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Old Sep 17, 2019, 01:48 PM   #1
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Doom 3 UFO videos are footage of real 'unidentified' objects, US Navy acknowledges

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For the first time, the U.S. Navy has acknowledged the three UFO videos that were released by former Blink-182 singer Tom DeLonge and published by the New York Times are of real "unidentified" objects.

“The Navy considers the phenomena contained/depicted in those three videos as unidentified," Navy spokesman Joseph Gradisher told The Black Vault, a website dedicated to declassified government documents.

Gardisher added that “the ‘Unidentified Aerial Phenomena’ terminology is used because it provides the basic descriptor for the sightings/observations of unauthorized/unidentified aircraft/objects that have been observed entering/operating in the airspace of various military-controlled training ranges.”

The statement has been corroborated with other media outlets. Fox News has reached out to the Navy for additional comment for this story.

The videos in question, known as "FLIR1,” “Gimbal” and “GoFast,” were originally released to the New York Times and to The Stars Academy of Arts & Science (TTSA). In December 2017, Fox News reported that the Pentagon had secretly set up a program to investigate UFOs at the request of former Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev.

In June 2019, Reid, now retired, expressed his desire for lawmakers to hold public hearings into what the military knows. "They would be surprised how the American public would accept it," he said during a wide-ranging interview with a Nevada radio station. "People from their individual states would accept it."

The first video of the unidentified object was taken on Nov. 14, 2004, and shot by the F-18's gun camera. The second video was taken on Jan. 21, 2015, and shows another aerial vehicle with pilots commenting on how strange it is. The third video was also taken on Jan. 21, 2015, but it is unclear whether the third video was of the same object or a different one.

John Greenewald, Jr., who publishes The Black Vault, told Motherboard he was surprised at the language the Navy used in its official statement.

“I very much expected that when the U.S. military addressed the videos, they would coincide with language we see on official documents that have now been released, and they would label them as ‘drones’ or ‘balloons,’” Greenwald told the news outlet. “However, they did not. They went on the record stating the ‘phenomena’ depicted in those videos, is ‘unidentified.’ That really made me surprised, intrigued, excited and motivated to push harder for the truth.”

Luis Elizondo, the former head of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), has previously said that people should pay attention to the comments the government is making about UFOs.

"What the pilots encountered that day was able to perform in ways that defied all logic and our current understanding of aerodynamics," Elizondo wrote in a Fox News op-ed of the 2004 encounter by U.S. Navy pilots who witnessed the object off the coast of San Diego. "Furthermore, beyond what the pilots saw with their own trained eye, the technological feat they encountered was further verified by the impressive Aegis SPY-1 radar, America’s premier radar system at the time, and even gun camera footage and sonar systems from submarines accompanying the carrier.

Earlier this year, the Navy issued new classified guidelines on how to report such instances “in response to unknown, advanced aircraft flying into or near Navy strike groups or other sensitive military facilities and formations.”

The Defense Department also briefed Senate Intelligence Committee Vice Chairman Mark Warner, D-Va., in June, along with two other senators, as part of what appeared to be heightened efforts to inform politicians about naval encounters with unidentified aircraft.

Warner's spokesperson indicated that the senator sought to probe safety concerns surrounding "unexplained interference" naval pilots faced, according to Politico. The outlet reported more briefings were being requested as news surfaced that the Navy revised its procedures for personnel reporting on unusual aircraft sightings.

President Trump said he has been briefed on Navy pilots' reported sightings of unidentified flying objects, but remained skeptical of the existence of UFOs. "I want them to think whatever they think," Trump told ABC News' George Stephanopolous earlier this year, referring to the Navy pilots. "I did have one very brief meeting on it. But people are saying they’re seeing UFOs. Do I believe it? Not particularly."

