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Old Feb 13, 2020, 04:37 PM   #361
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Get a grip.

Also, nice that you lumped in Communist China with CNN and MSNBC.
Well you can't trust all three of them so they have that in common...
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Old Feb 13, 2020, 06:09 PM   #362
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The Chinese government and all of it's service partners must be strained beyond the breaking point right now. They really are being forced to lock down and feed the entire population while taking an economic whopping. Things must be horrible over there. Things were already tense with the previous year of rioting and protests. Add in the overpopulation and unbreathable air. F that.
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Old Feb 14, 2020, 01:14 AM   #363
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https://www.cnbc.com/video/2020/02/1...y-shelton.html

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I was recently in England to go to an academic ceremony. The son of a major Chinese political figure was at this university. The father and I and the sons had dinner, and he told me at the very beginning of this that as far as what china is reporting his own government and he's a senior official. You had to add two zeros two zeros to the numbers they were reporting. I would say now you would have to add at least one zero. This isn't over I don't think it's going to go away. They are reporting under new examination standards but we know that the data we get from china often is not correct. And to hear a senior member of the central committee say that you had to add two zeros back then and one zero now is a pretty serious thing.
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Old Feb 14, 2020, 01:29 AM   #364
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US company finds cure/vaccine in 3 hours after getting hands on virus.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/calif...123356925.html

Some good news!! ^_^
Yep some years ago they were working on trying to get a system to give us 2x flu vaccines a year and even 4x. Or every 3 months. But of course as usual we really only pursue these initiatives when the **** hits the fan.

Unfortunately there has yet to be a vaccine for mental diseases like malthusianism. Even education doesnt seem to work.

http://trise.org/2020/01/28/overpopu...nd-ecofascism/
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Old Feb 14, 2020, 09:20 AM   #365
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No offense but that isn't education. That article you linked is pure ignorance and was clearly written by an idealist that understands the world doesn't have infinite resources and can't sustain an infinite amount of people but chooses to avoid the logical conclusion and instead pins an idealistic social idea as the answer to the problem. That article completely ignores nature and the natural order of things. While overpopulation may have been used as a scaremongering tactic in the past that doesn't mean it doesn't exist or pose a serious threat to any confined space. The inability to supply resources to a growing population has killed off many tribes and civilizations.

The truth is that a properly governed nation doesn't have overpopulation because the people there don't need to have 8 kids and hope that 2 of them survive. They live longer lives and the mortality rate is low. The amount of death, disease and suffering is a fraction in comparison to overpopulated areas. Industry and technology can be advanced without damage to the planet when it's used by a responsibly sized population. The air is not acid- smog ect. and resources are not consumed at a rate that exceeds the earth's ability to produce resources.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgGLFozNM2o
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink

As you can observe in nature. If a population is given a near infinite amount of resources within a confined space and their fear of death disappears. The behavior sink appears and the population becomes degenerate and eventually goes extinct from the same threats nature poses but now self imposed. (more warped and increased suffering.) An infinite number of people can not be sustained in a limited space regardless of how it's governed. Proper government avoids overpopulation. Being good to one another and singing around a campfire is not going to fix the problem.

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All of that fails to take into account the innovations and alternate resources that we avail ourselves.

The article I linked also links to several others you might want to check them out. Every prediction by overpopulation ideologues has failed to materialize. Comparing us to old civilisation that didnt have a path to innovation and were susceptible to simple things like droughts are not valid. Nor are comparisons to animals who simply live off the land:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/scie...tter-1.3808527


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World population trends were reviewed recently by Darrell Bricker and John Ibbitson in the Observer on January 27th. The authors seriously questioned the UN projection that world population numbers would continue to increase until 2100, quoting several well-respected demographers. Jorgen Randers, a Norwegian academic who decades ago warned of a potential global catastrophe caused by overpopulation, has changed his mind.

“The world population will never reach nine billion people,” he now believes, “It will peak at eight billion in 2040 and then decline.” Similarly, Prof Wolfgang Lutz and his fellow demographers at Vienna’s International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis predict the human population will stabilise by mid-century and then start to go down.
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A population will either destroy itself of fix itself. If it doesn't the earth itself will fix the problem. I agree that the population will not surpass 9 billion because it can't sustain it.

