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Old Apr 17, 2019, 12:18 PM   #151
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Ya GB's smaller bios chip being an issue. You'd think they wouldnt have skimped on that. I paid 400$ CAD for the gaming K7 x370 so if it doesnt support the 16 core Ill be pretty disappointed.
That's what GB does. They cut corners where possible so they can offer more features than the competition at every price point. I'd rather have appropriately sized BIOS chips than an array of unicorn barf generators.
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Ehh...how often does a larger BIOS chip really come into play? Honestly, that wouldn't be high on my list of features.

In any case, small BIOS chips was the least of the problems with Gigabyte's Ryzen motherboards. The fact I had to pull the battery on literally a weekly basis due to the soft brick bug on my board was far more obnoxious. I finally just gave that board away to a friend and replaced it with an Asus.
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Old Apr 18, 2019, 01:54 AM   #153
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Old Apr 18, 2019, 09:49 PM   #154
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Yeah, I'm not waiting another year.

I'm getting stuff now for the build. So far I've purchased a m.2 ssd, a psu, and I'm holding off on the RAM for now seeing if the prices fall anymore. I also want to see what the ram specs and requirements are going to look like on the new motherboard.

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someone in china (as usual) has early samples and is playing around with them

https://www.chiphell.com/thread-1984771-1-1.html

These are 3200G, he also claims to have ryzen 3xxx stuff but the current bios or something on existing motherboards cause problems.
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Old Apr 19, 2019, 10:48 PM   #156
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That's what GB does. They cut corners where possible so they can offer more features than the competition at every price point. I'd rather have appropriately sized BIOS chips than an array of unicorn barf generators.
Some good news apparently the F30 bios with new cpu support is only leaving some apu support behind to make room. Mind you the beta bios has 120 ohm settings that seem a tad high...


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Can someone with this motherboard install F30, download Ryzen Timing Checker and check CKEDrvStr, CLKDrvStr, AddrCmdDrvStr and CsOdtDrvStr?



1 day ago I asked Gigabyte's tech support to test a beta for the AB350 Gaming 3 and they sent me the F30d and values like CKEDrvStr, CLKDrvStr, AddrCmdDrvStr and CsOdtDrvStr to be at 120ohm, that is way too high and can cause chip degradation, I wonder if F30 for the Gaming 5 has the same issue...



If Gigabyte Team did the same mistake someone could seriously damage his own hardware trying those 3XXX gen Bios.



XMP was surprisingly stable but I think they are trying to trade system stability with high Ω , regardless of the type of OC used, the value of 120 Ω was reported on every kind of RAM configuration in stock, manual OC and XMP ON.



Even manually changing to 20 Ω , 24 Ω and 30 Ω doesn't work because the value of 120 Ω is still reported after booting.
Eep! My guinea pig days are over for this mobo.

Not gonna play lemming with this beta. Let the boys at GB blow a few mobos while they figure this out for us.
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Old Apr 22, 2019, 06:57 PM   #158
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Wow. Intel is at 35% yield for their 28 core chips.
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A large number of those duds can be salvaged by disabling cores/cache/memory controllers and sold as lower-tiered Xeons.
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A large number of those duds can be salvaged by disabling cores/cache/memory controllers and sold as lower-tiered Xeons.

so can some of zen 2 much fewer duds i'm sure
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Intel's roadmap up to like 2022? has leaked apparently

14nm for most of it
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I read somewhere that intel was talking to samsung for their 7nm process. Not sure if it was for licensing or having them fab their cpus...
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It was for their GPUs.
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It was for their GPUs.
Wouldnt it be crazy for them to sell their 7nm gpus alongside a 14 nm cpu?...


But ya itd be a kick in the corporate ego to see them move some cpu production to an ersthwhile competitor.
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I'm itching to finally upgrade from my i5 2500k and contemplating switching to AMD. My last AMD processor was an Opteron 165 eons ago, lol... I'm going to hold off a little longer to see how the new Ryzen 3000 series looks.
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I was going to pull the trigger on a 9900k. I got let down by intel and waited it out for the new Ryzens.

At this point, I think that the intel offers aren't going to be worth a snot. The shortages and the high heat issues are killing them.

I was going to wait it out and see the reviews but at this point I'm really contemplating just being the early adapter and getting the 3850x as soon as they come available.
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I was going to pull the trigger on a 9900k. I got let down by intel and waited it out for the new Ryzens.

At this point, I think that the intel offers aren't going to be worth a snot. The shortages and the high heat issues are killing them.

I was going to wait it out and see the reviews but at this point I'm really contemplating just being the early adapter and getting the 3850x as soon as they come available.
Go TR4. lol. I actually like the TR4 platform. It'll eventually get the 64-core lineup I am sure.
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Go TR4. lol. I actually like the TR4 platform. It'll eventually get the 64-core lineup I am sure.
Threadripper is great, but not for gaming. If it's a workstation, hell yes!

I can't wait for the freaking Ryzen 3 release. I'm ready to upgrade!!!
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Go TR4. lol. I actually like the TR4 platform. It'll eventually get the 64-core lineup I am sure.
I game and goof on the computer. If I were seriously into video editing or AI programming then I would. For me though, the 3850x is almost overkill.
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Yeah, 15% IPC and 4.5 GHz makes it sound like they'll still be behind Intel. Not as much as before--IPC might be about equal--but clock speed will still be about 500 MHz below an overclocked i7.

That being said, with XFR, AMD seems to have managed to grab most of the available overclocking headroom, so if it's released at "up to 4.5 GHz", then I'm guessing that's all you really get.
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These were test samples, not final product.
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Old Apr 29, 2019, 08:35 PM   #177
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I read that as well. Some are saying that the final product will be faster and that the 3850x still looks to be in the 5.1 GHz range.
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Ya makes no sense that the boost clock would be just 200 mhz more than the 2700x... the 8 and 16 core will do 5 ghz boost Im sure of it. Maybe just one or 2 core at a time but still. Its not exactly that much more than the 4.3 of the 2700x
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