https://www.foxnews.com/tech/ufo-vid...y-acknowledges
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Old Sep 17, 2019, 01:59 PM   #2
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“I very much expected that when the U.S. military addressed the videos, they would coincide with language we see on official documents that have now been released, and they would label them as ‘drones’ or ‘balloons,’” Greenwald told the news outlet. “However, they did not. They went on the record stating the ‘phenomena’ depicted in those videos, is ‘unidentified.’ That really made me surprised, intrigued, excited and motivated to push harder for the truth.”
That really is the biggest takeaway from this. Its a huge progressive leap forward that a branch of the U.S. military is actually saying they are unidentified, rather than force feeding us another bullshit cover story. Good on them, but to be fair its getting harder to cover this stuff up. Between the officially released Navy footage from the DoD and credible testimony from the pilots its a pretty solid case. Also props to TTSA and NY Times for breaking these stories. They have managed to do what others over the past several decades could not, break this into the mainstream and move it out of the realm of ridicule and more towards serious acceptance.
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Old Sep 17, 2019, 02:05 PM   #3
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Unidentified does not equal "aliens" or anything extra terrestrial for that matter. It also still doesn't rule out internal secret government projects. If there is a paradigm shift in technology being worked on the by the Air Force for example, the Navy isn't going to know anything about it.
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So the navy admitted that if we can't identify something it's unidentified? And this is news?
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Old Sep 17, 2019, 03:04 PM   #5
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Only reason I know about it is because Tom Delonge is off his rocker on Rogan lol

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We just had this same thread a couple months ago. O_o
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Really wish they would release the more recent footage with better cameras. If these things show up regularly at navy/air force training then at some point they will have good footage.
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really hope the aliens enslave everyone.
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If aliens were indeed discovered and verified, wouldn't that disqualify a lot of religions as false like christianity and catholicism?
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I think arguments made would be that "Of course God wouldn't just put life on Earth, why else would he create an entire universe"
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And *POOF* we're in P&R territory now.

I'll save my response for when the thread gets moved.
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Unidentified does not equal "aliens" or anything extra terrestrial for that matter. It also still doesn't rule out internal secret government projects. If there is a paradigm shift in technology being worked on the by the Air Force for example, the Navy isn't going to know anything about it.
For the record no one here brought up "aliens" until you mentioned it.

As for your point, I did respond to that notion in the other thread. If this were the case, why would the Air Force be performing exercises with their super top secret craft in the same exact spot as Navy exercises? It doesn't make any logical sense and I don't believe you ever replied to that.

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So the navy admitted that if we can't identify something it's unidentified? And this is news?
Yes. Normally throughout history the U.S. government and branches of military DO NOT admit they cannot identify objects flying in our airspace. This is unprecedented.

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Really wish they would release the more recent footage with better cameras. If these things show up regularly at navy/air force training then at some point they will have good footage.
I do as well. Several of the Navy pilots and radar control guys disclosed that the actual videos are much longer than what was released to the public.
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Exactly. So are we going to get anywhere different than last time?
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Yeah the update about the Navy's announcement could have just gone into that thread.
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For the record no one here brought up "aliens" until you mentioned it.

Well let's be real, that's exactly what you and others were thinking. No need to be "politically correct" about it, it's not a secret that many in that other thread (and here) really do believe UFO's are aliens.





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As for your point, I did respond to that notion in the other thread. If this were the case, why would the Air Force be performing exercises with their super top secret craft in the same exact spot as Navy exercises? It doesn't make any logical sense and I don't believe you ever replied to that.
I did reply, I said it's not my job to answer for what the department does with their black box projects. But they do exist, and they do their testing and research in their own and outside airspace all the time. Why would this be any different? Maybe it was done on purpose? Who knows.... not my job to answer like I said.
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Well let's be real, that's exactly what you and others were thinking. No need to be "politically correct" about it, it's not a secret that many in that other thread (and here) really do believe UFO's are aliens.
Nope. I stated many times in the past UFOs are most likely secret black projects or naturally occuring phenomena that our level of science just doesn't yet understand. But until we do understand it I choose not to rule out the extreme possibilities. Nice straw man argument though.


