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Old Feb 27, 2015, 02:38 PM   #1
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Gg amd...oh hey look nvidia managed to release another driver today.

I am calling this right now. Even though AMD knows it has fixes in this upcoming driver, even though it has been months since the last driver. AMD will release the new drivers to the media first first so they can squeeze out whatever self promotion they can first. That is how AMD feels about their customers.

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Old Feb 27, 2015, 07:47 PM   #2
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It's funny how everybody use to moan about AMD having a new driver every month and how it was so much better that nVidia didn't...
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I prefer more regular driver releases because you can always go back to a previous one. Maybe they'll have a driver out for BF Hardline.

I don't mind a few months delay if they have something big planned.
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I heard they are doing is to added some new features, and of course including the crossfire profiles. I don't know if someone mentioned the CCC GUI will be redesigned. I actually really don't mind waiting a few months. Since they are probably working on a next driver that is going to have a lot of change logs. I'm completely satisfied with 14.12 driver for months and no problems.
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Wouldn't mind it at all if they would release the crossfire profiles. But they don't. So there is aboaluelty NO reason as an AMD crossfire user to buy any game within the first 2-3 months of release. If you were a gpu manufacturer is that what you would want to be known for? Buy our cards they keep you from buying new games, think of the money you will save! AMD the wait it's meant to be played!
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Gg amd...oh hey look nvidia managed to release another driver today.

I am calling this right now. Even though AMD knows it has fixes in this upcoming driver, even though it has been months since the last driver. AMD will release the new drivers to the media first first so they can squeeze out whatever self promotion they can first. That is how AMD feels about their customers.
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Thanks for trying to help (seriously I am not being a sarcastic jerk) but those don't have caps for what gets fixed in the next betas, and they are for windows 10.
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Those 15.2's count next to nothing from AMD.
Although I don't agree with pretty much anything he says and how he says it to the point I have the honor of being on his ignore list, this post says it all:

http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.ph...2&postcount=87

Just sayin' that Nvidia has released three drivers in one month, one of which on an AAA title release day, and one a hotfix.
Kinda makes me lol when I hear AMDMatt on guru3d saying they only want to release drivers when they are sure everything is perfect and meets highest standards. Then he says VSR implementation will happen in a next set of drivers.
It's either these people have lost total knowledge of how things work, or the company is in serious trouble. I'm afraid both.

ME: Sorry boss, gonna take another month to finish this assignement. Wanna make sure it's absolutely perfect.
BOSS: (silent, points at the door)

I'm really sad for this situation. If all of my titles don't run Crossfire perfectly wit the next Catalyst, I'm thinking I should give single NV GPU's a try.

And it's going to take me quite a while anyway before I have the cash to spare for one of their high-end cards.

My point is not to threaten or anything; it's just a sad consideration, really. And since they are the only competing GPU company, comparisons are totally inevitable.
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Those 15.2's count next to nothing from AMD.
Although I don't agree with pretty much anything he says and how he says it to the point I have the honor of being on his ignore list, this post says it all:

http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.ph...2&postcount=87

Just sayin' that Nvidia has released three drivers in one month, one of which on an AAA title release day, and one a hotfix.
Kinda makes me lol when I hear AMDMatt on guru3d saying they only want to release drivers when they are sure everything is perfect and meets highest standards. Then he says VSR implementation will happen in a next set of drivers.
It's either these people have lost total knowledge of how things work, or the company is in serious trouble. I'm afraid both.

ME: Sorry boss, gonna take another month to finish this assignement. Wanna make sure it's absolutely perfect.
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I'm really sad for this situation. If all of my titles don't run Crossfire perfectly wit the next Catalyst, I'm thinking I should give single NV GPU's a try.

And it's going to take me quite a while anyway before I have the cash to spare for one of their high-end cards.

My point is not to threaten or anything; it's just a sad consideration, really. And since they are the only competing GPU company, comparisons are totally inevitable.
because we all know they all won't run perfectly with SLI either
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and that's the reason I said "...I should give single NV GPU's a try."
You've even quoted it in bold!
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and that's the reason I said "...I should give single NV GPU's a try."
You've even quoted it in bold!
good luck with NVidia surround and with only a single 980, it can't do a single 1600p screen in new games
let alone 3 -1080p screens in NVidia surround


better off waiting for a single 390x, but i'll bet you will still need 2 cards

maybe a single titan 2 but that will most likely cost more than 2 390x's
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So far I've only used the three monitors for games that wouldn't require me to turn IQ down in order to achieve playable framerate, i.e. I've been playing with max settings FSX, Shift2, Alien Isolation and Elite: Dangerous. I doubt I would run into problems with these titles in surround gaming at 1080p.

