Go Back   Rage3D » Rage3D Discussion Area » Gaming and Computing Forums » PC Gaming
Rage3D Subscribe Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

PC Gaming Discuss all PC games, past and present. Talk about your favorite games, share tips and strategies, and anything else relating to computer games.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old May 28, 2004, 08:43 PM   #1
Advertisement (Guests Only)

Login or Register to remove this ad
dumb1
Radeon Sea Islands
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Turn around
Posts: 3,365
dumb1 is still being judged by the masses


Default Thief: Deadly Shadows best game so far for 2004

So far, compared to what's been released in 2004, I would have to say Thief: Deadly Shadows is the best, far cry included.

The level of immersion, tense gameplay, awesoem voice acting and sound is unmatched.
__________________
P4, 3.6GHZ, 4g RAM, WINXP (HOME), DX9.0C, NVIDIA GEFORCE 8800GTX 768mg
dumb1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 28, 2004, 08:49 PM   #2
GoldenNugget
Ummm... Nugget?
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: United States MA, USA
Posts: 3,828
GoldenNugget is still being judged by the masses


Default

its definately better than FC, but we'll have to see the other games coming out soon.
GoldenNugget is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 28, 2004, 08:53 PM   #3
ReDeeMeR_RR
Crysis ftw
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Canada Lithuania - Baltic States
Posts: 4,465
ReDeeMeR_RR is still being judged by the masses


Default

Well gamespot says people do not move their lips when they talk.... so much ofr GOTY.
__________________
C2Q6600 Asus-PKC Geforce 8800gtx ~1Tb HDD X-fi platinum YAMAHA RX-V550 + AudioPro EVIDENCE-E6 Speakers Logitech laser Mouse - Samsung 40' M87 + IIYAMA Pro 514 22' Lite-On dvd rw
ReDeeMeR_RR is offline   Reply With Quote
Advertisement (Guests Only)
Login or Register to remove this ad
Old May 28, 2004, 08:58 PM   #4
Seek & Destroy
Radeon Arctic Islands
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: United States Virginia
Posts: 5,844
Seek & Destroy is still being judged by the masses


Default

April Fool's
__________________

Seek & Destroy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 28, 2004, 09:00 PM   #5
Surfer2374
Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 22
Surfer2374 is still being judged by the masses


Default

Hmm I find thief's small levels to detract from the immersion level and ruins the game for me. Plus choice is always better than being forced to play the same way thru every level.
Surfer2374 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 28, 2004, 09:03 PM   #6
dumb1
Radeon Sea Islands
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Turn around
Posts: 3,365
dumb1 is still being judged by the masses


Default

Quote:
Originally posted by ReDeeMeR_RR
Well gamespot says people do not move their lips when they talk.... so much ofr GOTY.
u obviously haven't played the game
__________________
P4, 3.6GHZ, 4g RAM, WINXP (HOME), DX9.0C, NVIDIA GEFORCE 8800GTX 768mg
dumb1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 28, 2004, 09:06 PM   #7
black hole sun
Hey guys!
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: California
Posts: 5,233
black hole sun is still being judged by the masses


Default

Best game? Um, no.

Performance is crappy, graphics aren't that hot, and animation and movement's really cumbersome. Not as good as Far Cry.
__________________
The inhabitants of the earth are of two sorts:
Those with brains, but no religion,
And those with religion, but no brains.

-- Abul Ala al-Ma`arri, 1057 A.D.

Last edited by black hole sun : May 28, 2004 at 09:10 PM.
black hole sun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 28, 2004, 09:15 PM   #8
Neva
Same trite title: Bĺnned
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: D/FW, Tejas
Posts: 1,641
Neva is still being judged by the masses


Default

Its really does remind me of the original thiefs. Complete with the crappy animations and dumbass AI(just like the originals, YAY!).... Its good but far from best of 2k4....
__________________
Quote:
Originally posted by mizzer
"Gee, if I had not lost my eyes I would have never learned braille."
Neva is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 28, 2004, 09:26 PM   #9
yoz
The Garbage Man
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: France Paris
Posts: 6,839
yoz once held a door open for a complete strangeryoz once held a door open for a complete strangeryoz once held a door open for a complete strangeryoz once held a door open for a complete stranger


Default

And don't forget the zones just like those in IW, and here the action "freezes" until you come back. So if someone was attacking you at the moment you left a zone, he'll be waiting there to finish you off when you come back. VERY stupid imo.
yoz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 28, 2004, 09:28 PM   #10
dumb1
Radeon Sea Islands
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Turn around
Posts: 3,365
dumb1 is still being judged by the masses


Default

The gfx are awesome, bloom effect rocks and if u r experiencing poor performance ur rig ain't configured right, cause it plays smooth as anything on mine.

