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RTX 30 series 24 66.67%
AMD 6000 series 7 19.44%
Previous gen nVidia with no plans to upgrade 0 0%
Previous gen AMD with no plans to upgrade 3 8.33%
Not interested in this gen and waiting for new gen 2 5.56%
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Old Nov 20, 2020, 05:34 AM   #1
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Default nVidia vs AMD. Which brand did you/are you going to choose?

Simple question. Post reasons for why you prefer a brand. No need to go in circular arguments.

For me personally here are the reasons for choosing nVidia.

1) mature drivers / day one drivers
2) availability and first to market
3) great price (unlike 2000 series) and only 50-100 more expensive (depending on AIB)
4) gsync range
5) RTX performance
6) larger group of games that support nVidia branding
7) free games with cards

Reason for not choosing AMD would be opposite of above. Let’s keep it civil in here. Zealots can already talk about whatever garbage circular reasoning they want to talk about in dedicated threads.
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Old Nov 20, 2020, 05:48 AM   #2
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I'm buying the first available 3070Ti, 3080, 6800 or 6800xt at MSRP.
If magically all become available simultaneously I'd go nVidia. I think puzzle games(Portal3, Talos2) are going to be glorious with [email protected] Ampere looks to be slightly better @4K and far superior with RT.
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Old Nov 20, 2020, 06:22 AM   #3
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Might be better asking this question in a couple of months as current availabilty makes it rather pointless. I think most people interested in upgrading will buy the first brand available which doesn't necessarily mean its the one they really wanted.
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AMD has a winning product with Radeon 6000 series but I'm a graphics whore and RT is a good part of that. For that reason and DLSS, which AMD will get, I went nV 3080.
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I think the extra features of the 30 series gives it the edge at this point in time.
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I was game for whichever I could get to checkout first.
RTX 3070 won. Which is OK, because their DLSS is getting support faster.
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I'm locked into Nvidia cards because of IRAY and cuda support for 3D rendering, animation and video editing.

Another main reason for me would be that it came out first and the time between card launches is more than double what I'm used to.

I also figured that Nvidia would be ahead in real time raytracing because they jumped into it first and have spent more time and money on it. RTX is pretty much light and shadow quality which make up a huge portion of the realism in modern games.

Other reasons would be reliable drivers weather I'm using daz studio or using SLI on the latest games the stability and support seems to have been a cut above anything ATI or AMD have done up to now.

Nvidia is usually the one that goes out of their way to innovate first with features like Gsync, hairworks, physX ect. I'd rather have any features that improve the gaming experience as soon as they are available.

My original estimate was that AMD's best card would be 5% faster than a 3080 with half the RTX performance and no DLSS alternative. Looks like I was pretty close on that estimate so no regrets or surprises really.
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I think the extra features of the 30 series gives it the edge at this point in time.
At this point in time...... RDNA 3 is gonna be massive.
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I'm locked into Nvidia cards because of IRAY and cuda support for 3D rendering, animation and video editing.

Another main reason for me would be that it came out first and the time between card launches is more than double what I'm used to.

I also figured that Nvidia would be ahead in real time raytracing because they jumped into it first and have spent more time and money on it. RTX is pretty much light and shadow quality which make up a huge portion of the realism in modern games.

Other reasons would be reliable drivers weather I'm using daz studio or using SLI on the latest games the stability and support seems to have been a cut above anything ATI or AMD have done up to now.

Nvidia is usually the one that goes out of their way to innovate first with features like Gsync, hairworks, physX ect. I'd rather have any features that improve the gaming experience as soon as they are available.

My original estimate was that AMD's best card would be 5% faster than a 3080 with half the RTX performance and no DLSS alternative. Looks like I was pretty close on that estimate so no regrets or surprises really.
I'm not linked into either now Nvidia support freesync. I'll be honest and say my preferred choice would be Sapphire Pulse 6800XT. If I can't get one then a Palit 3080 any model. I don't need to upgrade but I want to so it's basically an impulse buy. I'll keep it a couple of years and then see what's around.
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I'll be honest and say my preferred choice would be Sapphire Pulse 6800XT.
NITRO+ looks dead sexy.
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More than I want to pay for not much more performance. The pulse cards tend to hit the sweet spot of bang for buck. I have a closed case so not interested in what they look like
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More than I want to pay for not much more performance. The pulse cards tend to hit the sweet spot of bang for buck. I have a closed case so not interested in what they look like
How much? I have not seen any US pricing yet.
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I'm not linked into either now Nvidia support freesync. I'll be honest and say my preferred choice would be Sapphire Pulse 6800XT. If I can't get one then a Palit 3080 any model. I don't need to upgrade but I want to so it's basically an impulse buy. I'll keep it a couple of years and then see what's around.
It's good that it's an impulse buy. Cards are hard to come by at the moment and being caught in this crap when you really need a card sucks. I got lucky and even then I paid more than MSRP for mine.
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How much? I have not seen any US pricing yet.
There's no pricing anywhere worldwide

Basically we'll know on Wednesday and it all depends on supply. Reasonable supply £749 upwards depending on card and bad supply £799 upwards. I'll decide on the day if any are available. If above £779 I'm going 3080 as several cards were on sale last Wednesday for that amount. I'm in no hurry but seriously frustrated with the crap inventory of both sets of cards.
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3080 at $50 more gets you DLSS, RTX, and drivers that you know works.

