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Old Jan 19, 2019, 10:32 PM   #211
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Old Jan 20, 2019, 04:11 AM   #212
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Says it's not a run+gun game.

Shows almost exclusively run+gun footage.

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Whatever. Not saying it can't be fun and immersive. Just doesn't seem at all like the other ones.
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Old Jan 20, 2019, 10:26 AM   #213
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Whatever. Not saying it can't be fun and immersive. Just doesn't seem at all like the other ones.
If you take the game out of the Metro tunnels yeah, that'll feel much different. Too "Rage" for you?
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Has there been any confirmation about how much of the game is underground like the previous games? The videos make it hard to tell but there seem to be at least a few sections. I don't mind more open above ground stuff but it would be a shame to see the underground stuff be relegated to a minor part of the game when they were so awesome in LL.
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Old Jan 21, 2019, 12:07 AM   #215
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Has there been any confirmation about how much of the game is underground like the previous games?
Idk about that but if they are showing off 90% above ground, wide open areas, I assume most of the game is that.
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They haven’t mentioned anything of the likes. We only know that there will be a mixture of linear and open world environments.
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Has there been any confirmation about how much of the game is underground like the previous games? The videos make it hard to tell but there seem to be at least a few sections. I don't mind more open above ground stuff but it would be a shame to see the underground stuff be relegated to a minor part of the game when they were so awesome in LL.

Point 4 of this video suggests there will be mostly open world game-play

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Let’s hope there are towers to climb and many icons for collectibles.
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How often are recommended specs really worth paying attention to though?


I mean, why would a 9900k suddenly be the cpu required for ultra when a 8700 basically performs the same in games?


It will probably not run that great at 4k with rtx enabled, but did anyone really expect anything different?
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I mean, why would a 9900k suddenly be the cpu required for ultra when a 8700 basically performs the same in games?


It will probably not run that great at 4k with rtx enabled, but did anyone really expect anything different?
This makes sense.
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I mean, why would a 9900k suddenly be the cpu required for ultra when a 8700 basically performs the same in games?


It will probably not run that great at 4k with rtx enabled, but did anyone really expect anything different?
You are stuck in old school thinking: The 8700k has the same perform in games that are not designed to use higher core counts. 2 extra cores makes a big difference when the game is designed to use them. Also, pay attention to memory requirements. 1440p is 16 GB of system ram VS 8 GB at 1080p. Also look at graphic settings, as each tier raises the resolution as well as raises quality, 9900k is required for extreme, not ultra.

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That is because most games prior are designed to run on 4 cores or less. That is changing now that 6 to 8 cores is now becoming mains stream on pc's and consoles.

But, at the end of the day, when it has been released, we will know for sure.
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No, I just don't expect metro to be the first game that significantly elevates a 8/16 cpu over a 6/12 one.

If anything, it will be the higher stock boost clock that gives the 9900k the edge.
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No, I just don't expect metro to be the first game that significantly elevates a 8/16 cpu over a 6/12 one.

If anything, it will be the higher stock boost clock that gives the 9900k the edge.
5k vs 5.2k isn't going to make much difference, and that is if you have a good motherboard and a good cooler on the 9900k, which will amount to what 1 or 2 fps, if you base it on boost clocks only.

We will just have to wait and see. Metro releases has been known to raise the bar.
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When I upgraded my system a couple weeks back I only put 16gb of ram in there. I fully intended to upgrade to 32 at some point, might as well be now.
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I thought the consensus was that 32gb was pointless for gaming and 16gb was plenty. Should I be upgrading to 32gb?
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I'm going to have to wait for my amd 3700x now
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Old Jan 26, 2019, 04:54 PM   #238
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4.3Ghz vs 4.7ghz if metro truly is a game that uses all cores.
actually we are both wrong.. it's 4.7 and 5.0 for the 8700k and 9900k (non k 8700 is not the one listed in the recommended specs I linked)

https://ark.intel.com/products/12668...p-to-4-70-GHz-

https://ark.intel.com/products/18660...p-to-5-00-GHz-
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That's the single core turbo boost, 4.3 and 4.7 is the all core boost.
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That's the single core turbo boost, 4.3 and 4.7 is the all core boost.
They are hitting the 4.7 and 5.0 on all cores because of the all core enhancements built into Intel and AMD motherboards.

"The difference from all-core Turbo enhancements is immediately visible in Cinebench: Disabled, with the clocks generally locking to 4.3GHz all-core (per Intel’s spec)"

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3...bo-8700k-8600k

It really doesn't matter as it isn't the turbo speeds that's the big difference. Besides, you have just countered or own original argument by trying to argue the turbo speeds is the main difference:

I mean, why would a 9900k suddenly be the cpu required for ultra when a 8700 basically performs the same in games?

How can the turbo speeds matter if your above statement was accurate? You just proved yourself wrong.
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