Gameplay is excellent, AI is better than most games. Also, i never said it was GOTY, i just said it's the best game released so far in 2004
__________________
P4, 3.6GHZ, 4g RAM, WINXP (HOME), DX9.0C, NVIDIA GEFORCE 8800GTX 768mg
dumb1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 28, 2004, 09:38 PM   #11
typoEDR
Radeon Caribbean Islands
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Noitacol
Posts: 4,151
typoEDR is still being judged by the masses


Default

Best of 2K4? It has the framerate of soft poo on my rig. And yes, the dumbass AI was not the best feature to return...
__________________
"Who's baby is that? What's your angle? I'll buy that."
typoEDR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 28, 2004, 10:01 PM   #12
Mike89
Radeon R700
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: United States California, where there's so much liberal BS in the air, it's hard to breathe sometimes.
Posts: 827
Mike89 is still being judged by the masses


Default

GOTY? You got to be kiddin me. Better than FC? I don't know how anyone can even say that with a straight face unless they're smoking something hullucinogenic (as the dude on Nvidia says). Heh heh

Game runs crappy just like DX2.

For me, it's game performance first, game content second. If the game doesn't run well, I don't care how good it is, it's still crappy.

FarCry STOMPS on this game without even breaking a sweat!
Mike89 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 28, 2004, 10:09 PM   #13
sMashPiranha
Radeon Volcanic Islands
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: New Zealand New Zealand
Posts: 3,605
sMashPiranha is still being judged by the masses


Default

I haven't actually played Thief 3 yet so my vote for BGSFF2K4 has to go to Hitman: Contracts. No other game this year has kept me going back for more like this game has.
sMashPiranha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 28, 2004, 10:20 PM   #14
GoldenNugget
Ummm... Nugget?
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: United States MA, USA
Posts: 3,828
GoldenNugget is still being judged by the masses


Default

It is unfair to compare two different games of two different genres.

All I am comparing between FC and Thief III is the cohesiveness of the two games.

Farcry is basically a tech demo that features modern weapons and a crappy story. Not really immersive, but it does have some cool graphical features that affect gameplay only slightly.

Thief III has the setting to back it up as well as the little gameplay details that make the game interesting. It also looks to have a decent cohesive storyline. While the game has the same bad engine as DX2, that doesn't necessarily make it bad. Sure the AI isn't that great, but was FC's AI any better?

IMO, gameplay is more than graphics. FC was impressive technically, but to call it a breakthrough in the gameplay department is a bit of an overstatement. From the demo, Thief III does appear to have decent cohesive gameplay with it's crappy technicalities.

Because of these technicalities of the game engine, I think that is what will keep Thief II from being GOTY.

Last edited by GoldenNugget : May 28, 2004 at 10:23 PM.
GoldenNugget is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 28, 2004, 10:22 PM   #15
GoldenNugget
Ummm... Nugget?
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: United States MA, USA
Posts: 3,828
GoldenNugget is still being judged by the masses


Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Mike89
For me, it's game performance first, game content second. If the game doesn't run well, I don't care how good it is, it's still crappy.
FC's performance wasn't that great either.
GoldenNugget is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 28, 2004, 10:30 PM   #16
BroadbandGamer
Radeon R700
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 908
BroadbandGamer is still being judged by the masses


Default

I made it through the training and part of the first mission before I got real bored.
__________________
A64 X2 4400+ | ASUS A8N-SLI Premium | ATI X1900 XTX | 74GB Raptor | Antec TP-II 550 | Lian Li PC-65B Sony DRU-700A | TWINX2048-3200C2 | Dell 2005FPW | G5 |Audigy 2 ZS | Saitek Eclipse | Wingman Freedom 2.4
BroadbandGamer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 28, 2004, 10:40 PM   #17
Arioch
3D Vision Fanboy
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 2,075
Arioch can beat 'Minesweeper' on any difficultyArioch can beat 'Minesweeper' on any difficulty


Default

Quote:
Originally posted by GoldenNugget
FC's performance wasn't that great either.
Far Cry is using way more advanced technology.


