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Old Nov 3, 2012, 06:03 AM   #1
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Default [Razer] Razer Synapse 2.0 Used For Always-On Data Mining

Another reason why razer is a piece of **** company.

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This really took me by surprise. Just bought a new Naga 2012 mouse, installed the software and get greeted by a login screen right after. No option to bypass it to use the software to configure the mouse, set the options, sensitivity, shortcuts, macros etc.

So I go ahead and create an account and try to log in. Nothing. Try several more times, and still nothing. Try to make new accounts with different email addresses and it still wont work.

Finally call Razer who tells me the activation server is down, and I wont be able to use the mouse until it goes back up and will only be able to use it as a standard plug and play mouse til then. I ask about a workaround to use the mouse offline and they say there is none. Supposedly once the mouse is activated on the computer offline mode will work, but it needs to upload my profile and activate my account first and since their server is down its not going to happen. I ask for a supervisor to confirm this is the case and ask again for a workaround to use it offline. He said sorry theres nothing they can do, tells me the call center is closing and hangs up on me.

Im pretty shocked Razer thought it was a good idea to do this to customers. Nowhere on the box does it say anything about needing an internet connection to "activate" a mouse. If the servers go down in the future, anyone who buys this mouse is out of luck.

Honestly the last time I buy a Razer product. Absolutely ridiculous.



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Thought I would clarify a few things since Ive been asked about this a lot.

Razer forces you to create an account with them before you can use the software with the mouse. You cant configure the mouse in any way until you make an account with them and activate your computer and account through their server. If they decide to take down their activation server for any reason, you will never be able to use the software. If you live somewhere without access to internet, you will not be able to activate and use the software. If you work somewhere that has a network behind firewalls, chances are even though you can download the Synapse software, the firewall may also block you from activating and using the software as well.

If your connection drops out for any reason, the Synapse software will make a habbit of locking up on you while it transitions to offline mode. During that time your settings may revert or possibly not be saved.

Yes, you can use the mouse as plug and play with basic functionality if you choose not to make an account and activate your computer, but who pays $80 for a basic plug and play mouse? The reason people buy the Naga 2012 is the configurable buttons and to change the DPI, polling rate, set up macros and profiles along with everything else. Razer has no right to lock this away from customers who paid for these features. For the Naga 2012 mouse, there is no other offline drivers to revert to. Synapse 2.0 is your only option.

Razers Synapse 2.0 software is always online. If you have an internet connection active, Razer will be constantly using it constantly downloading updates and interrupting your full screen applications. Not only that, as I suspected, the Synapse 2.0 software is spying on you
From the Razer Synapse TOS agreement:
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“User Generated Information” means any information made available to Razer through your use of the Software. Subject to the Privacy Policy mentioned above, you expressly grant Razer the complete and irrevocable right to use, reproduce, modify, create derivative works from, distribute, transmit, broadcast, and otherwise communicate, and publicly display and perform the User Generated Information and derivative works thereof in any form, anywhere, with or without attribution to you, and without any notice or compensation to you of any kind.

By using Razer Synapse 2.0 (“Synapse”), the Subscriber agrees that Razer may collect aggregate information, individual information, and personally identifiable information. Razer may share aggregate information and individual information with other parties. Razer shall not share personally identifiable information with other parties, except as described in the policy below.

http://www.razerzone.com/synapse2/subscriber-agreement
http://www.razerzone.com/synapse2/privacy-policy
http://www.overclock.net/t/1323093/r...on-data-mining

The Synapse 2.0 software was not created to benefit customers in any way. It was a ploy to get into your computer and watch what you do and profit off this info.
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Old Nov 3, 2012, 10:03 AM   #2
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Wow.

Thanks for the PSA though, I am sure anyone else looking into their products has been adequately forewarned.
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Old Nov 3, 2012, 10:06 AM   #3
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It's a good thing that Logitech has a Naga alternative.
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I stopped using razer products a while ago. Cheaply made and overpriced.
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I really love my deathadder, thankfully I can use the old normal driver. I hate that synapse garbage. It even has less features than the ancient deathadder drivers.
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Old Nov 3, 2012, 07:27 PM   #6
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I really love my deathadder, thankfully I can use the old normal driver. I hate that synapse garbage. It even has less features than the ancient deathadder drivers.
hmm i'm waiting on a windows 8 driver for a Razer Nostromo that I do like
but if they use this Synapse 2.0 I will toss it out
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Old Nov 5, 2012, 04:14 PM   #7
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I guess their cheaply built unreliable hardware, buggy drivers/firmware and poor customer service weren't enough to drive people away. Who comes up with this crap anyhow?
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Old Nov 5, 2012, 11:13 PM   #8
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I'm not using their razer software anymore since I got a new razer deathadder. just a generic driver.
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<sigh> and I was thinking of buying a Taipan. I guess I should go for the Steelseries Sensei instead?
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I havent looked at the newer Steelseries mice, but i do like the fact my Xai is fully configured through an onboard lcd rather than having to install drivers for it
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Loved my Deathadder, but until this gets fixed I won't be buying any more Razer devices. It's BS you have to activate a mouse to use it. Ridiculous.
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Loved my Deathadder, but until this gets fixed I won't be buying any more Razer devices. It's BS you have to activate a mouse to use it. Ridiculous.
Yeah, I have the deathadder mouse too.

You better to grab a deathadder driver 3.05 before they remove the razer drivers. I saved it to my hard drive, just in case...
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Funny I read this, I bought a Deathadder for work yesterday...

Not gonna install drivers for it, works fine as is

Lol I have the box in front of me : "Internet connection (for driver installation)" in the system requirements That's bullshit
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The mouse does not come with a driver disc??

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Go find and download a software crack for it, chances are you could find a pretty good third party program for it that works better then the original since the naga is a fairly popular mouse.
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Loved my Deathadder, but until this gets fixed I won't be buying any more Razer devices. It's BS you have to activate a mouse to use it. Ridiculous.
Hey, look! The new Deathadder has Synapse 2.0. Unfortuantelly I was correct in predicting that they would add Synapse to the newer Deathadders.


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They added it to the older deathadders too. The main reason that I actually don't use synapse is since there is no sensitivity setting like with the older deathadder drivers.
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