use a Winzip/WinRAR combo. I prefer Winzip for actual zip files (and cabs and such) and I use winRAR for .rar and .ace files.
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i have to say that i prefer winace for managing archives, but you gotta have a full version
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Old Jun 27, 2003, 11:38 PM   #15
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The combination of Powerdesk 5 and using WINRAR only on the Right-Click menu works great for me. I select the files and any of them that are RAR (or that hated ACE crap) I select to either EXTRACT HERE or the very convenient EXTRACT to archivename\. It works SO incredibly well.

I rarely ever RAR anything, but when I do need to ZIP something so that each file is in its own archive, Winrar does that nicely. I just pick ADD TO ARCHIVE off the context menu (right click) and then make sure the "PUT EACH FILE INTO SEPERATE ARCHIVE" option from the Files menu and I'm off to the races. Works fantastic.

WinAce is crap. Utter, utter Crap.
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Old Jun 28, 2003, 05:48 AM   #16
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Apart from people not liking WinAce, which is of course a personal preference, are there any technical reasons why people think WinAce is, for want of a better term, crap?
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Old Jun 28, 2003, 06:00 AM   #17
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I guess the thing with me is the pushy install/ad crud and the fact that WinRar is so much less intrusive and very fast, seemingly consuming less resources too on my 9x system.

WinRar is more established, more capable and also better supported.

I know sometimes I'm not very logical, but sometimes products just bug you, ya know?

I do like WinZip a lot, but the 2.04g spec is so limited and with the writer passed on and the split in the ZIP camp between PKWARE and others, I think WinRar is going to be a top contender.

I'm a spoiled brat, and I should be more grateful I guess. I really wish the ZIP format had stayed the top dog, but it just fell so far behind the times in terms of things like disk-based break-apart archiving and the like. Sniff...
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Old Jun 28, 2003, 06:02 AM   #18
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Remember LZH? Loved it.

Remember ARJ? Sure wished that IT had become the default standard. Started the whole multi-file archive thing nicely, did it not?
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Old Jun 28, 2003, 06:17 AM   #19
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I use Directory Opus for ZIP file handling which is also a replacement for Windows Explorer. And the thing that I love most with DOPUS ZIP handler is the speed. Because it has ZIP support integrated it only takes a fraction of a second to open a ZIP file. And for all other archives I now use WinRAR(before WinACE which I got sick of it) Tanx for the info PPL.
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Old Jun 28, 2003, 06:20 AM   #20
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Remember LZH? Loved it.

Remember ARJ? Sure wished that IT had become the default standard. Started the whole multi-file archive thing nicely, did it not?
I remember. Those were the days of dos command and
ARJ -A..... commands. I loved and still love ARJ and it still bits the hell out of ZIP.
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I use Directory Opus for ZIP file handling which is also a replacement for Windows Explorer. And the thing that I love most with DOPUS ZIP handler is the speed. Because it has ZIP support integrated it only takes a fraction of a second to open a ZIP file. And for all other archives I now use WinRAR(before WinACE which I got sick of it) Tanx for the info PPL.
is that the same Directory Opus that u could get for the Amiga back in the day?
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$60 is sure expensive. I got PowerDesk Pro 5 for like $20 when it first came out. But Opus does look fairly cool, that is for sure.
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7z > winrar, because it's free and works with most compressed formats.

http://www.7-zip.org/
7 Zip don't do ACE decoding, right? WinRar does, thankfully. Some people like to use ACE for the NO CD hacks, and I wish they would stick with ZIP instead...

I'm soooooo old school
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If I may ask, what makes WinRAR >> (much greater than) WinZip? I use WinZip myself and have used WinRAR rarely so I don't know much/enough about WinRAR.
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Just gave IZarc a go and I must say I'm impressed, looks like it has all I need so far, still keeping Winrar on the side just in case but I have a feeling it will become obsolte soon

I also tried a few of the compression methods IZarc has to offer and 7-Zip seems the most effective so far but the slowest, regular zip the fastest but largest and winrar somewhere inbetween.

Here are some numbers I zipped my mirc dir for testing.

mirc.rar 3520kb
mirc.zip 4030kb
mirc.7z 2598kb

oh and original size was 8MB
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If I may ask, what makes WinRAR >> (much greater than) WinZip? I use WinZip myself and have used WinRAR rarely so I don't know much/enough about WinRAR.
Well, there are unfortunately a wide array of archive types out there, and one thing RAR does is allow you to pretty much unzip them all with no issues.

That aside, It has the ability to archive and de-archive a group of selected files individually, which is great for archiving individual bitmaps or vector files like Autocad, where you want to search by drawing number.

It also has a very well done feature that allows you to set the archive break point and allow you to archive say a 20 meg file into 10 Two meg files directly to your hard drive. That is a nice feature.

I'm not as uptight about the compression ratio thing, but those two big features are one reason I believe Winrar is so popular.

I too would prefer only one standard, but with the strange going-ons at PKWare and the death of its founder, the ZIP format has stagnated and will soon be splintering, causing even more chaos in the marketplace.
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Just gave IZarc a go and I must say I'm impressed, looks like it has all I need so far, still keeping Winrar on the side just in case but I have a feeling it will become obsolte soon
WinRar just came out with the 3.2 release. I don't understand how it could be obsolete soon.

WinACE has been stagnant for nearly a year now, and the only one innovating ZIP seems to be WinZip (Niko Mak).
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WinRar just came out with the 3.2 release. I don't understand how it could be obsolete soon.
Sorry didn't mean it would become obsolete in general, just on my HD Winrar is still my fav just a shame it's not free
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Sorry didn't mean it would become obsolete in general, just on my HD Winrar is still my fav just a shame it's not free
I hear ya.

Good news is, I believe, that the command-line decompressor is free.

You can download PowerDesk 5 basic for free from Vcom at:

http://www.v-com.com/product/pd_free_trial.html

They say free trial but it really is the same thing without FTP and some other stuff.

Combine PowerDesk 5 and WinRar and you are hookin' and crookin'...
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is that the same Directory Opus that u could get for the Amiga back in the day?
Yes, its the same except much newer version. I like it very much.


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