Last edited by Arioch : May 28, 2004 at 10:49 PM.
Arioch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 28, 2004, 10:58 PM   #18
jws
Rage3D Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Rolla, MO
Posts: 1,261
jws is still being judged by the masses


Default

So far, I love Thief: DS. There's a higher level of immersion than you have in FC. FC does most things better, but I got tired of the repetition after a while.

So far here's what I see with Thief: DS...

good:
  • Atmosphere
  • Immersion
  • Sounds
  • lots of sneaking
  • voice acting

bad:
  • movements (jerky because of body awareness. They intended this I think, but I don't like it. You can turn it off in the default.ini I believe)
  • flashing with cat 4.5s (I'm living with it vs backing off to 4.4 for now)

So far, I've found much more good than bad. I think FC is a superior game technically, but I love the Thief series and sneaking games, so I'm enjoying Thief: DS a lot more. (Yes, I know you can attempt to sneak around in FC, but it's not the same.)

I've been playing Thief: DS since I got home and it was hard enough just breaking away long enough to come type up my thoughts on the game..

soooo, back to knocking taffers over the head...
__________________
3000+ barton / Abit NF7-S 1.2 / 2x512 Corsair DDR3200 / ATI Radeon 9700pro / Catalyst 6.2 / DX9.0c / TurboLink 420W PSU / Maxtor 120gig Z01P120 HD / Verbatim (NEC ND-3540a) DVD+-RW/R writer / Verbatim 40/12/48 CDRW / Initio SCSI controller / Samsung 955df / Windows XP Pro w/SP2 / Bytecc ME320U2 external USB2 enclosure with Maxtor 120gig HD


~~~
Multitasking - screwing up several things at once.
jws is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 28, 2004, 11:08 PM   #19
Nagorak
Incarnation of the Nether
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Amanackia
Posts: 11,178
Nagorak once won a refrigerator on 'The Price is Right'Nagorak once won a refrigerator on 'The Price is Right'Nagorak once won a refrigerator on 'The Price is Right'Nagorak once won a refrigerator on 'The Price is Right'Nagorak once won a refrigerator on 'The Price is Right'Nagorak once won a refrigerator on 'The Price is Right'


Default

Quote:
Originally posted by GoldenNugget
Sure the AI isn't that great, but was FC's AI any better?
I haven't played T3, but I thought FC's AI was great.
Nagorak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 28, 2004, 11:14 PM   #20
Labula
Radeon R520
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 364
Labula is still being judged by the masses


Default

Anything is better than Far Cry.
Labula is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 28, 2004, 11:53 PM   #21
BAD_MOFO
Radeon R100
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 49
BAD_MOFO is still being judged by the masses


Default

who that complains about far cry usually have crappy pcs...
__________________
-Shuttle SB61G2
-P4c 3.0GHz @ 3.6Ghz
-Corsair TwinX pc3700 1gb
-R9800pro @425/375
(X800XT/PE soon...)
-Creative Labs SB Audigy2 ZS
-WD 80GB HD
- XP pro/Sp-1
BAD_MOFO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 29, 2004, 12:00 AM   #22
rayzian
brokestatus
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Canada Toronto, Canada
Posts: 9,599
rayzian is still being judged by the masses


Default

Quote:
Originally posted by BAD_MOFO
who that complains about far cry usually have crappy pcs...
They were talking about the AI not the performance.
__________________
and we did nothing, absolutely nothing
rayzian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 29, 2004, 12:01 AM   #23
dumb1
Radeon Sea Islands
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Turn around
Posts: 3,365
dumb1 is still being judged by the masses


Default

Technically, Far Cry walks all over Thief: Deadly Shadows. But Thief is not about gfx. It's about immersion and gameplay.

Seriously, the level of depth to the gameplay is quite unmatched in most other fps to this game. You really feel u are part of a living breathing world. The production values are amazing, with some of the best voice acting and sound effects ever period!
__________________
P4, 3.6GHZ, 4g RAM, WINXP (HOME), DX9.0C, NVIDIA GEFORCE 8800GTX 768mg
dumb1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 29, 2004, 12:03 AM   #24
ThaDevil
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 580
ThaDevil is still being judged by the masses


Default

Theif 3 DS sucks, the graphics are horrible, the gameplay is severly lacking, pretty crappy game all together, I give it 5/10, very disappointed, I expected more, I feel sorry for people who actually bought it.