Nevertheless, my future plan is a powerful single GPU with a 21:9 single screen (a curved monitor would be overkill), although it won't happen for a long time due to my bank account.
I have to remain an unsatisfied AMD customer for quite a while, I'm afraid, unless the company starts showing a little mor love. Which is what I obviously hope.
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Personally, I think AMD is timing the release of new drivers with that of the R390x card release....Just a thought.
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Of course they are, why waste a chance at self promotion. Heck it's only your customers who you are pooping on in the process. Maybe they will pull a mantle and just say you know what, no more drivers if you want drivers go nvidia.
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Hardline is coming out in a couple of weeks, AFAIK it is a gaming evolved title so there should be a driver ready for that one.
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Its frostbite, i doubt they need one (BF4, DAI, PVZ)
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They would at least need to put out an up to date crossfire profile.
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wtf AMD, seriously, WTF.

actually you know what, screw you, that's what.

depressing situation this is
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They dont even have a pciE 3.0 motherboard ffs
We are still using a 10 year old socket...

I think AMD is going tits up
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sabertooth 990fx/gen3 r2.0 should.

Other than that, I think AMD is going tits up too
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Return on equity has greatly decreased when compared to its ROE from the same quarter one year prior. This is a signal of major weakness within the corporation. Compared to other companies in the Semiconductors & Semiconductor Equipment industry and the overall market, ADVANCED MICRO DEVICES's return on equity significantly trails that of both the industry average and the S&P 500.

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I'd say bit-coin mining coming to an end would contribute to that.

The troubling thing for me is the lack of development.
I guess it don't help that Windows 8 was a lemon and Windows 10 sucks so bad they will pay you to use it.

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I guess fm2+ supports pciE 3.0
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guess it's going to take more than some dude removing driver's CPU bottleneck...
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like everybody suddenly went out to buy a freesync monitor. ridiculous.
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They really screwed the pooch with this driver release. There is a lot of pissed off vocal AMD owners. I doubt I will ever buy their garbage again when support is reliant on self promotion time and time again. AMD you want to know why your market share sucks? Because your customers are not your priority and they never come first.


March 19th... Effin ridiculous.
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It's funny how everybody use to moan about AMD having a new driver every month and how it was so much better that nVidia didn't...
I loved AMD's once-a-month-another WHQL driver release...it was a clear advantage over nVidia, and many more people felt as I did, that the Catalyst WHQL release policy (which nVidia couldn't match) was a good reason to buy AMD instead of nVidia--a concrete, demonstrable advantage. AMD can no longer tout that as an advantage for AMD gpus. I find that an amazing lack of judgement.

I speculated early on that the abandonment of the policy meant that the driver team was shrinking, unfortunately, but Wavey disabused me of that notion at the time, saying he had seen no diminution of resources for driver development at AMD. I responded with the obvious question: "OK, great, if that is so, why not reinstate the once-a-month WHQL schedule?" He didn't choose to answer.

The upshot is that the annual 2-4 WHQL release schedule was supposed to have improved driver development by allowing more development time between releases. But I don't think it has, personally. All that's happened is that it is taking AMD much, much longer to release a WHQL driver than it used to, and I've seen no improvement in quality that I can attribute to the new release schedule. (the drivers were good before--they are good now--but we just get a lot less of them.)

What is seems to boil down to is that there are fewer people doing the work than there were before (otherwise, why give away a clear advantage you have over a competitor?)

I have 100% confidence that *given the right resources* the Catalyst driver team could be as efficient and talented as it used to be and release a new WHQL driver once a month, again. After all, there isn't a month that goes by that new games are not shipped, so why not?

I don't buy nVidia because I consider their marketing and PR to be on the level of pre-teen children, full of bombastic exaggeration and hyperbole and very short on substance. AMD's marketing has always seemed, in counterpart, like adults marketing adult products to other adults--full of facts and figures but short on exaggeration and hyperbole. "Just the facts, Jack."

I hate to say it, but that's changing. Emulating nVidia will not help AMD any more so than emulating Apple will help Microsoft--AMD is a very, very different company from nVidia and has, since the ArtX acquisition, conducted itself professionally and astounded the gaming community with one huge advance after the next. That is in danger for reasons I cannot understand. When you hold a winning hand you do not fold just because your competitor is bluffing--you go ahead and play and let the cards fall where they may. AMD needs to get back to the basics of what makes it a better company than nVidia--seems as if the people at the top are pretty fuzzy on that these days.
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