I think it's kinda a no brainer, TBH.

That being said you can't go wrong with either, get what you can.
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3080 at $50 more gets you DLSS, RTX, and drivers that you know works.

I think it's kinda a no brainer, TBH.

That being said you can't go wrong with either, get what you can.
Absolutely agree about 3080. Hope it happens.
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Y'all that complain about amd drivers the last amd card you probably owned was a 9700pro. I've had just as many driver issues on nvidia as I have AMD, and it's not many at all.
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Y'all that complain about amd drivers the last amd card you probably owned was a 9700pro. I've had just as many driver issues on nvidia as I have AMD, and it's not many at all.
I've owned the Fury pro, Vega64 and 5700XT and you're trying to lecture me on AMD drivers? Really? I'm a masochist so I'm trying to buy a 6800XT. Do I expect drivers in first three months to be great, absolutely not. That's how it is. Jeez.
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Seriously considered AMD this gen (first time since 5800 series) and my displays can support Freesync/Gsync, but went with Nv because:

4k performance - no contest here

RT performance - Some good games are starting to roll out with decent implementations beyond a couple reflections. Global Illumination and RT AO are game changers for IQ IMHO. The performance gap here is huge and I don't want to have to turn settings off/down on my new video card.

RT quality - I was a bit spooked when I read about poor[er] RT quality on AMD [denoiser] but I suppose this can be improved by driver updates as time goes on.

DLSS - After playing DS with DLSS 2.0 looking better than native, I'm converted. This is fantastic tech. I'm not convinced AMD will produce tech that is up to par without AI 64xSSAA algorithms. They'll likely use some sort of cheaper and easier to implement alternative, like checkerboarding as seen on consoles.

Nv feature set - Don't really care for streaming and productivity options and that sort of thing, but rather IQ tweakability, enhancements etc. I'm also more familiar with and prefer Nv's ecosystem.

Driver support - I feel Nv support is more robust in a variety of ways. AMD's AF issues are not good either, I'm pretty anal about filtering quality.

Nv will also roll out their version of SAM for [small] performance uplifts, so that evens out the playing field in that regard.

Availability - I wanted something now, in time for Xmas holidays and Cyberpunk with full RT, not next year.
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Seriously considered AMD this gen (first time since 5800 series) and my displays can support Freesync/Gsync, but went with Nv because:

4k performance - no contest here

RT performance - Some good games are starting to roll out with decent implementations beyond a couple reflections. Global Illumination and RT AO are game changers for IQ IMHO. The performance gap here is huge and I don't want to have to turn settings off/down on my new video card.

RT quality - I was a bit spooked when I read about poor[er] RT quality on AMD [denoiser] but I suppose this can be improved by driver updates as time goes on.

DLSS - After playing DS with DLSS 2.0 looking better than native, I'm converted. This is fantastic tech. I'm not convinced AMD will produce tech that is up to par without AI 64xSSAA algorithms. They'll likely use some sort of cheaper and easier to implement alternative, like checkerboarding as seen on consoles.

Nv feature set - Don't really care for streaming and productivity options and that sort of thing, but rather IQ tweakability, enhancements etc. I'm also more familiar with and prefer Nv's ecosystem.

Driver support - I feel Nv support is more robust in a variety of ways. AMD's AF issues are not good either, I'm pretty anal about filtering quality.

Nv will also roll out their version of SAM for [small] performance uplifts, so that evens out the playing field in that regard.

Availability - I wanted something now, in time for Xmas holidays and Cyberpunk with full RT, not next year.
Only comments I can think are,

Not interested in 4K performance.

Never had RT so can't say.

Apart from that I'm in if one is available
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But you may be down the track, especially if your GPU can handle it. Hi refresh 4k monitors in 2021 will be more affordable and IMHO take the place of 1440p Hi refresh monitors for [semi]enthusiasts like us.

It doesn't necessarily have to be 4k either, but also Ultrawide resolutions, and even DSR resolutions. If buying a video card now, I'd be looking at Hi-res performance for the future anyway. Just my opinion.
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I should have also added this to my list:

I can get an all AMD machine in the form of PS5/Xbox anyway. Nv for PC.
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Coming from a 1080Ti, my reasons for upgrading was Ray Tracing. I could do okay with raster only games with very few exception

So far I have played Metro Exodus, Control, Quake II RTX and CoD Blops CW. I can appreciate the difference between raster and RT versions and its definitely worth the upgrade (to 3090).

And since I wanted good/ best RT performance, there is really no choice but Nvidia.
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I don't imagine cyberpunk is gonna run well with RT on 6000 cards at 1440p without DLSS, so went with a 3080 card.
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Yes playing that game without RT would be a disservice to vision of the developers. Good call. It is also why I bought it on PC.
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which ever higher end is available - will prob wait to see what 6900xt and 3080ti (or what ever they call it) brings to the table
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