So far Far Cry is STILL the BEST game of the year, not only that it blows Theif 3 outta the water, no comparison.
ThaDevil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 29, 2004, 12:05 AM   #25
sMashPiranha
Radeon Volcanic Islands
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: New Zealand New Zealand
Posts: 3,605
sMashPiranha is still being judged by the masses


Default

Why does nearly every thread about a new game turn into an argument involving that tech demo?
sMashPiranha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 29, 2004, 12:51 AM   #26
GoldenNugget
Ummm... Nugget?
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: United States MA, USA
Posts: 3,828
GoldenNugget is still being judged by the masses


Default

Quote:
Originally posted by BAD_MOFO
who that complains about far cry usually have crappy pcs...
I have a 2.8 Ghz p4 with a 9800 pro 128mb and I had to scale it back to get good performance.
GoldenNugget is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 29, 2004, 12:53 AM   #27
skizatch
Radeon R100
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 41
skizatch is still being judged by the masses


Default

It's kinda nice to have a game that isn't the same old "RUN AROUND KILLING THINGS AND THEN YOU WIN!!!" Granted, FarCry, Painkiller and UT2k4 are great fun in their own right, but by no means GOTY material at all. They do nothing out of the ordinary or even new. FarCry mostly caters to people who love to tweak their systems to get every last possible framerate out of them; a legitimate thing to do, sure, but that doesn't make it a great game. A cool game, sure, but not a great one. I would love to see Crytek license out the FarCry engine so we could see some real games made with the tech. They'd probably make some phat cash.

Thief is great because the audio and the video both affect the gameplay tremendously. If you hear a guard walking around you know to be cautious, and you can tell where he is or what kind of surface he's walking around on ("clank clank" ... oh he walking over that sewer grate that I saw 10 feet away). Thief 1 was the first game to really make proper use of EAX, and it still stands out as one of the best uses of that technology to this day. Also, if you see a shadow, you can hide in it and avoid detection. You can move things around and make your own shadows to hide in (dynamic lighting affecting gameplay!), or maybe douse a torch or candle to do the same thing. The level of immersion is leagues above any other game on the market today.

If I want to run around and kill things for 20 minutes and let off some steam, I'll play UT2k4.

If I want to sink a few hours into an immersive, rewarding game, I'll play Thief.
skizatch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 29, 2004, 01:30 AM   #28
MikeEx
ಠ_ಠ
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: United States Buckeye, AZ
Posts: 1,686
MikeEx is still being judged by the masses


Default

wish they would have only used the old voice actors for the guards
__________________
.
MikeEx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 29, 2004, 01:39 AM   #29
skizatch
Radeon R100
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 41
skizatch is still being judged by the masses


Default

Quote:
Originally posted by MikeEx
wish they would have only used the old voice actors for the guards
They did ... Benny is all over the place for instance, as are all the old Hammerite actors. (and more of course)
skizatch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 29, 2004, 01:41 AM   #30
MikeEx
ಠ_ಠ
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: United States Buckeye, AZ
Posts: 1,686
MikeEx is still being judged by the masses


Default

yeah but theres some new guys

its good that benny is everywhere, he is the halflife's barny of thief
__________________
.
MikeEx is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Thief: Deadly Shadows Editor has been released Judas Front Page News 0 Feb 24, 2005 09:34 PM
Thief Deadly Shadows slow performance ? dumb1 PC Gaming 3 Jun 2, 2004 11:11 AM
Thief: Deadly Shadows Available May 26th!! STAT PC Gaming 5 Apr 30, 2004 09:29 PM
Thief3 = Thief: Deadly Shadows? jws PC Gaming 14 Jan 15, 2004 05:27 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:11 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
All trademarks used are properties of their respective owners. Copyright ©1998-2011 Rage3D.com
Links monetized by VigLink