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Old Dec 4, 2018, 10:19 PM   #61
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Really hope we dont need a new mobo. I mean I dont see why a high end x370-470 cant run a 135w tdp...

I want a 5ghz cpu that beats intel. But my x370 mobo is barely over a year old.
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Old Dec 4, 2018, 10:39 PM   #62
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Sadly no rumor for ddr5 support other than that if ryzen 3000 can have at least skylake performance per clock in gaming then I'd pick the 3700x.

But I also have one concern, isn't 7 nm is close to "breaking the law of physics" for cpu? What kinda bug can appear in the future?
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Really hope we dont need a new mobo. I mean I dont see why a high end x370-470 cant run a 135w tdp...

I want a 5ghz cpu that beats intel. But my x370 mobo is barely over a year old.
don't think you will just a bios update

I have a C6H and they have never fixed it's cold boot bug fully
only hits about once or twice a month but bugs me that it still does it at all

so I want a new x570 MB with PCIE 4.0 and anything else new they may add

maybe not asus this time but my zenith extreme is fine
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Those numbers seem too good to be true, but if they are...
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true or not it is very warm at intel headquarters with everyone hair on fire and clocking burning comet high enough to beat this

maybe they will do the 10 core review on LN2 this time
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I would be happy with a 8c /16t 4.3 base 4.8 boost. Lets try and keep some reality checks. All the hype train does is get peoples hopes up and then they get pissed off when its not the exact specs that are leaked.
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Id grab a quick and dirty 8 core if it could clock as well as the 16 rumored here... I think the 16 would need a game mode software like they have for Threadripper and its 24-32 core versions due to the dual channel ram only. So overkill for average gamer users. 12-16 is more intro new low end workstation.

In anycase the price is insanely low so itd be hard to resist.

Note to amd guys dont up the price just cuz I said that...
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Holy carp! Man do I feel good about my move to AMD.

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That is most certainly fud. There’s no way they’re selling a 12c/24thread chip for $299. The clock speeds are also absurd. I understand moving to TSMC will help but those increases are nuts.

If it’s true, then yep, RIP Intel, but I’d keep a lot of salt ready for this one.
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its not even a wccf leak its an adoredtv leak which id argue is almost even worse.
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well that rag Forbes is running with it also


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You can see more in the table above, which as usual with leaks this early on before the expected launch next year, should be taken with a sizeable pinch of salt. However, we knew core count increases with Ryzen were extremely likely given what AMD has already done with 7nm EPYC 2 and with Intel's Core i9-9900K currently dominating the mainstream, AMD would have needed at least 12-core CPUs to overtake it, and likely more to deal with a supposed 10-core Intel mainstream CPU, which has been rumored. Using its chiplet design to allow for two 8-core dies to be placed side-by-side could allow AMD to offer up to 16 cores, which would not just overtake the Core i9-9900K in multi-threaded workloads, but would likely see off a bunch of cheaper high-end desktop CPUs too.

We were expecting higher frequencies with Zen 2, and the 5.1GHz supposedly on offer with the Ryzen 9 3850X would offer a sizeable boost to lightly-threaded performance as well, which is an area Intel still enjoys an advantage, albeit one that has already shrunk thanks to improvements with AMD's 2nd generation Ryzen CPUs. Even if a half of what the leaked information reveals is true, AMD is looking set to have a very strong 2019 and Intel's Core i9-9900K - currently the fastest desktop CPU by a long way - will seem like a distant memory. I'll be covering all the latest AMD and Intel news so be sure to follow me on the usual outlets below.
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AMD Ryzen 7 3700X, 3700 – 12 Cores, Upto 5.0 GHz & $329

In the high-end segment we’re looking at two new Ryzen 7 parts, both of which are CPU only products. This is because the company is said to be leveraging similar chiplet design to what we’ve already seen with its upcoming EPYC 2 server parts.

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In this case utilizing two Zen 2 dies to make a high core count product. Both chips feature 12 cores and 24 execution threads. The Ryzen 7 3700X is rated at 105W whilst the 3700 is rated at a slightly more tame 95W.
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if it is two 6 core chips

I could see at 7nm it would be much cheaper to make and a lot less bad chips using two very small chiplets

and spreading out the heat so maybe higher clocks


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anyway i'm sure this has Intel buying a ton of Imodium

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Hmm Derbauer almost gave up some info on ryzen 3000. He did say he expects 10% clock speed improvement but 5 ghz doable with proper cooling. Knowing him itll be water at least. He spoke of it as base clock 5ghz which makes no sense. Has to be boost clocks.

But then the video suddenly bleeps and speeds up like he had to kill something due to NDA...

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I'm moving over to amd if it can do 5ghz on water.
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Sadly no rumor for ddr5 support other than that if ryzen 3000 can have at least skylake performance per clock in gaming then I'd pick the 3700x.
Indeed, I'm temporarily using the onboard graphics on my R3 2200g, and just for curiosity's sake I tried out the most graphically demanding AAA game I have (AC Origins) and the difference between single channel and dual channel is pretty big. 720p low settings, single 8gig runs around 23fps, while dual channel 16 gets 36fps. If the 3000 series intends to add more shader cores, I don't know how they'll perform any better without more bandwidth. Of course, given the prices of ddr4, I can only wonder what ddr5 would cost.

This could also be taken as a word of warning to anyone buying oem ryzen products, to make sure the ram isn't soldered in as single channel.
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I am highly skeptical of these increases in the number of cores. What exactly can most people do with these core counts? Why not use that silicon/heat budget for single threaded performance?
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I think they can do a bit of both. The goal should be clock speed parity first tho. IPC is already close and pretty sure they match it or within a couple % points. Third would be power reduction but I wouldnt be surprised if they skipped that for high performance pc parts. We'll see same tdp for better perf.

AMD plainly stated 1.25x at 7nm over previous gen. Id split that between clock and ipc.
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Going to be watching this some more through CES and the coming months. Been wanting to build a new machine for awhile now.

Last AMD was a Phenom II 955. Did have a Thunderbird 1GHz that I was able to get to 1.4GHz. That was a fun overclock.
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The resulting changes have reinvigorated the processor landscape, and now we enjoy the benefits of faster and cheaper processors across the board. But the fight has only just begun, and the coming year presents the possibility of even more drastic changes as Intel cedes the process leadership position to AMD. As a result, 2019 is sure to be a year of even more explosive changes, let's take a look at what we expect to see.

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I call BS on their excuse to why Intel is having a shortage, due to the "high demand.". They are having yield issues, plain and simple.
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I call BS on their excuse to why Intel is having a shortage, due to the "high demand.". They are having yield issues, plain and simple.
we must allow Intel to save face ……

……. So AMD can sit on it
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I'm waiting for that keynote!

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I'm sitting here with a delicious cup of coffee, eagerly awaiting Lisa Su to dick punch Intel in a few hours.
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Supposedly Su will talk about 7nm but nothing is being announced today.

Rumor is the announcement won't come until Q2 2019 for Zen2.

The only thing that may be announced today is a Vega/Navi 7nm which both wil be bleh.
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Supposedly Su will talk about 7nm but nothing is being announced today.

Rumor is the announcement won't come until Q2 2019 for Zen2.

The only thing that may be announced today is a Vega/Navi 7nm which both wil be bleh.
I don't think that is correct, I believe Q2 is when it is supposed to be released, not announced.
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