I strongly disagree with your outlook on the situation. You can have infinite resources and the problem of overpopulation still remains. There are people who believe humanity is special and they have souls where animals do not. We are animals and we behave like them. That's what reproduction is. If you don't believe that then you are in denial in my opinion.

We already have all the signs of behavioral sink where I live. Increase in gays, lack of gender roles, increase in abortions child abuse and drug abuse. All of it leads to a genetic dead end. The Narcisistic beautiful ones that constantly groom themselves are not incels and yet they are corrupted with STD's and drug abuse. They have zero interest in offspring and are purely hedonistic while living a very posh life. Once it's started it can't be reversed. It's natures way of curing a mistake. China and India are simply next in line.

They will either suffer from a lack of resources or they will stabilize and fix the problem. Stabilizing an overpopulated area will fall to the hedonism that results from overpopulation and will never end well. The only way forward is to fix the problem before the self destructive behavior settles in. It requires forethought from a governing party that can only result from the observation and evolution of previously failed civilizations.

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A population will either destroy itself of fix itself. If it doesn't the earth itself will fix the problem. I agree that the population will not surpass 9 billion because it can't sustain it.

I strongly disagree with your outlook on the situation. You can have infinite resources and the problem of overpopulation still remains. There are people who believe humanity is special and they have souls where animals do not. We are animals and we behave like them. That's what reproduction is. If you don't believe that then you are in denial in my opinion.

We already have all the signs of behavioral sink where I live. Increase in gays, lack of gender roles, increase in abortions child abuse and drug abuse. All of it leads to a genetic dead end. The Narcisistic beautiful ones that constantly groom themselves are not incels and yet they are corrupted with STD's and drug abuse. They have zero interest in offspring and are purely hedonistic while living a very posh life. Once it's started it can't be reversed. It's natures way of curing a mistake. China and India are simply next in line.

They will either suffer from a lack of resources or they will stabilize and fix the problem. Stabilizing an overpopulated area will fall to the hedonism that results from overpopulation and will never end well. The only way forward is to fix the problem before the self destructive behavior settles in. It requires forethought from a governing party that can only result from the observation and evolution of previously failed civilizations.
Again I think to compare with past civilizations is fraught with peril we have much more at our disposal today, its really apples and oranges, and as for what you think is cultural decline theres too much to disagree on in this thread. Seems to me the issue today is far more economics than any cultural changes and the causes of such changes is to move away from a repressive culture that often caused more problems than it prevented. Culturally liberal countries dont mass murder their own people or play with their basic demographic structures like old China did.
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There are plenty of less developed nations where the population is more healthy and happy. Technology can help but ignoring previous civilizations downfall is the same thing as ignoring your own previous mistakes. Rome fell to the same hedonism. Social behavior is normal but if it's twisted it becomes a problem.

Where I am from there is a large part of the population that is intimidated by or annoyed by society. This is largely because there are way to many people crowded into a small landmass. These people never leave their houses. They observe negative social behavior and become anti social as a result. These people lose the ability to socialize and therefore reproduce or even take care of themselves. They are a liability on their families and society. They still feel natures programming and wish to get off which is why they are addicted to internet porn and hentai video games. I have no moral judgments on these people. They are simply the result of their environment. It results in no reproduction which goes against natures design but the problem is not them. it's their environment.

Anyway, I don't want to get into a heated debate but I felt the need to voice my disagreement.
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****'s getting real in the ****'s getting real in China thread
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**** is definitely getting real in China now. Cats are wearing masks now too!

https://www.foxnews.com/health/cats-...asks-china.amp
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Kao Lor and his uncle Lee Lor were traveling through the state on their way to pick up a car when they stopped to get a room at a Super 8 Motel in the northern Indiana city of Plymouth.
After entering the hotel Kao Lor says an employee asked if he was Chinese. Lor began recording the encounter. In the video a man who later identified himself as an employee asks Lor if he is Chinese, and when Lor asks why he needs to know the man responds, “Ever heard of the coronavirus?”
The back and forth continues between Lor and the man with the hotel employee later saying “If you are from China, I need to know.”
When Lor asks why, the man said he has been told “anyone from China has be picked up and quarantined for two weeks.” The employee tells Lor it is company policy.
Eventually Lor and his uncle decided to try another hotel.
looks like the racial profiling has started

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That's the result of mass hysteria because of people overblowing this
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