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Old Oct 25, 2020, 08:09 PM   #1351
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You guys think amd is exclusively selling the top card 6900xt or whatever themselves to prevent scalping?
If AMD can make sure 1 credit card 1 address 1 card for everyone directly from their store then they could prevent scalpers I think. Big IF. Nobody will pay 2x for a scalped 6800xt if they can pay less to get a 6900xt directly from AMD. Less incentive for scalpers to buy everything up if they're only going to make $200 profit tops.

What do you all think?
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Old Oct 26, 2020, 09:06 AM   #1354
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Those that think AMD is going to sell their cards at near the same price point as NVidia need to stop and remind yourself of 1 thing, other than they will have a card that May be faster, or at the very least the same speed as Nvidia: Market Share! AMD only has 18% off the GPU Market, Because of this, AMD will still sell their cards at a much cheaper price than Nvidia until they gain a substantial amount of the Market. I suspect you won't see prices comparable to NVidia until they get nearer to 50% market Share. Having the fastest card out, if true, at this time by it's self, won't do that much for their market share. They have to keep prices lower for now. I may be wrong, but that is how I see it.
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Those that think AMD is going to sell their cards at near the same price point as NVidia need to stop and remind yourself of 1 thing, other than they will have a card that May be faster, or at the very least the same speed as Nvidia: Market Share! AMD only has 18% off the GPU Market, Because of this, AMD will still sell their cards at a much cheaper price than Nvidia until they gain a substantial amount of the Market. I suspect you won't see prices comparable to NVidia until they get nearer to 50% market Share. Having the fastest card out, if true won't do that. They have to keep prices lower for now. I may be wrong, but that is how I see it.
We'll know on Wed, finally.
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The amount of speculation (aka bullshit) in this thread is astounding. This post is also a drop in the same puddle.
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Even if AMD is on top with performance, they should still undercut Nvidia.

What makes a great card isn't so much it's performance, it's the price.

That way you make a good card, great and start climbing back that market share.
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They have to be careful because if their cards are more expensive than 3080 I'm not buying them full stop. I'll go with the 3080 thank you. Inferior RT and no DLSS no thank you AMD.

They only have 25% at best of the market they have to price their cards to grab market share. Simple economics and marketing TBH. If you're not a market leader you can't premium price your products otherwise you're screwed.
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AMD has a DLSS or whatever they call it coming if you want that sh*t


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speed maybe slower
or faster if they also use extra CPU cores to do some of it

and it would not be the first time the one coming out with a new tech second was better in some way

Well, I have no interest in having DLSS or RT. Who cares? I'll just stick to native res and use AA.


Just give me faster raw performance any day.
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Those that think AMD is going to sell their cards at near the same price point as NVidia need to stop and remind yourself of 1 thing, other than they will have a card that May be faster, or at the very least the same speed as Nvidia: Market Share! AMD only has 18% off the GPU Market, Because of this, AMD will still sell their cards at a much cheaper price than Nvidia until they gain a substantial amount of the Market. I suspect you won't see prices comparable to NVidia until they get nearer to 50% market Share. Having the fastest card out, if true, at this time by it's self, won't do that much for their market share. They have to keep prices lower for now. I may be wrong, but that is how I see it.
AMD hasn't exactly sold their cards cheap if I remember correctly, even though they were not close on performance. And the fact that there is such High demand right now for video cards it would be stupid for the share holders if they sell it more then $50 lower then Nvidia. And I'm not even sure they are going to do that since it looks like they are competitive. I believe Billy is going to keep his record of 100 percent wrong on price for 2020
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AMD hasn't exactly sold their cards cheap if I remember correctly, even though they were not close on performance. And the fact that there is such High demand right now for video cards it would be stupid for the share holders if they sell it more then $50 lower then Nvidia. And I'm not even sure they are going to do that since it looks like they are competitive. I believe Billy is going to keep his record of 100 percent wrong on price for 2020

yea i had no idea they would sell 3080's for 1800+ on ebay

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https://www.anandtech.com/show/2556/18

the gtx 280 was 650 at the time


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yea i had no idea they would sell 3080's for 1800+ on ebay

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they have done it before


https://www.anandtech.com/show/2556/18

the gtx 280 was 650 at the time


i don't think they will go that far
One of these days you might be right on price in 2020 Billy, but this isn't one of those days!
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One of these days you might be right on price in 2020 Billy, but this isn't one of those days!
Wed will tell all.