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I did reply, I said it's not my job to answer for what the department does with their black box projects. But they do exist, and they do their testing and research in their own and outside airspace all the time. Why would this be any different? Maybe it was done on purpose? Who knows.... not my job to answer like I said.
But you supposedly pride yourself on logic and science and making sense. It does not make sense they would do that. However speculating they are doing it on purpose for some reason is at least something. I can also speculate as to why they might want to do that.
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So the navy admitted that if we can't identify something it's unidentified? And this is news?
It's not an Unidentified Flying Object, it's an Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon. Totally different.
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Right. Because UFOs could be aliens. UAPs could be "swamp gas from a weather balloon that was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus". (10 points for naming that movie)
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Right. Because UFOs could be aliens. UAPs could be "swamp gas from a weather balloon that was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus". (10 points for naming that movie)
Don't know the movie off the top of my head... very similar to one of my favorite X-Files episodes though, with Jesse Ventura playing one of the Men In Black intimidating a witness into believing the UFO was venus.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_C...om_Outer_Space

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In 1996, two strange MIBs (one who looked uncannily like Alex Trebek) appeared in Klass County, Washington, according to the reports of several people. They supposedly attempted to persuade Roky Crikenson that he did not see a UFO, claiming that it was the planet Venus.
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Old Sep 18, 2019, 03:25 PM   #23
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Don't know the movie off the top of my head... very similar to one of my favorite X-Files episodes though, with Jesse Ventura playing one of the Men In Black intimidating a witness into believing the UFO was venus.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_C...om_Outer_Space

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...B2&FORM=VDRVRV


https://x-files.fandom.com/wiki/Men_in_Black
In 1996, two strange MIBs (one who looked uncannily like Alex Trebek) appeared in Klass County, Washington, according to the reports of several people. They supposedly attempted to persuade Roky Crikenson that he did not see a UFO, claiming that it was the planet Venus.
Close. It was MIB.
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All right, Beatrice, there was no alien. The flash of light you saw in the sky was not a UFO. Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus.
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Just read this today:

Key point: Iran has encountered really strange flying objects that might be an unknown, secret American spy plane.

Iran is the only other country besides the United States to operate arguably history’s most powerful interceptor aircraft, the F-14 Tomcat. And the Islamic republic has worked the twin-engine, swing-wing fighters hard.

The F-14s played a major role in Iran’s war with Iraq from 1980 to 1988. Iranian Tomcat pilots were the only ones to successfully employ the F-14’s long-range, heavyweight AIM-54 Phoenix missile to shoot down enemy planes.

In the decades after the war, Tehran repaired and upgraded the surviving F-14s, scouring the globe for parts in defiance of a U.S. government embargo.

The Americans retired their F-14s in 2006, but around 40 of Iran’s Tomcats remain active. Their main role is defending Iran’s nuclear sites. It’s a mission that has brought the interceptors in close contact with some very mysterious aircraft, according to a bizarre and fascinating 2013 story in Combat Aircraft magazine by reporter Babak Taghvaee.

The Iranians believed the objects were spy drones belonging to the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, sent to sniff out Tehran’s suspected atomic weapons program. But they attribute to these alleged unmanned aerial vehicles flight characteristics and capabilities far beyond what any known drone can achieve.

And in 2012 one of the alleged flying robots reportedly also shot down an F-14 attempting to intercept it. Or at least some Iranians seem genuinely to believe so.

Over the decades Tehran has built three major nuclear facilities that could, in theory, be used to assemble atomic weapons: reactors at Bushehr and Arak and an enrichment plant at Natanz.

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I stated many times in the past UFOs are most likely secret black projects or naturally occuring phenomena that our level of science just doesn't yet understand.
naturally occurring phenomena... wtf, I don't think so...

when is the last time we discovered a new unexplained naturally occurring phenomena on earth?
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when is the last time we discovered a new unexplained naturally occurring phenomena on earth?
that's what science is for? everything is unexplained until it's discovered
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There can be only two options how to interpret those flying things:
Man made or extraterrestrial. If ET then probably automated drones scanning "nearby" star systems and not aliens as carbon based lifeforms.

What I always imagined in the back of my head that we humans very slowly make our way first to other planets and then maybe in hundreds of years to the closest stars. At that point our civilization has gone through so many "filters" and has progressed morally to the point that we are "worthy" to terraform and colonize other inhabited planets.
But if this kind of technology is already within our reach, it means that the universe is full of jerks or will be full of jerks.
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As for your point, I did respond to that notion in the other thread. If this were the case, why would the Air Force be performing exercises with their super top secret craft in the same exact spot as Navy exercises? It doesn't make any logical sense and I don't believe you ever replied to that.
Interservice rivalry. The USAF is just out there to piss off the Navy
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