How many here think there'll be 6000 series products to buy on Wed?
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How many here think there'll be 6000 series products to buy on Wed?
most likely the 5th same as the Ryzen 5000's

full reviews in between
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How many here think there'll be 6000 series products to buy on Wed?
I doubt I'll get any video card red or green this year. If anything after the presentation they might say buy the Uber 6900xt directly from AMD.com starting Nov 5th. 6800xt & 6800 available starting Nov 22 or some stupid date when there are 2 in stock. Meaning Lisa Su lied and they aren't available before the consoles. Also AIB cards wide availability 2021. I'm.being realistic here. Not caring about F5 24/7 anymore.

Usually AMD lowballs the MSRP but I guarantee this time they will be within $50 of nvidia simply because they can .

Zen3 however I expect decent availability.

Or if you'd like here's my YouTuber opinion:
Well my one source keeps saying wide availability Nov 5th but this other source keeps screaming low availability until 2021...so.either way take this with a pinch of salt. My one source says 6800xt clearly beats 3080 but my other source says no only within spitting distance at best. Either way I would say in the general vicinity of the 3080. Now what I mean by that is some games it wins some games it loses but it's within +/-5%

I expect the Radeon 6800xt or whatever they chose to call it I've heard 6800 I've heard 6900xt 6900xtx 6800xtx... It will be priced around $450-550. But I do have another source that says within $50 of the 3080 so I cannot be sure. Either way it will be between $2 and $1999. Remember you heard it here first folks so smash that like button. I am not some kid living in his parents basement making stuff up for clicks and sponsors. I have real contacts and sources within these companies.
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most likely the 5th same as the Ryzen 5000's
You sure you don't want this one?

https://www.vortez.net/articles_page..._review,1.html
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Or if you'd like here's my YouTuber opinion:
Well my one source keeps saying wide availability Nov 5th but this other source keeps screaming low availability until 2021...so.either way take this with a pinch of salt. My one source says 6800xt clearly beats 3080 but my other source says no only within spitting distance at best. Either way I would say in the general vicinity of the 3080. Now what I mean by that is some games it wins some games it loses but it's within +/-5%

I expect the Radeon 6800xt or whatever they chose to call it I've heard 6800 I've heard 6900xt 6900xtx 6800xtx... It will be priced around $450-550. But I do have another source that says within $50 of the 3080 so I cannot be sure. Either way it will be between $2 and $1999. Remember you heard it here first folks so smash that like button. I am not some kid living in his parents basement making stuff up for clicks and sponsors. I have real contacts and sources within these companies.
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I doubt I'll get any video card red or green this year. If anything after the presentation they might say buy the Uber 6900xt directly from AMD.com starting Nov 5th. 6800xt & 6800 available starting Nov 22 or some stupid date when there are 2 in stock. Meaning Lisa Su lied and they aren't available before the consoles. Also AIB cards wide availability 2021. I'm.being realistic here. Not caring about F5 24/7 anymore.

Usually AMD lowballs the MSRP but I guarantee this time they will be within $50 of nvidia simply because they can .

Zen3 however I expect decent availability.

Or if you'd like here's my YouTuber opinion:
Well my one source keeps saying wide availability Nov 5th but this other source keeps screaming low availability until 2021...so.either way take this with a pinch of salt. My one source says 6800xt clearly beats 3080 but my other source says no only within spitting distance at best. Either way I would say in the general vicinity of the 3080. Now what I mean by that is some games it wins some games it loses but it's within +/-5%

I expect the Radeon 6800xt or whatever they chose to call it I've heard 6800 I've heard 6900xt 6900xtx 6800xtx... It will be priced around $450-550. But I do have another source that says within $50 of the 3080 so I cannot be sure. Either way it will be between $2 and $1999. Remember you heard it here first folks so smash that like button. I am not some kid living in his parents basement making stuff up for clicks and sponsors. I have real contacts and sources within these companies.
This sounds alot like MLid! I got it right folks, I don’t know what the F you all are talking about!
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now a 6900 XT yes if the 6800 XT is faster than a 3080 or same speed
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Old Oct 26, 2020, 03:24 PM   #1372
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Old Oct 26, 2020, 03:38 PM   #1373
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so same or faster in all 8 even at 4k
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Old Oct 26, 2020, 03:41 PM   #1374
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Seems like it.
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Old Oct 26, 2020, 03:43 PM   #1375
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That's very impressive, can't wait until Wed.
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That's very impressive, can't wait until Wed.
can't wait until Wed to see the 6900 xt

and it's price
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Right!
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Virtually identical in *every* game within margin of error? Also he didnt bother to test RT?

I think this channel is shens.
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Of course it's shens.

Does anyone honestly believe some bloke got his hands on this card already?

Click bait money.
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bugger the Queen

proper English is only good on a cue ball
I think your first comment is a capital crime in the UK where you'll be hung, drawn & quartered and then made to play games in 4K on a Radeon 480

Secondly, don't understand the comment about the cue ball. Am I missing something?
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